05 C230 sedan or Acura TL
08-25-2004, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
The thing you have to remember is that, like in the comercial, on the Porsche.there is no compromise!!!!
What I mean is that the M3 is by comparison a souped up grocery-getter(i hate to say it because I love the car too) Literally, it is a car that is designed to be a basic 4 seater, front engine, nice handling grocery-getter - that someone has gone to town on, and turned into a mean street machine.
If you had to pick the optimal configuration to run on a track, you would logically select the Porsche over the M3. On the track - fast in corners is where is counts.
It isn't a V6, it is a flat 6. Better still!!!
The center of gravity on the Boxter is probably about a good foot lower than the M3.
Boxter-s starts at $52K US vs the M3 Convert. starting at $57KUS.
The 0 to 60 on the M3 Conv. is 5.4 vs 5.7 on the Porsche.
The top speed on the M3 conv is 155 vs 165 on the Porsche.
Also, if you buy a Porsche, in 20 years it is a member of the family and not just a old BMW.
To me , seems the Boxter is the way to go. Buy it, be happy, thrash it every weekend, and give it to someone in 20 years.
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What I mean is that the M3 is by comparison a souped up grocery-getter(i hate to say it because I love the car too) Literally, it is a car that is designed to be a basic 4 seater, front engine, nice handling grocery-getter - that someone has gone to town on, and turned into a mean street machine.
If you had to pick the optimal configuration to run on a track, you would logically select the Porsche over the M3. On the track - fast in corners is where is counts.
It isn't a V6, it is a flat 6. Better still!!!
The center of gravity on the Boxter is probably about a good foot lower than the M3.
Boxter-s starts at $52K US vs the M3 Convert. starting at $57KUS.
The 0 to 60 on the M3 Conv. is 5.4 vs 5.7 on the Porsche.
The top speed on the M3 conv is 155 vs 165 on the Porsche.
Also, if you buy a Porsche, in 20 years it is a member of the family and not just a old BMW.
To me , seems the Boxter is the way to go. Buy it, be happy, thrash it every weekend, and give it to someone in 20 years.
Ed.
boxster-s is $52k US base, slk350 will be ~45k US base
boxster-s is 258 hp, 229 torque 3.2L, slk350 is 268 hp, 258 torque 3.5L
boxster-s is 0-60 in 5.7 sec, slk350 is 0-60 in 5.4 sec
boxster-s is softtop, slk350 is electronic hardtop
we'll just have to see how well the slk will handle compared to the porsche, although i will bet it'll be a damn good handler, esp. from what i've read about it thus far - it's for sure far better than the z4.
08-26-2004, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by prodigy1387
now though, i'd get the '05 slk350 (well i am, but whatev) over the boxster-s.
porsche will need to re-design the boxster pretty soon to stay on top of the competitions.
08-26-2004, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
The thing you have to remember is that, like in the comercial, on the Porsche.there is no compromise!!!!
Originally Posted by fasteddie
If you had to pick the optimal configuration to run on a track, you would logically select the Porsche over the M3. On the track - fast in corners is where is counts.
Originally Posted by fasteddie
Boxter-s starts at $52K US vs the M3 Convert. starting at $57KUS.
Originally Posted by fasteddie
Also, if you buy a Porsche, in 20 years it is a member of the family and not just a old BMW.
08-26-2004, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tandrek
That's fine, but the competition in this thread (Acura TL) still blows it away with 0-60 times in the mid-low 6's and 1/4 mile in the mid-high 14's. If you're not pushing superiority in performance, why bring it up?
I still think that when you add the good performance into the mix of other benefits (RWD, lower price, overall quality, steering feel, appearance), the C230 is the better deal. Of course, that's the great thing about the free market, people are free to disagree and buy what they wish.
08-26-2004, 03:22 PM
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hehe. I think the reason the C230 is cooler than the TL because there are more people driving the TL. If people started buying the C230 in dove and there were C230 all over roads, the C230 would not be cool anymore. Just my opinion.
08-26-2004, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mick1
hehe. I think the reason the C230 is cooler than the TL because there are more people driving the TL. If people started buying the C230 in dove and there were C230 all over roads, the C230 would not be cool anymore. Just my opinion.
08-29-2004, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tandrek
Around here, there are 10 C230's for every Acura TL, IMO.
Well, you must live in a good neighborhood, where most people are well educated, smart, and sexy.
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08-29-2004, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
Well, you must live in a good neighborhood, where most people are well educated, smart, and sexy.
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09-17-2004, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Saprissa
TL vs C230
just get the best of both...
a C320
just get the best of both...
a C320
09-17-2004, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wblynch
Go find you a 10 year old Mercedes C-class and a 10 year old Acura and look at them real close.
NOW, which one would you really rather have?
Japanese cars don't age too well.
NOW, which one would you really rather have?
Japanese cars don't age too well.
09-18-2004, 12:24 AM
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1959 220S / 1979 230 G / 2002 A210 AMG / 2003 C320 SC / 2004.5 C320 SS / 2005 ML350 SE / 2008 smart
oh God !!!
why is this thread back ?????
someone make it go away ! My head hurts
why is this thread back ?????
someone make it go away ! My head hurts
09-18-2004, 12:38 AM
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For the price of a brand new Acura TSX, one can buy a 1994 E500 in mint condition and low mileage.... Of course, that is, one can even find one up for sale... LOL.. 
And I would definitely pick E500 over TSX, or TL for that matters.... 
And I would definitely pick E500 over TSX, or TL for that matters....
09-18-2004, 11:50 AM
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................ Bell Helicopter & '05 C230 SS
Originally Posted by goldenbuddha
The Acura TL has the 270 HP motor, and that super fancy REAL surround sound audio system, which has won rave reviews. 
09-18-2004, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AKRY
For the price of a brand new Acura TSX, one can buy a 1994 E500 in mint condition and low mileage.... Of course, that is, one can even find one up for sale... LOL.. And I would definitely pick E500 over TSX, or TL for that matters....
And I would definitely pick E500 over TSX, or TL for that matters....
09-19-2004, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Alias
No, but which would will be more reliable? Which one will cost you more to repair and maintain?
09-19-2004, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wblynch
By my experience and observation, any 10 year old Japanese car is held together by dust and rust.
09-19-2004, 01:46 AM
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i like mercedes-benz but, if i had to choose between a 10-year old mercedes-benz and a brand new japanese car, I would choose the brand new japanese car. My bmw is five years old and is still in pretty good shape but i don't like it anymore because it's a five year old car.
09-19-2004, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mick1
i like mercedes-benz but, if i had to choose between a 10-year old mercedes-benz and a brand new japanese car, I would choose the brand new japanese car. My bmw is five years old and is still in pretty good shape but i don't like it anymore because it's a five year old car.
BTW, I can't believe this thread is still alive and well.
09-19-2004, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jinijazz
I can't believe this thread is still alive and well.
Some people started posting here, not knowing what it was!!
And we'll continue posting here forever, just because!!
This is the thread that never ends... yes, it goes on and on my friends!!
Some people started posting here, not knowing what it was!!
And we'll continue posting here forever, just because!!
This is the thread that never ends... yes, it goes on and on my friends!!
Some people started posting here, not knowing what it was!!
And we'll continue posting here forever, just because!!
This is the thread that never ends... yes, it goes on and on my friends!!
Some people started posting here, not knowing what it was!!
And we'll continue posting here forever, just because!!
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09-23-2004, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Alias
Price difference of over $8000 if you price a C320 with the same options which are standard on the Acura TL. I would rather have an Acura TL with $8000 cash in the glove compartment than a C320. In my opinion, the most common reason for purchasing the C230K over the Acura TL is the Mercedes Badge.
Depends do you want quality, or just a gussied up tin can POS FWD.
Look closely at the Acura.....if you can't tell the differences in design & build, then go for it. Drive it proudly.....with your BIC pen in shirt, and your Timex on your wrist.
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09-23-2004, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
Depends do you want quality, or just a gussied up tin can POS FWD.
Look closely at the Acura.....if you can't tell the differences in design & build, then go for it. Drive it proudly.....with your BIC pen in shirt, and your Timex on your wrist.
Ed.
Look closely at the Acura.....if you can't tell the differences in design & build, then go for it. Drive it proudly.....with your BIC pen in shirt, and your Timex on your wrist.
Ed.
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Originally Posted by fasteddie
Look closely at the Acura.....if you can't tell the differences in design & build, then go for it. Drive it proudly.....with your BIC pen in shirt, and your Timex on your wrist.
