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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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POWERCHIP THEN ADDED K&N'S

Anyone have there powerchip set up for an intake and add K&N filters?
mine was set up for an intake and i ordered K&N's want to know if there was a noticiable difference when they added the filters..
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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How do you like the Powerchip and the pullies? I want to get those two mods.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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love them

the powerchip was noticable off the line and jump 2nd gear much improved and if you spend time in 4th theres a big difference..
the pullies eliminated the 3rd gear lag when you shift into 3rd it feels like the car dont wanna go anywhere without the pullies with them its like a seemless pull through every gear..
the pullies are more bang for the buck then the chip in my honest opinion.. but that could be the combination of the 2 making me think the pullies made more of a difference since i did the chip then the pullies... all in all i had no problems with both and they are great..
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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hmm, thanks for all the info c Klass 320.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by C klass 320
the powerchip was noticable off the line and jump 2nd gear much improved and if you spend time in 4th theres a big difference..
the pullies eliminated the 3rd gear lag when you shift into 3rd it feels like the car dont wanna go anywhere without the pullies with them its like a seemless pull through every gear..
the pullies are more bang for the buck then the chip in my honest opinion.. but that could be the combination of the 2 making me think the pullies made more of a difference since i did the chip then the pullies... all in all i had no problems with both and they are great..
May I know what kind of pulley system you installed? I'm also considering a similar [setup] with the Evosport UDPS, Kleemann chip, and BMC filters.

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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Has anyone dynoed these mods? I've been looking at adding a chip and pulley to my 2004 c320 - but after reading a bunch of posts, I've only seen "feeling" results but not specific dyno measurements. Also, if you don't mind me asking - how much did you end up paying for the pulley and chip? How many torque gains are you seeing? (not what is marketing number spin)

Also, any idea of how to hold the automatic shift points? I don't want the car to switch to 3rd before reaching 60mph - is there a computer mod for that or is that built into the tranny??

thnks
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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I don't want to be a show stopper, but better be careful about the K&N and so called powerchip. Not to mention the emmision hassle later on, I actually saw many people suffered nasty problems. But again, I don't know much about MB(1 week ownership of 05 c230K SS) related issues, but it's basically no no in Porsche community. FYI of course.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dc2774
Has anyone dynoed these mods? I've been looking at adding a chip and pulley to my 2004 c320 - but after reading a bunch of posts, I've only seen "feeling" results but not specific dyno measurements. Also, if you don't mind me asking - how much did you end up paying for the pulley and chip? How many torque gains are you seeing? (not what is marketing number spin)

Also, any idea of how to hold the automatic shift points? I don't want the car to switch to 3rd before reaching 60mph - is there a computer mod for that or is that built into the tranny??

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I think it's the inherent char of the tranny.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:45 PM
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Are you running a higher octane than 91? The reason I ask is that in CA, there is no octane higher than 91.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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I'm in Wisconsin and I'm running 93
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jinijazz
I don't want to be a show stopper, but better be careful about the K&N and so called powerchip. Not to mention the emmision hassle later on, I actually saw many people suffered nasty problems. But again, I don't know much about MB(1 week ownership of 05 c230K SS) related issues, but it's basically no no in Porsche community. FYI of course.
i agree. id be cautious!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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im running 93 octane.. havent had a problem with any of the products ever chip was installed at 1000 miles and pullies at 7500 i have 9000 now

the pullies are the evo underdrive pullies i paid 379 for them..
i have yet to dyno the car but it wouldnt make much sense anyway since i didnt dyno it before hand... however i would love to set up a track day at english town with some other c320 and if possible a 4-matic and see the diffence in our times anyone interested??

K&N's will be installed later today.. they say these filters have too much oil and when i called K&N they said to just to wrap the filters in paper towels and shake the excess oil onto them and they will work flawless...

my service advisor said these things are commonly put in cars especially with people my age so he said if anything goes wrong theyll deal with it dont worrie about it..

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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jinijazz
I don't want to be a show stopper, but better be careful about the K&N and so called powerchip. Not to mention the emmision hassle later on, I actually saw many people suffered nasty problems. But again, I don't know much about MB(1 week ownership of 05 c230K SS) related issues, but it's basically no no in Porsche community. FYI of course.
Have a read of some of the old threads on the aftermarket filters...there were some intial concerns but over the last few years no one has reported any problems. Many of the members here have either bought K&N or ITG. With respect to the chip...only a few have started doing this mod so that is still a bit of an unknown...but to me it still does not appear to be worth it.

C klass 320, how do you like the evosport pullies...I tried to email them but they did not reply...stupid slackasses - you'd think they would want to make a sale!!
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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pullies

pullies are awesome the car runs the exact same way it was as if it were stock just now you have some more power.. if you know your cars deadspots this makes those deadspots alot harder to notice, all of your power spots will feel a little bit better but i feel these pullies helped 3rd gear the most even thou they are noticable off the line and 2nd, 3rd gear is a lot stronger now. car also drives smoother, they should have did this from the factory..
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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Are you running a higher octane than 91? The reason I ask is that in CA, there is no octane higher than 91.
I'm from the south bay area... there is a 76 union gas station that has 100 octane racing fuel.. I got some a while back and it's about $4/gallon.. it's a difference I tell you... but it's a pricey one. I ran about 10 gallons on my tank It's location address is 3010 ALMADEN EXPRESSWAY, San Jose. It's at the corner of Almaden Exp and Foxworthy. It's recommendation is for engines that have a compression ratio of 10:1 or greater...
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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race fuel

watch out using race fuel..
my friends Grand Prix GTP O2 sensors went every 3rd & 4th time he would use race fuel... not sure if it was the race gas or not but an admired mechanic we know said it has something to do with it
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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The regular fuel sold in Hong Kong has an octane rating of higher than 95 and the vehicles are running just fine.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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dont know much about this was just passing along info i had

are those vehicles made just for that octane rating?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Don't think so, the MBs we have in Hong Kong are the same as European specs.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:18 PM
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wonder how much performance difference there is?
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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OK so i intalled the K&N's yesterday at around 6:00pm..
very easy install by the way.. anyway when i started up the car for the first time i was waiting to hear a difference maybe even a little but nothing... i understand the computer needs about 100 miles to notice something and make full use of it but when you install something you want immediate results.. anyway went for a test drive the only thing that felt different was the car felt smoother not really a difference in acceleration...

i had a few things to do so i just ignored that there was no difference and went on with my day.. at about 9:00 the car started picking up completely different i had drove to rockaway parkway and back from marine park and had stoped to get pizza with friends on flatbush avenue.. after we got pizza 9:00 and i restarted the car it was different.. not soo much in sound till you were on the gas theres a slight difference but wow was my car picking up nice.. i reccomend this 75$ upgrade to anyone that has a chip to make full use of it and have your chip programed for this.. the best part of the night was rolling up to a 528 bmw silver with a Ac snitzer roof spoiler and rear spoiler nice car.. we raced at a light after messing around for a block or too and it was NO CONTEST i mean i completely left this car behind.. at the next light he says i need to upgrade my car i said You need to upgrade to a benz in a joking matter, not ment seriously and he laughed and we went about our buisness..
anyone looking to do these 3 upgrades and has a 320 id be glad to show you the car and take you for a ride to see if this is noticable performance that you would like to do to your own 320..
Note : K&n's have improved shifting into everygear better snap and run.. also improved downshift throttle response and off the line power
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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for your Evosport pullies, did you take it to any shops to get them installed (authorized MB techs) or DIY at home?
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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Pullies install

i actually bought the install kit and went to a place near my home that only works on mercedes its a service shop with certified benz mechanics not a dealer and they did the install for 125$ it took about 30 min very easy install
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Another question. I was unclear from previous posts if you installed the pullies prior to the chip or vice versa?? Was there a difference in fuel mileage? It may be a weird question but with gas prices we have here in the SF bay area in CA prices are somewhat high.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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order of install

the order of install is in my sig
chip, pullies, K&N's
i noticed no difference in gas milage unless your abusing your car you shouldn't really notice it
i did gain 1 or 2 miles per gallon from the K&n's normal driving
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