Bi-X: W203/CL203 OEM Bi-XENON Upgrade, Auto-Levelling & Programming thread
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it really depends on who you buy it from and what condition they are in. the dealer will cost you around $2000 complete, whereas steve (netherlands) can get you a used pair for around $900 shipped. installation is easy to do yourself, but you must go to the dealer to have them program it for you. before you buy them, make sure you ask the dealer if they will make this change because many will not.
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almost forgot, do you have oem xenons and want to upgrade to bi-xenons, or do you have halogen? the reason i ask is because you may or may not have to go to the dealer for the setting change.
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Originally posted by Elite
I was talking about the new CLEAR bi-xenon headlights..
I was talking about the new CLEAR bi-xenon headlights..
I sold several sets here (OEM MB bi xenons...complete and fully functioning) but have only 1 US-spec set left (and 1 set for right hand steered cars)...this set has 1 light with a small flaw on the lens.
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yes elite, since you have standard xenons, you DO NOT have to go to the dealer. you already have the auto-levelling feature, so it is a simple "replace regular xenons and install new bi-xenons". that is it. you can install the set yourself in about an hour. its very easy.
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Bi - Xenon Lights
i have a C-Class with standard healight and want to update to the new bi xenon lights, what will i require ? how much does it cost and it is for a Europe spec car as i am in the UK , can anyone suggest anything
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Re: Bi - Xenon Lights
Originally posted by shazmer
can anyone suggest anything
can anyone suggest anything
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Helogen light to Xenon light
My C320 currently using BI-xenon. However I want to change my day time helogen light to xenon light. Is that possible? Also can fog light be replace with xenon light? I am not talking about those PIAA light bulb. I want to replace to Philips xenon kit. Can someone also post what other brand of xenon kit that can replace a C320 day time light and fog light. Thanks in advance.
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I take it that you are talking about the H7 bulbs in the smaller ovals. Please do not change them to HID's. The H7's operate at partial power to keep them from being too bright. HID's can only operate at full power, and are, as you know, much brighter than halogens at full power. You will be blinding those ahead of you, even in the day time. Please consider getting H7's which match your color of your HID's.
Yes, you can get HID's for the fog lights. Here again, they will be much brighter, and because of the beam pattern, you will dazzle those in front of you. In addition , the bluer color of them will cause the light to scatter more in the fog or other precipitation. Combined with the brighter light, you can dazzle yourself with the glare from those bulbs. Again, please have some consideration for the other drivers, and think about some 9006's which match the HID's in color.
Yes, you can get HID's for the fog lights. Here again, they will be much brighter, and because of the beam pattern, you will dazzle those in front of you. In addition , the bluer color of them will cause the light to scatter more in the fog or other precipitation. Combined with the brighter light, you can dazzle yourself with the glare from those bulbs. Again, please have some consideration for the other drivers, and think about some 9006's which match the HID's in color.
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Well said... (Hey Lynn... what's up man! ), but the glass cut (sharp upper cutoff with left and right dispersion) of the fog light lens should eliminate any oncoming traffic blindness (not counting the pavement reflectivity factor). This is not to suggest they'll be effective considering the Kelvin of fogs lights is usually between 2700 - 3800, and HID's start at 4000K. Space and the ballast power cord length are also a major factor.
), but the glass cut (sharp upper cutoff with left and right dispersion) of the fog light lens should eliminate any oncoming traffic blindness (not counting the pavement reflectivity factor). This is not to suggest they'll be effective considering the Kelvin of fogs lights is usually between 2700 - 3800, and HID's start at 4000K. Space and the ballast power cord length are also a major factor.
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Re: Helogen light to Xenon light
Originally posted by carlssoncclass
My C320 currently using BI-xenon. However I want to change my day time helogen light to xenon light. Is that possible? Also can fog light be replace with xenon light? I am not talking about those PIAA light bulb. I want to replace to Philips xenon kit. Can someone also post what other brand of xenon kit that can replace a C320 day time light and fog light. Thanks in advance.
My C320 currently using BI-xenon. However I want to change my day time helogen light to xenon light. Is that possible? Also can fog light be replace with xenon light? I am not talking about those PIAA light bulb. I want to replace to Philips xenon kit. Can someone also post what other brand of xenon kit that can replace a C320 day time light and fog light. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Re: Helogen light to Xenon light
Originally posted by CitronC230K_03
i thought that bi-xenon lights use full power low beam for daytime running lights. and the city light was, well just the city light, more common in europe and in some cases replaces the orange side marker lights.
i thought that bi-xenon lights use full power low beam for daytime running lights. and the city light was, well just the city light, more common in europe and in some cases replaces the orange side marker lights.
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i do agree with lynn though, the city light isnt confined enough to have xenon as the bulb. the light will be all over the place. thats why its like 5w bulb as it is.
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I knew the xenons in 2002 sedans used the xenon low beam bulbs for the DRL's, but I thought that it had been changed the H7 high beam bulbs in the small ovals based on the original post. I have yet to see the bi-xenon in action. I wasn't talking about the city lights at all.
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no i think we all got confused from the 1st post where its was said "My C320 currently using BI-xenon. However I want to change my day time helogen light to xenon light. Is that possible?" I was thinking they were referring to the 5w city lights because i can see how that can maybe confused with a daytime light, and i guess you thought they were referring to the H7 high beam bulbs, which are still there for 2003 bi-xenons and are halogen. either way both lights are not really designed for regular xenon use. maybe the H7 high beam so you would have xenon-dual-hi-xenons just incase you need extra light while driving thru a foggy cave. like the SBC commercials, sometimes 2 is not always better than 1. 
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Originally posted by Lynn
I knew the xenons in 2002 sedans used the xenon low beam bulbs for the DRL's, but I thought that it had been changed the H7 high beam bulbs in the small ovals based on the original post. I have yet to see the bi-xenon in action. I wasn't talking about the city lights at all.
I knew the xenons in 2002 sedans used the xenon low beam bulbs for the DRL's, but I thought that it had been changed the H7 high beam bulbs in the small ovals based on the original post. I have yet to see the bi-xenon in action. I wasn't talking about the city lights at all.
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Originally posted by FrankW
the daytime running light for the xenons are still those city lights right next to the highbeam bulb.
the daytime running light for the xenons are still those city lights right next to the highbeam bulb.
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Originally posted by Lynn
The city lights are not the DRL's, Frank. For those of us with halogens, the low beam H7 bulbs are the DRL's but operate at 65% of full power or 35.75 watts. Car with xenon head lights use the xenon low beam bulbs at full power. As Drew pointed out, car with bi-xenon use the xenon projector bulbs at full power for the DRL's. Xenon bulbs cannot operate at less than full power. Either they are at full brightness or they are off.
The city lights are not the DRL's, Frank. For those of us with halogens, the low beam H7 bulbs are the DRL's but operate at 65% of full power or 35.75 watts. Car with xenon head lights use the xenon low beam bulbs at full power. As Drew pointed out, car with bi-xenon use the xenon projector bulbs at full power for the DRL's. Xenon bulbs cannot operate at less than full power. Either they are at full brightness or they are off.
maybe DRL is not the citylight, but it's light up from the highbeam circle, definitely not lowbeam.The only car that I know uses lowbeam for daytime running light is the New Beetle.
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Cause i want to replace my day time light. Day times uses halogen light. Is it possible if I just replace the day time light with PIAA H7? Will that match the color to my Xenon? I personally do not like the contrast color between the Bi-xenon and the day time light.
