omgitsroy326

OK.. how much are H & R springs and is there only one type offered?

Also for sway bars... what is a good trusted brand? And how much do they run?

And for shocks ...same question.

gab

actually im waiting for Eibach to release their W203 spring

usually H&R have better performance and Eibach have better ride

sdcaclint

if you want performance as well as good looks, i recomend the H&R CupKit. it runs around $900. as you know when you lower a car and put higher rate springs on, you need to replace the shocks accordingly. if you don't, your stock shocks will wear at an accelerated rate, and your ride will be slugish. the CupKit is a matched shock and spring. i have also herd great things about the bilstein shocks. check www.autowerksexpress.com that is where i got mine.

patronus

gab,

Any idea when the Eibach springs will be available?

omgitsroy326

thanks

Is the H&R CupKit a coilover kit?

Also any information about sway bars?

Mach430

Be wary about buying products from unauthorized dealers. H&R products come with a full warranty when purchased from an H&R authorized dealer. However, there are no guarantees, and in no way does H&R stand behind any products sold through a non-authorized dealer. Yes, in many cases, you get a lower price. But they fail to mention that it is because you are not paying for any of the quality control issues that H&R offers with their products.

If you purchase from an AUTHORIZED dealer (and there are many) you will have a warranty and will have FULL factory support. Purchasing from a company that is not an authorized dealer will not give you these benefits. You all can call Roger, Steve or Roland at H&R (888.827.8881) to verify this. I know I would not buy something like this from anyone less then an authorized dealer who could stand behind the product and give me the piece of mind that my $40K or $50K or more MB was in good hands!

Thanks,

Ben

Mach430

The cup kit is not a coilover kit. The cup kit is a specially matched set of springs and shocks for the particular vehicle. Cup kits also tend to have shorter springs, resulting in more of a drop than H&R springs. Coilovers are also a matched set, but they have the ability to adjust the ride height, and in some cases, dampening.

Thanks

Ben

gab

H&R Cup kit may be too low people who just wanted a slightly firmer ride and lower stance

omgitsroy326

i still haven't got an answer about sways.. are you saying that no one here has aftermarket sways?

E_Corleone

I have a c320 and am trying to put 19" rims on it and lower it. I have an H&R cup kit on order, but im concerned it will rub and not fit right. I just read about how a coilover kit and how it is adjustable. Would that be a better thing for me to get than the cut kit? With a coilover kit could I lower the car just enough so I doesn't rub, but still looks good low and rides better? How much more is it to have a coilover kit installed?

omgitsroy326

i'll speak on an accord point of view.

People have dropped an accord on a sportsline which is a 2.2 inch drop with `19 z and no rub. It's really come out to your offset meaning that if you tires are really thick the they r going to run the lower the profile of your tire lesser chance you have of rubbin. All i have to say is that i drive and accord and if you have rubbing problems then a benz is a waste of money.


You shouldnt rub with a one inch drop and 19z.

Does anyone here know what sways are? maybe i'm saying it wrong. Anti roll kits?

sdcaclint

i believe the tire rack has something about a set of sway bars comming soon. i don't remember the brand name. i think it was eibach, but don't hold me to that

E_Corleone

The tires are 235x35x19 and an h&r cup kit drops the car 2" in the front and 1.4" in the back, not one inch. Theres a big difference. I need to know if I can adjust the drop with a coilover kit because the cup kit is a fixed ride.

omgitsroy326

a coilover kit is adjustable. I don't know if they make it for the C class but try TIEN. They are suppose to be really full coil over kits.

phattbam

how would buying a benz be a waste?? i have my car lowered, i havent been able to find a nice set of bars. i have the H&R cup kit. some ppl feel benzes are for the comfortable ride they offer in their factory form, others like to play with it. why do you run 19's?? for the looks or for added performance?? you would need to have a pretty strong engine to really crank them 19's around. just my opinion , i'm not here to start trouble...

Mach430

Eibach sway bars are coming soon, but there is no release date set.

Lynn

The Eibach bars are in development. Tirerack is taking orders and shows a price of $373.

http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/S...2002&x=161&y=5

Renntach sells swaybars for $915 per set.

http://www.renntechmercedes.com/spla...st_cars_f.html

E_Corleone

I got a really good deal on the 19"s. Auctually, it was cheaper for me to get the rims I wanted in 19" than 18", so I did. I think it will look good and run fine, but my concern is rubbing. Thats why I think I'm going to get the coilover kit. What do sway bars do and are they worth getting?

Lynn

Like higher rate springs, sway bars increase the roll resistance of the suspension. This results in a flatter attitude when cornering. However, it can change to way the car handles. Increasing the roll resistance at the front will result in increased understeer in most cars, or less oversteer in others. Increasing the rear roll resistance has the opposite effect, decreasing understeer in most cars or increasing oversteer in some cars (older 911's for example).


http://www.se-r.net/suspension/sway_bars.html

http://www.teamscr.com/sway.htm

phattbam

sorry i didnt mean to make it seem directed towards you in the post above. it was to 19's on the accord. just from personal experiences some japanese imports are low on the torque side compared to the euro imports.

omgitsroy326

yea i have to admit my car is ****in slow. Excuse my french, but it's not japan's fault it's america. In japan the 2.4 cyl 4 inline does 240 hp stock. In america the damn 4 cylinder only has 150hp.

My mom's got a benz, it's not like i'm poor here. Truthfuly i don't like the benz. My mom's got an S,i have to admit a V8 is really fast, but there are import cars that will do quarter miles in less than 8 seconds.

About the 19z with 35... what kind of rims do you have because if the rims are casted then watch out for the potholes cause they atre going to dent easily.

Sway bar: To make it easier for other people to understand. Let's just say that on a normal ride you could onl turn at 15 mph well with sways you should be able to do it at 45 mph. Big difference.

One of my friend with 8.5 rims a little exception could enter the freeway which is a 360 degree entrance at 100 mph. I could only force it to 45 mph.

I want a good suspension for my gf. that is all.

E_Corleone

I'm putting 19" Carlsson 1/6 Evo's on it.

phattbam

which model car does she have?? the 240, 320, c32 sedan or the 230 coupe??

omgitsroy326

c240 sedan... she got yesteday opal blk

jswedberg

omgitsroy326:

I guarantee there are no stock import cars (is MB not an import?) that can run a quarter mile in less than eight seconds. And a modified car (Pro-Stock) that could run those kinds of numbers would not be streetable. I bet it wouldn't have a four year maintanence-included warranty either.

There is a lot more to it than that. Slapping anti-sway bars on will not necessarily make your car perform better. Most MBs have anti-sway bars already. Changing them out is a tricky process and it is very possible to reduce cornering - if for instance understeer is produced by a too-large front bar.

Anti-sway bars will reduce the ride quality if you drive on rough roads. Any time the surface under the left tire is different from the right the bar is "activated" and the whole car reacts.

19 inch wheels will get you that certain "look". They will not make the car handle better and will likely slow it down due to increased weight near the periphery of the wheel.


You seem to be a little sensitive about your Honda. Remember this IS a Mercedes board, not a Honda board!