c350blknav

Hello everyone I have a semi serious question.

Can a supercharger from a C230 or a c32 amg be installed in a w204 C350 with a little custom Fabrication? Maybe a custom plenum. gaskets and belts? If it is possible then It might be worth the price. Tuners please don't be shy. These Dubs are so heavy I can't move people. LOL

Flame3g

man i wish there was somthing avalible if you find out any info keep us posted........I emailed kleemann awhile back and they said IF they were going to produce one it would probably cost as much as the V8 one

c350blknav

I will keep everyone posted, I'm calling local companies everyday. It's only matter of time.

c350blknav

WOW it's almost like I have the Plague..Nobody I contact wan'ts to help HA!

jangy

Call supercharger people, NOT benz tuners. I would go for Supra or Mustang Cobra SC specialists. It can easily be done. The questions will be how will the drivetrain hold up? Nobody that I know of did anything like that on a 350, yet and I haven't seen many performance mods for them, either. You wiling to use your car as the fitter?

MB Fanatic

Talk to Vadim @ VRP. He can figure something out for you guys. You need to get the specs on your transmission first. Each 7G transmission is different. I.E, E55 5 Speed versus E500 5 Speed. E55's transmission can tolerate 1000Nm of continuous torque, whereas the E500's cant.

c350blknav

I PM'd hime like Three Times still waiting

c350blknav

Definetly willing to have my car used as a fitter. Practically begging. Just wan't someone who has experience and is familiar with the car. But if I am desparate I will go for shops that tune other cars.

c350blknav

I looked at Ken Bell superchargers and they have their .87 blowers for 1399. I'm assuming if I let my car be the Guinea pig it wont cost more than another 2g's to for a tuning shop to create an intake plenum and intercooler piping. Intercooler might run another 500. talking about 4 g's out the door. That seems reasonable. The tuner will then have a tuned and marketable kompressor kit that they could sell to all the w204 v6 owners. If I really wan't to be cheap I can buy a smaller refurbished compressor from a C32 or a C230 and save about 1500 dollars but I doub't a shop would be interested since the mass marketability of that kit would not be as easy although a considerable amount of R&D could be shared for both options.


VADIM WHERE ARE YOU???? LOL Probably busy boosting amg engines!!! NO FAIR they get all the attention WAHH!

MB Fanatic

Vadim is a very busy man. He is working on a 5.7 liter engine for a member here who has an SL55. It will have in excess of 750hp . Just be patient with him as he is the only person I would ever trust besides Cory at Kleemann to tune these cars. Screw Renntech and their ridiculous prices, their work is also substandard IMO.

c350blknav

Yeah I already knew that, his id is Havoc i believe. I'm just trying to be funny. I will follow your advice and be patient. Hopefully I can get this done before I leave the Southern California indefinetly in August. Cheers. I'll be one of the few members in Mississippi!

cybertechc300

mossellmann turbo systems have a supercharger for the 350 go check them out..its expensive but you want it so be it right..and also go to sonicms.net and look for albert and tell him joe refered you to him that shop can do anything you want to euros.there based out here in the bay area

AMGTestDriverNJ

Doesn't look like Mossellman has actually produced this turbo kit yet. They just have the cars listed.

c350blknav

Just got the B please from Vadim LOL!! He said that at this time they had no plans in making a supercharger system for the 350 but they were coming out with headers later this year. Every time I've done a Headers modification I've had that tinging noise because of bad sealing so I'm not going to risk having my headers leak on a benz heck no LOL.

c350blknav

Thanks, If I wan't to go with european tuners their's plenty but that Euro to Dollar Exchange rate is total BS. Its the principal of it all. I'm not paying 15000 dollars when someone in europe pays 1000 euro's for the same thing. It's not my fault I live in the US. Unless the whole world adopts a common currency our global economy is going to be in the ****ter, but that's not the only problem. Actually the closes thing to a global currency used to be the US dollar. Once that Euro came out it kinda took over among rich european businesses that used to trade in Dollars. Asia and middle east still trade in dollars but we went and attacked them HAHAHAH great for the dollar huh?



Anyway enough global economic polictical bs...

I sent an inquiry to Sonic MS.

I also am taking Jangy's advice and I'm going to speak directly with Kenne Bell to see if they have time for me.

Thanks for all the suport guys. Victory will ensue. A 4-5k FI kit for the c class is very possible.

StickyZ

Flame3g

let the power be with you

narky

I'd be interested in a kit for the C300. Later down the line, of course, after warranty is over and done. By that time, I should be sufficiently bored with this car... and all the kinks in the system woulda been worked out.

jangy

Where are you at? I'm down to do a project to add 50hp?

c350blknav

I am in Orange County California until the end of july. Then I am leaving to Mississippi. Jangy, I'm down!!


I am talking with Erick in houston who is doing the TT C32.

He says a TT system would be 7 g's and give me about 350 WHP. That's about 140 more whp than factory tuned! Those are like e90 M3, audi RS4 numbers. But I am looking for more of a gain on low end and nothing to change the overall character of the car. Turbo's are very good at changing the entire character of a car's acceleration becuase of the nature of their acceration delivery. Kind of like Dr.Jeckyl and Mr.Hyde.
Sounds good, but I still wan't something cheaper and with about 290-300 WHP.

So I asked him about installing a small Kenne Bell. See what he says.

I don't wan't too much power.

But things are looking up. At least we are making progress!

But the TT setup is AWESOME!! Definetly Ridiculously insane!

The thing is, For a supercharger to generate 300 whp, it will have to run the same boost as a turbo system that make 350 since the supercharger draws power from the engine just to run. About 50 BHP. So the turbo set up wil probably be a safer solution even if I wan't less power, I'll just urn down the boost. It's just expensive and envolves a lot of tearing stuff apart.

It's good to have finally have options now LOL!

jangy

I'm gonna be honest with you. You are expecting too much in too little time. Set realistic goals and attain them. I am in SD. I will work with you IF you commit and stay focussed. I know we can easily get 50hp out of it and more likely 100hp in that time. It would be things that have been done on other cars and are not at all invasive. It still leaves the door open for aspiration, but I'd go SC on a V6.

c350blknav

I'm down and commited to talk nuts and bolts.
How about we meet up next weekend? I'll come down to San Diego. PM me an address of a good place to meet up.

Honestly if I could have my wish. I go with an sc and have a plenum and intercooler fabricated and an ECU tune. Stock exhaust. Would be willing to have my car be the fitter.

StickyZ

i am so very interested in a turbo or SC set up but guys, we are not going to come anywhere near M3, or RS4 numbers and you are CRAZY if you think otherwise. you want these cars faster but they weigh a ton and your already putting on 20's that prob weigh over 35 lb's each, w/o the rubber. hmmmmmm. if we can get up around 300hp/350hp NA or forced i'd be happy but we're still gonna be left in the dust by a lightly modded/stock 335i. m3's, rs4's...not even the same league.

jangy

What is the weight difference? I don't even know. My intent was never to be like an M3 or 335i. I just love the C and have lots of various contacts that can do just these kind of projects. Long run, if I can really get the power up to 350, put z rated tires and appropriate rims (likely 18s if not wider 17s) and replace the brakes, it may be a fun car. Plus, the cost will be just right

c350blknav

[QUOTE=StickyZ;2872539]i am so very interested in a turbo or SC set up[QUOTE]
me too.