C-Class (W204) 2008 - 2014: C180K, C200K, C230, C280, C300, C350, C200CDI, C220CDI, C320CDI

Oil Changes - MB Oil Analyzer

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:17 AM
  #1  
racetested's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 418
Likes: 1
08 MB
Oil Changes - MB Oil Analyzer

A decent article that explains how the service indicator works.

I personally was all about the 3,000 mile oil changes but I have changed that mindset with new car technology and synthetic oil.

No need to make the oil executives richer than they are with more frequent oil changes if a car doesn't need it.

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...MzMDAwLW9pbA--
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2008 | 11:35 AM
  #2  
Ron Jr's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 2,824
Likes: 1
From: Long Island, New York
2013 C300 Sport Black Darth V3.0
I read that article earlier very interesting. I was also in the every 3,000 mile club (used to be 2,000 before syn). Now I'll just follow MB's schedule.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2008 | 04:59 PM
  #3  
Carsy's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,714
Likes: 56
From: 1 hours drive north of Sydney Australia
2007 W204 220CDI Classic Sedan
Originally Posted by racetested
A decent article that explains how the service indicator works.

I personally was all about the 3,000 mile oil changes but I have changed that mindset with new car technology and synthetic oil.

No need to make the oil executives richer than they are with more frequent oil changes if a car doesn't need it.

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...MzMDAwLW9pbA--
I feel a fair amount of scepticism on the above article. He is going back to the dark ages when speaking of " single-grade, non-detergent oils."I am 61 & there has been multi grade detergent oils available during all my motoring life.
Doing 2 oil changes a year instead of one costs me a whole $100 with filter.
My second car , a diesel, recently had the fuel p/p seals repaired after 14 years servive & 255,000 km. A lot of pumps have to have expensive mechanical repairs also at this mileage . Mine did not & I put it down to twice yearly oil changes.

John.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 12:35 AM
  #4  
RLE's Avatar
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 6
From: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Out of date

Originally Posted by racetested
A decent article that explains how the service indicator works.

I personally was all about the 3,000 mile oil changes but I have changed that mindset with new car technology and synthetic oil.

No need to make the oil executives richer than they are with more frequent oil changes if a car doesn't need it.

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/auto...MzMDAwLW9pbA--
Of what service indicator do you speak? Mercedes abandoned the FSS system a few years ago and went to fixed 13K mile changes. Which means the '08 C-Class does not have it.

Last edited by RLE; Jun 18, 2008 at 12:38 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:03 AM
  #5  
racetested's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 418
Likes: 1
08 MB
Originally Posted by RLE
Of what service indicator do you speak? Mercedes abandoned the FSS system a few years ago and went to fixed 13K mile changes. Which means the '08 C-Class does not have it.
I'm not a Mercedes tech or have all the insight of how their scheduled oil changes are monitored. All I can say is I asked the service adviser "how come I don't need to change the oil after the first 500-1000 mile break in like the ways of old" and "how do I know the oil is fine and I don't need more frequent oil changes".

The reply was simply there are sensors to monitor the oil now and from the article I posted I assumed this was a better explanation for curious people. If this is not the case then any information is welcome.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:11 AM
  #6  
racetested's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 418
Likes: 1
08 MB
Carsy,
I agree it's not about the money as an extra oil change a year is not going to break the bank.

On another note there are millions of cars on the road and if every one of those did an extra oil change and didn't have to we just used quite a lot more oil and added to the expensive oil prices. I'm not a tree hugger but I know simple mathematics and if we don't have to waste oil why do it. I'm just not a believer in wasting anything for no point at all.

The case of your seals is more speculation and coincidence than any real proof to back it up.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 09:51 AM
  #7  
atmun's Avatar
Almost a Member!
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
2009 C300 sport
I was told by a dealer that the 09s c-class will have the milage lowered to 10,000 between service.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 12:25 PM
  #8  
dalazernet's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 669
Likes: 28
From: Little Falls, NJ
2020 GLC300 4MATIC
Originally Posted by atmun
I was told by a dealer that the 09s c-class will have the milage lowered to 10,000 between service.
ERK! They better not... else I won't know whether to do every 13k or 10k with my 08! Grr...

Perhaps those memory seats require the more frequent oil changes LOL
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 05:05 PM
  #9  
Carsy's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,714
Likes: 56
From: 1 hours drive north of Sydney Australia
2007 W204 220CDI Classic Sedan
Originally Posted by racetested
Carsy,
I agree it's not about the money as an extra oil change a year is not going to break the bank.

On another note there are millions of cars on the road and if every one of those did an extra oil change and didn't have to we just used quite a lot more oil and added to the expensive oil prices. I'm not a tree hugger but I know simple mathematics and if we don't have to waste oil why do it. I'm just not a believer in wasting anything for no point at all.

The case of your seals is more speculation and coincidence than any real proof to back it up.
Hello Racetested, I think it all boils down to how long one intends keeping the car as to how often the oil is changed.We drove our last 2 cars for a total of 29 years & I have yet to pull a piston or bearing.In fact the 1979 model was lent to my daughter who had it for another 9 years . The total kms driven by the family was 450,000Km without even the alloy cylinder head being removed. Oil changes took place at 7500km & coolant every 12 months.
My concern is that manufacturers today lengthen the oil change interval to make life easier for rental , fleet & lease buyers & do not have the long term owners interest at heart. Even with the cleaner diesel fuels of today the synthetic diesel engine oil becomes fouled at a faster rate than petrol engines.For folk who are only keeping their vehicle for 3 ,4 or 5 years , why bother doing extra oil changes !!! Old John.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 05:17 PM
  #10  
dalazernet's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 669
Likes: 28
From: Little Falls, NJ
2020 GLC300 4MATIC
Originally Posted by Carsy
Hello Racetested, I think it all boils down to how long one intends keeping the car as to how often the oil is changed.We drove our last 2 cars for a total of 29 years & I have yet to pull a piston or bearing.In fact the 1979 model was lent to my daughter who had it for another 9 years . The total kms driven by the family was 450,000Km without even the alloy cylinder head being removed. Oil changes took place at 7500km & coolant every 12 months.
My concern is that manufacturers today lengthen the oil change interval to make life easier for rental , fleet & lease buyers & do not have the long term owners interest at heart. Even with the cleaner diesel fuels of today the synthetic diesel engine oil becomes fouled at a faster rate than petrol engines.For folk who are only keeping their vehicle for 3 ,4 or 5 years , why bother doing extra oil changes !!! Old John.
Now this is really something that made me think... I was always a little uneasy with the 13k mile intervals (coming from a Pontiac with 3k mile intervals) it just seemed wrong, but either way. I wonder if the engines are truly "just fine" with this amount of miles between oil changes, or if someone up in MB headquarters is pushing the envelope to make the incentive nicer to lease folks as apposed to those of us purchasing who intend to keep for the long haul (I dream of high mileage awards!!!)

- Eric
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 05:43 PM
  #11  
QQQ's Avatar
QQQ
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
From: Toronto, ON, Canada
MY2001 C320
Originally Posted by atmun
I was told by a dealer that the 09s c-class will have the milage lowered to 10,000 between service.
In Canada it is 15,000km (10,000 miles) for C63 and 20,000km (13,000 miles) everything else for MY09.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 06:01 PM
  #12  
jrct9454's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 678
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver WA
'14 GLK250 Diesel
With the combination of cleaner emissions [less crud from the combustion process getting into the crankcase] and synthetic oils, it makes no sense at all to be dumping the oil prematurely in these cars.

I'm convinced, however, that this topic is akin to discussing religion - no amount of back-and-forth seems to move people who are determined to change the oil according to some schedule they carry in their heads. To say it "doesn't cost much more" ignores the wastage that is inherent in prematurely dumping the crankcase at the rate of 2+ gallons of oil each time.

I just changed the oil for the first time on our W204, as we are coming up on the one-year mark. We accumulated about 8500 miles in that time. I have every intention of keeping this car a long time - if we had gone the full 13k miles in that time, that would have been OK with me. When I checked the oil last week, the thing that struck me was how clean it looked after 8k+ miles.

I don't believe that there is some conspiracy in the high-end car business to systematically ruin the engines of their customers. But do whatever you want.....

Last edited by jrct9454; Jun 18, 2008 at 06:57 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2008 | 08:31 PM
  #13  
rgrpc's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio TX
2008 C300
your right
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:22 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE