C-Class (W204) 2008 - 2014: C180K, C200K, C230, C280, C300, C350, C200CDI, C220CDI, C320CDI

So I've got a C300 rental while my C300 is in the shop.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 05:07 PM
  #1  
CarGuru's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 446
Likes: 1
'08 C 300 Sport, '01 SL 500 & '08 Nissan Frontier SE Crew Cab 4WD
So I've got a C300 rental while my C300 is in the shop.

Thats right I wont bore you all to death on the details of why my car is in the shop. Long & short I probably need a new radio because my pre-sets won't hold and the dealer damaged my rear door trying to fix the rear lock pins under warranty. Car went in to get said damage replace/ fixed and they damaged the entire door card necessitating replacement now of the entire rear door panel. Anyway onto my rental C300 comparison to my C300.

My loaner is an '08 built 12/07 our car was built I think 6/07? It's not in the garage as I write, but it's a wild guess? Anyway. Both cars are C300 Sports, but the loaner has the standard 17" wheel while ours has the 18" AMG. The loaner has 4100 miles on it our car 18K. First thank I noticed is the command knob or deal in the center console that you use for the display feels heavier on the rental, more substantial and as if made of metal. The one in our car feels plasticly and light? Also the one in the rental feels like it has ball bearings or something while ours feels like it has a cheap plastic clicker.

As I motored home down the freeway I had my hand resting on the back of the pass side headrest. Why does the back of the headrest on the rental feel like that non-skid rubberized material but it's "hard textured" plastic on our car. Also the rental has black interior MB-Tex and ours has light Grey MB-Tex not sure if that makes a difference. Other visual cues the roof antenna on our car is glossy black the one on the rental is mate-black? The rental does not have P1 or satellite radio so that might be the difference??

On to the drive... The steering feels heavier on the rental, our car feels like it has too much assist by comparison? I notice the manual mode works with much more precision on the rental. Push the shifter to the + and the car upshifts, even using light pressure or being lazy. In my car I have to nearly slam the shfter to the +/- or it stays in the previous gear. For instance I can push it left or right gently then look and I'm still in 3rd gear. Push it hard and then there it goes 4th very annoying.

I never drove a base car luxury or sport or any C300/ C350 that didn't have 18" AMG wheels. If I can recommend a single stand alone option the $1K was well spent here. Our car feels so much more enthusiastic and planted on the road. I hit the apex on an on ramp in the rental that I'm used to easily entering at 60+ in my C300 sport with 18" wheels/ tires in the rental and it was all understeer with the anti-skid aids kicking in way prematurely. The verdict in the handling department, this rentals handling character is a lot more mundane feeling.

Ironically the rental feels quicker, more snappier and doesn't hunt through the gears as much as our car? On the other side when just motoring through town and parkinglots the engine has a low drone that almost sounds like a sewing machine. I don't remember hearing this in our car? Also I don't want to get on anyone that has silver but the silver and the base wheels makes me feel like I'm driving a very uninspiring car very boring and such. But I've never been a silver guy....in fact I got rid of a Civic i bought new in 2002 a year later because the silver color was so boring and didn't look any nicer when cleaned up. Anyway my point of this thread is either to point out I was expecting to not feel a big difference between the two cars, and that I think MB snuck in or changed a few parts after the initial build. Our car was purchased August 12th so it was an early build.

-Ryan

Last edited by CarGuru; Aug 10, 2008 at 05:10 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 10:14 PM
  #2  
MB Fanatic's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,143
Likes: 1
From: South Orange County, CA
4 wheels
Parts are changed and or updated during production all the time. You could ask the dealer to update your transmission control unit and valve body to make the transmission shift a bit quicker and more precisely. Also have them look at the steering and COMAND controller just as precautionary.
Reply
Old Aug 10, 2008 | 11:21 PM
  #3  
S204HONGKONG's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 124
Likes: 1
W212 E250 AV
Usually, the 17inch alloys are lighter than the 18's, so there is less unsprung weight, and the acceleration will feel livelier
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 09:42 AM
  #4  
wblynch's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 396
Likes: 0
From: Mission Viejo, California
2008 c350 SG - 2004 c240 Wagon BS
Interesting observations. Did you notice if both cars are built in the same, or different, plants? (South Africa/Germany)
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 10:21 AM
  #5  
Will617's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 6
2016 C63S
Sorry to hear about your bad luck

They way you describe the drive itself makes it sound like one car was in Sport mode and the other in Cruise.
Maybe MB has a "special design" for their rentals



" You never walk alone "
Liverpool
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 12:01 PM
  #6  
mb_horseshoe's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 251
Likes: 0
2008 C300 Sport
I noticed the Antenna Fin thing as well when I purchased mine. The car I wanted had the matte black (or rubber) Antenna Fin, whereas a handful of other C's on the lot had the glossy, more substantial Antenna Fin.

I assumed it was the Satellite Radio (p1) option, but that was put to rest when I drove one w/o P1 and it had a glossy Fin.

Anyone else know what the difference is?
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 01:37 PM
  #7  
FrankW's Avatar
MBworld Guru
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 22,058
Likes: 18
From: Diamond Bar, CA
W206 PHEV AMG
what others said plus the loaner may feel quicker due to less gear hunting is because the way people drive the loaners. The transmission/throttle are adaptive. the more aggressive you drive the more aggressive the transmission is. usually it would hold the gear longer.

also if you really want to have your engine make the most power it can, don't ever baby it thinking you will hurt it by giving it more throttle. 3-5k miles between oil change will be best.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:05 PM
  #8  
dalazernet's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 669
Likes: 28
From: Little Falls, NJ
2020 GLC300 4MATIC
Well, just to add a few things - I nearly burned myself on my comand controller knob after a long day in the heat of the sun... so I'm pretty sure it is metal. It feels buttery smooth as well with a very solid turn as you describe. I've got all black inside and it did seem a lot softer (less hard plastic) than the loaners I've had which were older. It sounds like they might be combatting people's arguments of "too much hard plastic" yadda yadda.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 03:24 PM
  #9  
RickP330's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 473
Likes: 1
From: Long Island, New York
2019 GLA 250 - I am in purgatory right now...
Originally Posted by FrankW
The transmission/throttle are adaptive.
Is this true? I thought this was an AMG or S class option / feature. I was not aware that we had adaptive transmissions...
RickP
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:04 PM
  #10  
jrct9454's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 678
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver WA
'14 GLK250 Diesel
All cars with the current 7-G automatic have "adaptive" features built into the software.
Reply
Old Aug 11, 2008 | 05:18 PM
  #11  
imboom's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
I checked my knob and it's definitely made out of metal on the sides but plastic on top. Car was built in 08/07. The knob also feels like it's on ball bearings too with a subtle click.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2011 | 03:02 AM
  #12  
delirium's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 636
Likes: 3
From: Orange County, Ca
C350
It's all about ball bearings... 30 weight. -fletch
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:01 AM
  #13  
C300Sport's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,601
Likes: 28
From: Atlanta, GA
2008 C300 Sport 6 Speed Manual, 1953 Chevy Bel-Air, 2015 Audi allroad, 1963 Chevy Apache
Originally Posted by FrankW
what others said plus the loaner may feel quicker due to less gear hunting is because the way people drive the loaners. The transmission/throttle are adaptive. the more aggressive you drive the more aggressive the transmission is. usually it would hold the gear longer.
+1 Many people beat their loaners like a rented mule so the trans will be pretty aggressive.

I have been in a loaner C300 for over a week while they are shipping my new manual trans from Germany and I have to say I like some of the changers from 08 to 10.

The hooded gauges, instant fuel economy readings and the fact the readout stays where you had it after shut off and restart are nice. The smoother leather on the steering wheel is a nice touch also. While I like the field of view the old Dumbo ears provide, the new mirrors do offer less noise and turbulence when you have the windows down.
While I really prefer a manual transmission, I have to say this auto transmission has got to be one of the best out there(for traditional automatics anyhow). Smooth, clean shifts and willingness to kick down when needed. Although the manual shifts are a little slow, once you account for the delay, it works quite well.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2011 | 01:35 PM
  #14  
noka's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,367
Likes: 3
From: MA
'24 Porsche Macan
Originally Posted by FrankW
3-5k miles between oil change will be best.

Really?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2011 | 05:31 PM
  #15  
jctevere's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,108
Likes: 7
From: Dix Hills, New York
2012 C250 Coupe
Originally Posted by C300Sport
+1 Many people beat their loaners like a rented mule so the trans will be pretty aggressive.

I have been in a loaner C300 for over a week while they are shipping my new manual trans from Germany and I have to say I like some of the changers from 08 to 10.

The hooded gauges, instant fuel economy readings and the fact the readout stays where you had it after shut off and restart are nice. The smoother leather on the steering wheel is a nice touch also. While I like the field of view the old Dumbo ears provide, the new mirrors do offer less noise and turbulence when you have the windows down.
While I really prefer a manual transmission, I have to say this auto transmission has got to be one of the best out there(for traditional automatics anyhow). Smooth, clean shifts and willingness to kick down when needed. Although the manual shifts are a little slow, once you account for the delay, it works quite well.
Yea, I have to agree with you. Personally, they messed with the 2010 and 2011 too much. 2009 looks best IMO. The speedo cluster in the 2011 is changed even further form the 2009 cluster and it looks weird. They made each line fatter and the longer increments seem less distinguished and very busy. I also hate the new design of the mirrors, they are too low... The only thing I wish my 2009 had over my sister's 2011 is that her TPMS will physically tell her the pressure in her tires. (Why doesn't MB just issue an update for this?)
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2011 | 05:45 PM
  #16  
sagar350z's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
From: NJ
2012 C350 coupe
Originally Posted by jctevere
Yea, I have to agree with you. Personally, they messed with the 2010 and 2011 too much. 2009 looks best IMO. The speedo cluster in the 2011 is changed even further form the 2009 cluster and it looks weird. They made each line fatter and the longer increments seem less distinguished and very busy. I also hate the new design of the mirrors, they are too low... The only thing I wish my 2009 had over my sister's 2011 is that her TPMS will physically tell her the pressure in her tires. (Why doesn't MB just issue an update for this?)
I totally agree with your last point about the TPMS. Maybe the dealer could update it for you, i will try asking next time i go.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2011 | 10:52 PM
  #17  
RLE's Avatar
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 6
From: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Originally Posted by CarGuru


As I motored home down the freeway I had my hand resting on the back of the pass side headrest.

-Ryan
Why are you doing this? Don't you realize how dangerous this is? Usually you only see rednecks in old pickups drive like this and then they would be resting their other wrist on top of the wheel.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:19 AM
  #18  
Rainman15's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
From: Chesapeake VA
09 C350, 1960 Impala
We drive a 2009 C-350 with every available option. Recently I had a 2010 C-300 loaner and a I too noticed some of these items that I really like about the 10 vs my 09. Absolutey, the tire pressure monitor reading exact individual tire pressure is much nicer in the 10. I also liked the fact that whatever setting you had the info center in the speedo set to stays the same if you shut off then restart. Also my 18" wheel AMG setup handles MUCH better than the base car.

If there is a way to update our 09 to show actual pressures on the TPMS readout, and keep the info center display from reverting to default mileage display instead of the setting I actually want it on, then I'd love to do it. Though it is something I hate to have to do, this is worth a trip to my waste of oxygen LOCAL MB Dealership.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:35 PM
  #19  
Mtl20v's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 388
Likes: 1
From: Montreal
2013 E350 4M, 997 Turbo, MK3 GTI
I drove an 08 c300 not too long ago and it felt noticeably slower and had a couple cheaper touches to it. Same options, sport and premium.
Reply
Old Feb 13, 2011 | 10:54 PM
  #20  
RLE's Avatar
RLE
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,986
Likes: 6
From: SEATTLE WASHINGTON USA
'08 C300 Lux Barolo Red Beige Leather P2 MM 18" wheels '84 944
Heavy

Originally Posted by S204HONGKONG
Usually, the 17inch alloys are lighter than the 18's, so there is less unsprung weight, and the acceleration will feel livelier
My rear 18"s with Bridgestones weigh in at fifty pounds each.
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:19 PM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE