Is 040 Black as good as the Obsedian Black
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2015 C63S E1 (sold 2012 C63 AMG Sedan (Premium & APX)) & 09 C300 Sport 4Matic
Is 040 Black as good as the Obsedian Black
In Canada MB charges $850 for the metallic paints.
Dealer tells me the 040 Black is not as durable as the metalic 197.
BS? or not?
..jack
PS: I like the Iridium Silver too but boring no? Plus it's $850, why on earth would they charge for paint in this day and age :-)
Dealer tells me the 040 Black is not as durable as the metalic 197.
BS? or not?
..jack
PS: I like the Iridium Silver too but boring no? Plus it's $850, why on earth would they charge for paint in this day and age :-)
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Because they can.
I agree with you that paint is just paint, and with sufficient volume, it shouldn't cost more just because it's metallic. Especially $850 more for one car.
But they can.
You might be able to negotiate ....
I agree with you that paint is just paint, and with sufficient volume, it shouldn't cost more just because it's metallic. Especially $850 more for one car.
But they can.
You might be able to negotiate ....
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At the same time I have heard from many that the metallic paints hold up much better to fading because of the reflective properties. But who knows...
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Black or metallic black?
Anyhow, all the MB colors are clear coated so the surface is the same.
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040 black is durable... it will scratch and swirl easily. Even tho it does have PPG ceramiclear paint, swirl marks will still happen
Obsidian is not more durable, infact if anything it is LESS durable. Paint makers used to have issues with clear coats bonding to metallic paints due to the different materials in the paint. Now that is not really an issue but flat black and clear will still have a stronger bond.
Obsidian is not more durable, infact if anything it is LESS durable. Paint makers used to have issues with clear coats bonding to metallic paints due to the different materials in the paint. Now that is not really an issue but flat black and clear will still have a stronger bond.
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040 will swirl quite easy...but so will the Obsidian just won't see it as easily. If you would have asked about Obsidian Black back when I first got mine I would have talked it all up like it was the best color to get....but after having owned it now for 9 months I can say don't waste the money on the Obsidian Black. The only time it looks good is when its super clean, other wise it just looks like 040 Black thats dirty.
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I have 040 Black and yes it shows everything but when it's clean it looks great. Also if you ever have body work done 040 will match much better then any metallic.
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Ya, I have a 040 on order ( just like the last car and the one before that and the one before that), I wanted a change but ..... can't seem to realy like another colour .. almost went for a white one , but no ...
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I highly doubt it, they all have clearcoat anyway.
I am not sure metallics are the same as pearl colors but I had a car with pearl white paint and it was 3 coats (isntead of 2 on flat colors) to add that "pearl" to it, and faded unevenly on sheetmetal vs plastics. It also costs more to repair if it ever gets scratched.
I am not sure metallics are the same as pearl colors but I had a car with pearl white paint and it was 3 coats (isntead of 2 on flat colors) to add that "pearl" to it, and faded unevenly on sheetmetal vs plastics. It also costs more to repair if it ever gets scratched.
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I have 040 and I think it looks great...the dealership had me bring it in for some type of protecterant spray outside and inside and was told not to wash it for 3 days afterward. Now when I wash it it looks like it was just waxed every time... I couldn't be happier with the color...
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At our AMG meets, everybody has Obsidian Black except me. Mine is the 040 Black, and it is so much "blacker" that it's not even funny. If you want there to be no mistake you're driving Darth Vader's car, get the Black!
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I've been to several w204 meets and the 040 Black is exceptional when its clean and detailed. I heard the obsidian black has some 'self-healing properties' but I haven't tested that yet ;P. But yeah, 040 is really nice.
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**edit: I think Nissan did the 'self-healing paint', I got confused for a second, I think I was just referring to the scratch resistant clear coat...
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/index.cfm?NewsID=141&id=611
Scratch-X eh? I've heard good stories, perhaps I shall pick some up next trip to Lordco
http://www.mercedes-benz.ca/index.cfm?NewsID=141&id=611
Scratch-X eh? I've heard good stories, perhaps I shall pick some up next trip to Lordco
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