World Premier Of The 45 mpg C-Class
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World Premier Of The 45 mpg C-Class
Mercedes today has officially taken the wraps of their newest diesel engine generation – one that will be launched starting in autumn 2008. While the new engine will replace four of Mercedes' current diesel powerplants and be featured on a number of different Mercedes models, including the E-Class, the GLK-Class and the E-Class Coupé (yes, you heard me right – an E-Class Coupé is coming), the engine will first make its debut on the new C-Class pictured before you: a model that's being called the C 350 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY Prime Edition. And I have to tell you, the figures are impressive, to say the least.
http://emercedesbenz.com/Sep08/10_00...e_Edition.html
http://emercedesbenz.com/Sep08/10_00...e_Edition.html
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You blokes crack me up. Here is a thread on a major new hi tech & fuel efficient engine development & we talk of how nice the mirrors look One would not think that fuel prices are at a record high & that global warming is threatening our planet.
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Mercedes today has officially taken the wraps of their newest diesel engine generation – one that will be launched starting in autumn 2008. While the new engine will replace four of Mercedes' current diesel powerplants and be featured on a number of different Mercedes models, including the E-Class, the GLK-Class and the E-Class Coupé (yes, you heard me right – an E-Class Coupé is coming), the engine will first make its debut on the new C-Class pictured before you: a model that's being called the C 350 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY Prime Edition. And I have to tell you, the figures are impressive, to say the least.
http://emercedesbenz.com/Sep08/10_00...e_Edition.html
http://emercedesbenz.com/Sep08/10_00...e_Edition.html
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I actually will by this car next if the fuel consumption is that low and if i like the engine ( I am planing to buy a bigger engine next time ) and if road tax is not that high. Amsterdam is the most expensive place for fuel in the whole world. This car would make a lot of difference.
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don't like the mirror nor the single exhaust outlet.
but the MPG is impressive!!!
but the MPG is impressive!!!
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My dealer has said for some time that they are expecting the new 4cyl diesel in the C and GLK by 2010. The salesman I talked to thinks the announcement for the US market will come no later than the NY Show, which is next April.
I'm more than ready....already have plans for an OSD on this car in late 2010 [2011 model year].
And by the way, the reference in the article to 5000 cars refers to the special edition that has the extra body pieces, special trim, etc., not to eventual mass production models.
I'm more than ready....already have plans for an OSD on this car in late 2010 [2011 model year].
And by the way, the reference in the article to 5000 cars refers to the special edition that has the extra body pieces, special trim, etc., not to eventual mass production models.
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I love the mirrors, but the turn signals are ugly. The mileage is good, but can it really make up for the higher cost of a diesel car and the higher cost of the diesel itself? Seriously, make me understand the attraction. I am not trying to be a jerk. I really want to know.
I know I'll be in trouble for saying this, but I have heard claim after claim about cleaner diesel engines, but it seems like most are puffing black oily smoke after few years.
I know I'll be in trouble for saying this, but I have heard claim after claim about cleaner diesel engines, but it seems like most are puffing black oily smoke after few years.
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I love the mirrors, but the turn signals are ugly. The mileage is good, but can it really make up for the higher cost of a diesel car and the higher cost of the diesel itself? Seriously, make me understand the attraction. I am not trying to be a jerk. I really want to know.
I know I'll be in trouble for saying this, but I have heard claim after claim about cleaner diesel engines, but it seems like most are puffing black oily smoke after few years.
I know I'll be in trouble for saying this, but I have heard claim after claim about cleaner diesel engines, but it seems like most are puffing black oily smoke after few years.
The modern diesel engine definitely does not puff black smoke. Clever electronic engine management does not allow this to happen. My 220 CDI W204 C Class diesel exhaust is so clean it smells more like LPG than diesel
The 2008 diesel C Class is more highly thought of by motoring writers than the petrol 4 cyl compressor . The massive 400 NM of torque ( V8 territory) at 2000 RPM really suits the auto gearbox making the car very responsive.ie 0-60 in 8.4 seconds.
I could not be happier with my little diesel & feel like its my birthday every time I drive it!!
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That was my initial reaction too.
Question is "how well would a manual transmission diesel" be accepted is probably the issue they're testing.
I think what helps the '08 C cars get good highway mileage is that it doesn't go into 7th gear (automatic) till around 53-55 miles per hour. Since most of us drive at 72-75 when possible, could they not add an 8th gear that kicks in at that level to reduce the engine RPM???? or would that not work?
Question is "how well would a manual transmission diesel" be accepted is probably the issue they're testing.
I think what helps the '08 C cars get good highway mileage is that it doesn't go into 7th gear (automatic) till around 53-55 miles per hour. Since most of us drive at 72-75 when possible, could they not add an 8th gear that kicks in at that level to reduce the engine RPM???? or would that not work?
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That was my initial reaction too.
Question is "how well would a manual transmission diesel" be accepted is probably the issue they're testing.
I think what helps the '08 C cars get good highway mileage is that it doesn't go into 7th gear (automatic) till around 53-55 miles per hour. Since most of us drive at 72-75 when possible, could they not add an 8th gear that kicks in at that level to reduce the engine RPM???? or would that not work?
Question is "how well would a manual transmission diesel" be accepted is probably the issue they're testing.
I think what helps the '08 C cars get good highway mileage is that it doesn't go into 7th gear (automatic) till around 53-55 miles per hour. Since most of us drive at 72-75 when possible, could they not add an 8th gear that kicks in at that level to reduce the engine RPM???? or would that not work?
Also, the cars are geared now do that 7th results in such a low rpm (it is an overdrive as I know, maximum speed can be reached in 6th) that adding an 8th for lower rpm would make the car undrivable.
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Diesels usually give around 30% increased economy when compared with petrol. So the cost of diesel would have to be 30% dearer at the pump for nil gain. Diesel engined cars do sometimes cost more than their petrol counterparts . You will have to do your maths on how long it will take to cover any extra costs.
There is also a review of a GLK BlueTEC in the newest Car and Driver in which they fell in love with all the torque, but found out that at highway speeds you have to plan two car lengths ahead if you want to pass as the power at higher rpms just isn't there (210 hp, all the torque is given in the first two gears). This car will be a welcomed site to those Europeans where gasoline is more per gallon than diesel, but in the States it just doesn't add up for me, unless your one of those people that loves to brag about every single mpg you get per tank no matter how much you paid to get it.
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Yeah keep in mind that the price of the diesel engine will be more than its gasoline counter part. It also costs more to service the diesel engine, such as using more oil than its gasoline counter part. Plus this is the new BlueTEC version and will require a urea tank to be filled at each servicing too. To me with all this added cost, plus the fact that gasoline prices have dropped and are now cheaper than diesel prices and I already get mid 30's in mpg, the addition of a few more mpg most likely won't balance out the price I have to pay for the engine or its maintenance.
There is also a review of a GLK BlueTEC in the newest Car and Driver in which they fell in love with all the torque, but found out that at highway speeds you have to plan two car lengths ahead if you want to pass as the power at higher rpms just isn't there (210 hp, all the torque is given in the first two gears). This car will be a welcomed site to those Europeans where gasoline is more per gallon than diesel, but in the States it just doesn't add up for me, unless your one of those people that loves to brag about every single mpg you get per tank no matter how much you paid to get it.
There is also a review of a GLK BlueTEC in the newest Car and Driver in which they fell in love with all the torque, but found out that at highway speeds you have to plan two car lengths ahead if you want to pass as the power at higher rpms just isn't there (210 hp, all the torque is given in the first two gears). This car will be a welcomed site to those Europeans where gasoline is more per gallon than diesel, but in the States it just doesn't add up for me, unless your one of those people that loves to brag about every single mpg you get per tank no matter how much you paid to get it.
Only 6.6 litres of oil is used in the 2008 220 CDi . Urea is basically a common fertilizer so the tank will be very cheap to fill.
What a major problem having to plan 2 car lengths ahead to overtake . If one drives like this, economy is not a factor in your decision to buy a fuel saving car anyway.
GM, Ford & Chrysler are in deep financial difficulty simply because that they have not produced fuel efficient smaller vehicles in these times of realisation that petrol & diesel fuel supply in finite.To counter this in Australia GMH are planning to introduce some diesel powered vehicles . Ford has introduced the Belguim made diesel Mondeo .
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That was my initial reaction too.
Question is "how well would a manual transmission diesel" be accepted is probably the issue they're testing.
I think what helps the '08 C cars get good highway mileage is that it doesn't go into 7th gear (automatic) till around 53-55 miles per hour. Since most of us drive at 72-75 when possible, could they not add an 8th gear that kicks in at that level to reduce the engine RPM???? or would that not work?
Question is "how well would a manual transmission diesel" be accepted is probably the issue they're testing.
I think what helps the '08 C cars get good highway mileage is that it doesn't go into 7th gear (automatic) till around 53-55 miles per hour. Since most of us drive at 72-75 when possible, could they not add an 8th gear that kicks in at that level to reduce the engine RPM???? or would that not work?
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...This car will be a welcomed site to those Europeans where gasoline is more per gallon than diesel, but in the States it just doesn't add up for me, unless your one of those people that loves to brag about every single mpg you get per tank no matter how much you paid to get it.
I'll be first in line to buy a diesel C-class in the US as soon as I can.
I only wish they'd give us the Estate!