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Yeah, dealers overfill 4matics, I have spoken with all the service techs and everything at my dealership telling them about the issue, but they claim that it still take 8.5 quarts... It's so silly. Also, I asked to buy a bottle of the official 5w-40 oil that only dealers get (without the ESP protection for diesels) and they tried to give me the ESP one, saying its what they use!
This is exactly why I don't go to dealers for service. It's not their car, so they don't care. Plus, I might as well do it myself, learn about the car, and save money. Not to mention that my engine bay isn't as filthy. Also, I seem to be missing the rear air filter clip that the 2011 has on my 2009... But I'm not shocked...
This is exactly why I don't go to dealers for service. It's not their car, so they don't care. Plus, I might as well do it myself, learn about the car, and save money. Not to mention that my engine bay isn't as filthy. Also, I seem to be missing the rear air filter clip that the 2011 has on my 2009... But I'm not shocked...
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From: Illinois
'08 C300 4Matic Sport, '02 530i
Haha... on that topic, I called my local dealer to ask which oil they use. They said M1 0w-40. But their invoice said Mobile ESP. Go figure. They can't even spell Mobil right.
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Yeah, dealers overfill 4matics, I have spoken with all the service techs and everything at my dealership telling them about the issue, but they claim that it still take 8.5 quarts... It's so silly. Also, I asked to buy a bottle of the official 5w-40 oil that only dealers get (without the ESP protection for diesels) and they tried to give me the ESP one, saying its what they use! ...
Early manuals 08, maybe 09, stated all took 8.5Q's.
Based on local MB dealer here, and your comment and other's, MB no longer treats diesel and gas engine oils differently, going back to an old, single oil philosopy. In this case ESP for all! M1 says it's good for both engines:
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40 --- FOR ALL !!
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Last edited by kevink2; Oct 24, 2011 at 04:23 PM.
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From: Illinois
'08 C300 4Matic Sport, '02 530i
Based on local MB dealer here, and your comment and other's, MB no longer treats diesel and gas engine oils differently, going back to an old, single oil philosopy. In this case ESP for all! M1 says it's good for both engines:
Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40
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Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W-40
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The ESP UOA reports I've seen weren't very impressive.
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Sounds bad. Will have to see what "Dr Glen" has to say about the SAP effect. Mobil 1 claims from link:
-> Outstanding thermal and oxidation stability
-> Helps to reduce oil aging allowing extended drain interval protection
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-> Outstanding thermal and oxidation stability
-> Helps to reduce oil aging allowing extended drain interval protection
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From: kmcmurray2@***.net To: KevinK2, Subject: Re: Mercedes adaptor Part # PR381Q
Date: May 24, 2011 11:16 AM...
Large orders are welcome and preferred !!
Thanks again for the order and spreading the word about our products !
Thanks,
Kevin McMurray
---- KevinK2 wrote:
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> Kevin,
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> I bought one from you and it works great. A few questions:
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> 1) do you still sell it to individuals, ie just 1 unit?
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> 2) I'm in a MB forum, I recomended this part in the "oil change" thread, but lately people say you don't return calls or emails.
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> 3) would you sell lots of 10, 20, etc, to an independent mercedes shop?
>
>
Date: May 24, 2011 11:16 AM...
Large orders are welcome and preferred !!
Thanks again for the order and spreading the word about our products !
Thanks,
Kevin McMurray
---- KevinK2 wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> I bought one from you and it works great. A few questions:
>
> 1) do you still sell it to individuals, ie just 1 unit?
>
> 2) I'm in a MB forum, I recomended this part in the "oil change" thread, but lately people say you don't return calls or emails.
>
> 3) would you sell lots of 10, 20, etc, to an independent mercedes shop?
>
>
Any ideas?
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I just called their number, spoke to someone in sales and gave them my credit card number. Part came a week later. Works excellent.
Did you try calling a few times....I think I had to call twice to get someone on the line.
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Will do. Thanks.
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Yes -
can't get provide any more info in my email than they asked:
We return all calls and emails provided they leave a name,call back #, and reason for the call. If they leave a message or email without that info we do not call back assuming it is a sales call.
can't get provide any more info in my email than they asked:
We return all calls and emails provided they leave a name,call back #, and reason for the call. If they leave a message or email without that info we do not call back assuming it is a sales call.
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2008 C300 Sport, RWD, US
Anybody having problems with their MityVac?
I can get mine to suck as long as I'm pumping but I thought that once you got the oil flowing it would continue until it filled up the container.
At one time, I did overfill the MityVac and I think that's when my problem started.
I can get mine to suck as long as I'm pumping but I thought that once you got the oil flowing it would continue until it filled up the container.
At one time, I did overfill the MityVac and I think that's when my problem started.
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2004 Mazda6, 1993 RX7
Anybody having problems with their MityVac?
I can get mine to suck as long as I'm pumping but I thought that once you got the oil flowing it would continue until it filled up the container.
At one time, I did overfill the MityVac and I think that's when my problem started.
I can get mine to suck as long as I'm pumping but I thought that once you got the oil flowing it would continue until it filled up the container.
At one time, I did overfill the MityVac and I think that's when my problem started.
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2004 Mazda6, 1993 RX7
Look around:
Jabsco 12V or 120 volt bilge pumps. http://www.jabscoshop.com/
Nyca has a combo jabsco pump and oil container, but the pump is too small (4A) or too restricted at the connections to flow quickly.
I have a 12V 6amp bilge pump, currently used for a spare sump-pump back-up in the basement. Prior use was to evacuate oil at the turbo's oil outlet for a 924-Turbo track car.
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Jabsco 12V or 120 volt bilge pumps. http://www.jabscoshop.com/
Nyca has a combo jabsco pump and oil container, but the pump is too small (4A) or too restricted at the connections to flow quickly.
I have a 12V 6amp bilge pump, currently used for a spare sump-pump back-up in the basement. Prior use was to evacuate oil at the turbo's oil outlet for a 924-Turbo track car.
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Last edited by kevink2; Nov 21, 2011 at 10:58 AM.
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'08 C300 MM Pano
Anybody having problems with their MityVac?
I can get mine to suck as long as I'm pumping but I thought that once you got the oil flowing it would continue until it filled up the container.
At one time, I did overfill the MityVac and I think that's when my problem started.
I can get mine to suck as long as I'm pumping but I thought that once you got the oil flowing it would continue until it filled up the container.
At one time, I did overfill the MityVac and I think that's when my problem started.
The reservoir tank of the Fluid Evacuator Plus is equipped with an automatic shut-off valve to prevent over-filling of the reservoir tank. As the fluid being evacuated flows into the reservoir tank it will raise the float. When the float reaches the shut-off valve, the flow of fluid being extracted will automatically stop.
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Thanks for responding.
I'm pretty sure that it over filled as oil was going into the top hose that goes to the valve.
But what you say about the connector makes a lot of sense. Mine is setup with the rubber reducer/connector and it may have been partially sucking air.
You said that you went to using a single hose. Will that larger hose go down the oil dipstick tube?????
Instead of pouring the oil out of the mityvac, I pumped it out using just the larger hose. It was a lot faster and didn't require all the pumping.
I'm pretty sure that it over filled as oil was going into the top hose that goes to the valve.
But what you say about the connector makes a lot of sense. Mine is setup with the rubber reducer/connector and it may have been partially sucking air.
You said that you went to using a single hose. Will that larger hose go down the oil dipstick tube?????
Instead of pouring the oil out of the mityvac, I pumped it out using just the larger hose. It was a lot faster and didn't require all the pumping.
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'08 C300 MM Pano
I am thinking of getting a longer hose and one that is a bit more flexible than the ones that come with the Mityvac.
. So next time, I think I'm just going to take the MityVac there and empty it out of the spout on top directly into the tank!! Heck, if I'm going to do it myself, I'm gonna do it MY WAY 
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2008 C300 4Matic Sportretired teacher/professor
Service indicator light turn off?
I am a first time MB owner and am trying to figure out all the bells and whistles. Question: Does a service needed or equivalent message illuminate when an oil change is due, and if so, how do you turn it off? I have owned BMW's, a Lexus, and they all have some secret method of shutting the light off so you feel you must go to the dealer for service.
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C300
Drain Plug
Hi everyone,
so has anyone here actually tried draining the traditional way? I have a small ramp (9 inches high) I use for my e46 oil changes, but seems a bit small for the W204 C300 and I can't quite get in there and find the drain plug.
Can anyone help out?
Much much appreciated
so has anyone here actually tried draining the traditional way? I have a small ramp (9 inches high) I use for my e46 oil changes, but seems a bit small for the W204 C300 and I can't quite get in there and find the drain plug.
Can anyone help out?
Much much appreciated
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for ten years in two MBs.
Yes, it does get it all out.
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C300
Thank you so much for your help in advance
Bobby
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With that said, there is nothing wrong with draining the oil the old traditional way.
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Actually, I haven't even tried to stick the hose that far into the dip stick tube. I simply used one of the rubber adapters stuck the hose in it, and stuck that at the top end of the dipstick tube... Sort of similar to those who purchased and used the FluidEvacuators metal adapter. Worked fine for me
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