Argh! OEM tires STINK in the snow!
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From: Waldfischbach-Bergalben, Germany
2008 MB C300 Sport (Mars Red)
Argh! OEM tires STINK in the snow!
My C300 came with 17" M+S tires, but I lose almost ALL traction in even two inches of snow. I live on a slight incline and can't make it to my driveway without shoveling out a pathway for my car to make it to the drive.
To make it worse, the traction control takes away so much control over the rear tires that it's virtually useless if you're in a slick. In addition, I found out that the ABS doesn't work when you're sliding backwards! Wow! I almost hit a lightpole tonight...
Anyone else having these problems? Any ideas other than getting snow tires?
To make it worse, the traction control takes away so much control over the rear tires that it's virtually useless if you're in a slick. In addition, I found out that the ABS doesn't work when you're sliding backwards! Wow! I almost hit a lightpole tonight...
Anyone else having these problems? Any ideas other than getting snow tires?
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My C300 came with 17" M+S tires, but I lose almost ALL traction in even two inches of snow. I live on a slight incline and can't make it to my driveway without shoveling out a pathway for my car to make it to the drive.
To make it worse, the traction control takes away so much control over the rear tires that it's virtually useless if you're in a slick. In addition, I found out that the ABS doesn't work when you're sliding backwards! Wow! I almost hit a lightpole tonight...
Anyone else having these problems? Any ideas other than getting snow tires?
To make it worse, the traction control takes away so much control over the rear tires that it's virtually useless if you're in a slick. In addition, I found out that the ABS doesn't work when you're sliding backwards! Wow! I almost hit a lightpole tonight...
Anyone else having these problems? Any ideas other than getting snow tires?
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ML 350-Black=Sold. New 08 C300 4Matic, Black/Black, P1, Ipod, Auto7speed, 10/10 hit 100,000 miles
I HAVE THE MICHELINS AND I HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY PROBLEMS. IN FACT I WAS THE ONLY VEHICLE TO MAKE IT UP A STEEP ICE AND SNOW COVERED DRIVE IN VERMONT, LAND ROVER AND SAAB suv"S COULDN'T.
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I have the same opinion of the Continentals. Dry traction is ok, but wet traction does not inspire confidence.
My reference is a corner out here where I live, and when it was raining like crazy here a few weeks back I had a chance to drive our other car on the same 225/255 staggered setup but on the Yokohama S-Drives.
The Yokohamas had a more controlled slip, and the Continentals would (abruptly) break free from the corner. The ESP of course compensates and keeps the car pointed where it should. In both "tests" I was on the gas coming out of the corner, and the road was wet.
The other car is a Sport/Premium 328i. This is 3.0l like my C300. The ESP programming could be different in both cars so take it for what it's worth.
Just my non-scientific observation.
Regards,
Paolo
My reference is a corner out here where I live, and when it was raining like crazy here a few weeks back I had a chance to drive our other car on the same 225/255 staggered setup but on the Yokohama S-Drives.
The Yokohamas had a more controlled slip, and the Continentals would (abruptly) break free from the corner. The ESP of course compensates and keeps the car pointed where it should. In both "tests" I was on the gas coming out of the corner, and the road was wet.
The other car is a Sport/Premium 328i. This is 3.0l like my C300. The ESP programming could be different in both cars so take it for what it's worth.
Just my non-scientific observation.
Regards,
Paolo
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From: Waldfischbach-Bergalben, Germany
2008 MB C300 Sport (Mars Red)
Yeah, I have the Conti's, too. I'm not impressed. I'm hoping the treadwear is quick on them so I have an excuse to get something new.
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From: Colorado
2008 C350 Sport, 2007 ML320 CDI
I have the Michelin tires, and my snow traction has been amazing for a RWD car. I recently found myself having to go up a snowpacked "Vail Pass" in the Colorado mountains last week. I was a bit hesitant at first, but quickly realized that I'd have no trouble.
It's your tires. We had Conti's on our ML320 CDI. I refused to drive that thing in snow until we put new tires on it.
It's your tires. We had Conti's on our ML320 CDI. I refused to drive that thing in snow until we put new tires on it.
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From: Diamond Bar, CA
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i'm curious for those that lives in area that snows regularly that why didn't you guys consider 4matic? other than if you want a C350 instead of C300 which obviously C350 4matic isn't available in states.
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Same here, Michelins are much better...
I have the Michelin tires, and my snow traction has been amazing for a RWD car. I recently found myself having to go up a snowpacked "Vail Pass" in the Colorado mountains last week. I was a bit hesitant at first, but quickly realized that I'd have no trouble.
It's your tires. We had Conti's on our ML320 CDI. I refused to drive that thing in snow until we put new tires on it.
It's your tires. We had Conti's on our ML320 CDI. I refused to drive that thing in snow until we put new tires on it.
If I lived in an area with loads of snow and was concerned with low ground clearance I would definitely give the 4MATIC due consideration. As it turns out for me, I am glad the RWD + Michelins work well enough as I wanted a US spec C350 and did not want the cost and lowered performance that come with the 4MATIC.
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2008 C300 Sport, RWD, US
Oh great.
My Michilins are hard riding and I was looking forward to getting the Conti's when they wear out. Now it looks like I should avoid the Conti's and stay with Michilins.
My Michilins are hard riding and I was looking forward to getting the Conti's when they wear out. Now it looks like I should avoid the Conti's and stay with Michilins.
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From: Burlington, VT
2008 C300 Sport 6M
For me it was all about the stick shift, it was a must. RWD isn't great in the snow no matter what tire but if you take it slow it's managable, especially w a manual tranny.
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From: Twin Cities, MN
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Had same problem with stock conti's and staggered setup in snow over 2" on the 6% slope coming into our neighborhood. Went to Michelins X-Ice and new Momo wheels from Discount and life is great, though the offset was not perfect for the 205/55R16 setup. The handling is great through this snowy cold snap that has left black ice all over the cities.
As an aside, I got a laugh listening to an Audi club instructor being interviewed about counter steering in a spin. The host was clueless and the Audi guy reacted with a yougottobekiddingdon'ttrythiswithoutpractice kind of tone. This made me think of the soccer mom in a Chevy SUV that I saw put her vehicle into a spin in the slow lane on a straight stretch of freeway during rush hour two days ago. Why do so many drivers wait until dissaster to test the road handling of their vehicles and improve their skills?
As an aside, I got a laugh listening to an Audi club instructor being interviewed about counter steering in a spin. The host was clueless and the Audi guy reacted with a yougottobekiddingdon'ttrythiswithoutpractice kind of tone. This made me think of the soccer mom in a Chevy SUV that I saw put her vehicle into a spin in the slow lane on a straight stretch of freeway during rush hour two days ago. Why do so many drivers wait until dissaster to test the road handling of their vehicles and improve their skills?
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I have Nokian Hakka 5 on my '08 C230 and traction is still crappy (and I stay polite). It's the first time even that I drive a car where the traction control kicks in when I'm driving on a flat straight line just because I hit a bit of snow (and not even accelerating or doing anything stupid). 
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From: Toronto
C300 Sport
Coming from Subaru where snow is the specialty, I've learned it's all about tires. Rwd with no season tires will suck in snow. Awd with no season tires will suck also when braking or making ememergency manuver. If u live in a snowy area do us all a favor and put on a set of winters or just take ur winter car out.
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From: Long Island, NY
'08 C300 Sport White w/ P2 MM & Pano
I really hate the stock Continentals. I have quite a few miles on them but they're definitely not worn out. And yet, the other day I was merging on to the highway at about 30 mph, it was snowing and there was maybe an inch on the ground. Next thing you know my car is spinning out of control, and I end up halfway on the shoulder diagonally facing oncoming traffic. On the freaking highway. I was extremely lucky there were no cars around me and the car actually stopped abruptly a few inches away from a small hill.
That being said, I am going to get new tires this week. I had Michelin PS2's on my W203 so I'm thinking I'll go back to those. Can anyone recommend anything else from experience?
That being said, I am going to get new tires this week. I had Michelin PS2's on my W203 so I'm thinking I'll go back to those. Can anyone recommend anything else from experience?
