qwqwerertyty

I'm very confused..

I know euro spec w204s have a button on the door right in between the left and right mirror buttons to fold the mirrors, but US specs (or at least mine) don't.
( see this pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/2007_Mercedes-Benz_C300_Avantgarde_(W204)_interior_01.jpg )

so I automatically assumed that this is one of the many functions that we don't get here in the US. however, apparently, according to many forum members they do have folding mirrors.

myinternetsucks told me theres an option to enable it using the steering wheel buttons on the cluster, but mine doesn't seem to have that option.

is it just me? whats going on??
my C is 2009 and has P2, if that makes a difference...

imboom

My 08 C350 with P2 has both folding mirror button and the menu option to set it to fold when I lock the doors.

FrankW

they removed it as standard and option on the 2009. apparently because they get too many people complaining about it making creaking noise and wanted to have dealer replace them under warranty, so MBUSA like the jerkwads they are took it out.

Nuru

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...de-mirror.html

Ron Jr

As Frank said it was removed from the US market in 09 but you got memory seats in their place.

TB5...

^ damn... really eh... i have both... that is really awkward.

so rather than fix the problem they just got rid of it... lol.

sameer13

We have both in Canada. Memery seats and folding mirrors.

Ron Jr

Someone high up thought memory seats were not needed on US cars in 08.

patrickkc

yea, folding mirrors are stock in canada, except for the C230s.

QQQ

Coz US customers keep complaining, MBUSA silences them once and for all.

Canadians bite the bullet and continue to enjoy nice features...

phatboypimp

How dare us Americans expect high quality products.....

Savage c-300

yea i guess we expect to much from a Mercedes....

qwqwerertyty

thats a great way to solve the problem. delete it..

Nuru

Well they also could merge with other German Car Companies:

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/ne...?news_id=19133

They already share some parts amongst the brands.

RLE

Actually, memory seat, since the right seat does not have memory, standard or optional.

In the US, that is.

Nuru

how well does that work for you?

RLE

Since you brought it up, here is the latest on the takeover of VW by Porsche. The last sentence is the best.

Lower Saxony firm on keeping its blocking power at VW

Volkswagen’s second-largest shareholder insisted on keeping its blocking minority in a merger with Porsche on Thursday after an agreement by the family owners had reversed the balance of power between the two carmakers.
The billionaire Piëch and Porsche family clans had clinched an agreement on Wednesday to create an “integrated car manufacturer”, with Porsche as the 10th marque beside VW’s brands.

This sounded the death knell to the sports carmaker’s 3½-year attempt to gain full control of Europe’s largest carmaker. It also put Ferdinand Piëch, the hardnosed patriarch and VW chairman, back in the driving seat in the power struggle surrounding one of the world’s most influential and rich automotive dynasties.

Christian Wulff, head of the Lower State of Saxony, which owns just more than 20 per cent of Volkswagen, told the Financial Times he welcomed the decision to start talks about integrating Porsche and Volkswagen.
“But we put emphasis on having our rights – the blocking minority, two seats on the board and the veto on plant closures – secured,” Mr Wulff said.

Lower Saxony holds a veto on VW’s strategic and operational decisions, so the Christian Democratic politician is one who could tip the scales in the merger talks.

His words came a day after the Porsche clan had brought arguably the most audacious takeover attempt in the German car industry to a rather inglorious end.

In 2005, Porsche started to buy shares in Volkswagen, a carmaker whose revenues are 16 times larger.

But after having overreached itself in lifting its stake to more than 50 per cent this January, which created a €9bn ($12bn) debt load and resulted in an almost failed refinancing seven weeks ago, it became clear Porsche’s dreams to dominate the northern German carmaker had evaporated.

On Wednesday, the families decided on a very rough draft to integrate Porsche and Volkswagen, in a decision that was far from supportive for Wendelin Wiedeking, Porsche’s headstrong chief executive.

Mr Wiedeking and Holger Härter, the chief financial officer, had planned quite a different outcome to the clan gathering near the Austrian Alps, which was attended by five family members and Ulrich Lehner, a former Heinkel manager who acts as the neutral force on the supervisory board of Porsche.

The managers knew Wolfgang Porsche, the sportscar maker’s chairman, would be on their side. They had hoped for – and geared their communication strategy towards – the family giving them a mandate to negotiate with Mr Wulff on an equal footing.

In the run-up to the meeting, Mr Porsche had clashed with Mr Piëch on how to bail out the debt-ridden sports carmaker.

But Mr Wiedeking had misjudged the power of Mr Piëch, grandson of Ferdinand Porsche, the designer of the VW Beetle and founder of the sports car makers’ precursor.

Determined to reunite his family legacy, Mr Piëch used his influence and Porsche’s weakness to strike a deal more to his own taste.

“You should never ever underestimate Mr Piëch. I knew he was going to make a comeback one day,” said the chief executive of a large German automotive group.

Under the agreement, Porsche’s management will now have to share the negotiating power with Volkswagen’s executives, as well as Mr Piëch and Mr Porsche.

The aim is to absorb Porsche into a new group – which comes close to Mr Piëch’s initial idea to buy the sports car business of the Porsche holding.

“There is little doubt that Piëch . . . has had his position enhanced by this deal,” said Tim Urquhart, analyst at IHS Global Insight. He said the agreement was “face-saving” for Mr Wiedeking and Mr Porsche.

“It would have further weakened their position if VW had been seen as coming to Porsche’s rescue by acquiring the company’s sports car business,” Mr Urquhart said.

It looks also clear that the future power centre of the group will be Wolfsburg, at VW’s headquarters.

Insiders said the merger process could stretch well into the next year and involve a capital increase of up to €4.5bn at Porsche to relieve it from part of the debt burden. The biggest conundrum circles round the more than 20 per cent in VW options Porsche that still holds.

Porsche considers them as a big asset that should be brought into the new group. But the question is how they could be sold without causing a collapse of VW’s take-over-inflated share price.

The other danger is that VW, seen as a fairly resilient economic powerhouse, will be distracted with the merger at a time when demand in the worldwide car markets in free fall.

A senior person involved in the talks said the Porsche clan had reacted far too slowly: “The family has led Porsche as if it was a large bakery and not a multibillion-revenue carmaker.”

RLE

Work? It doesn't since my '08 has neither. And I don't like it since memory seats showed up in 1985 in the 190E. For $1400 extra then and became standard a few years later.