NEW MiRRORS INSTALLED
06-21-2009, 10:54 PM
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Have you guys ever seen the mirrors on the Murcielago??BTW, I see that you have a white car with a black interior....but as long as ur happy.
06-21-2009, 10:58 PM
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Awaken fold?
"Since they are the Euro versions, they retain power folding plus heat and self dimming so no 2008 function is lost."
My car came with those mirrors but not with that function. Do you know if it is code update or do we require additional motors to achieve the power fold.
My car came with those mirrors but not with that function. Do you know if it is code update or do we require additional motors to achieve the power fold.
06-21-2009, 11:11 PM
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@RLE -- do you find the mirrors to be noticeable smaller than the MY'08 ones? Also, does it fold in tighter against the body? I find that the "elephant ears" stick out a lot even after folding in (for parking).
06-22-2009, 03:23 AM
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drive the car with mirrors folded and then drive the car with it extended. the difference in noise is very clear unless you can't hear very well. you don't even have to go very fast before the wind noise caused by the mirror to be noticeable.
06-22-2009, 06:34 AM
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It's amusing - I have the DVD of them endurance testing the 204 in Namibia long before the launch. One of the test drivers complains of wind noise & rustle - A huge German development engineer shouts at him "It can't be the f@@xyzg mirrors" - Well we all now know it was 
06-22-2009, 11:49 AM
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2009 C300S 6mt
and i have a MY09.
06-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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imo... i will take the wind noise over those side view mirrors... horrible design especially where the lit area is concerned... inferior looking... over extended from the body of the car... overall awkward.
clearly tho you don't care... unless the posts are praising your mirrors.
clearly tho you don't care... unless the posts are praising your mirrors.
06-22-2009, 02:40 PM
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i'm sure the noise is there and evident. just that we have different tolerances.
like for me, i didn't notice the noise at first. but after all the frills and happiness wore off, and having driven the car for over a week, it's starting to really be noticeable to me.
it could also be that you have your AC on auto/blast which drowns out some of the noise. try driving the car with AC/radio off and i'm sure you'll hear it..
like for me, i didn't notice the noise at first. but after all the frills and happiness wore off, and having driven the car for over a week, it's starting to really be noticeable to me.
it could also be that you have your AC on auto/blast which drowns out some of the noise. try driving the car with AC/radio off and i'm sure you'll hear it..
06-22-2009, 03:12 PM
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imo... i will take the wind noise over those side view mirrors... horrible design especially where the lit area is concerned... inferior looking... over extended from the body of the car... overall awkward.
clearly tho you don't care... unless the posts are praising your mirrors.
clearly tho you don't care... unless the posts are praising your mirrors.
(the white colour and black lighting area compliment each other) I have pic....here it is:
see?
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06-22-2009, 03:28 PM
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i think it looks weak... no offence to the thread starter or anyone else... black and white will look better on the eyes of course... but
once again the area that lights up looks terribly made... the pitch fork shape does nothing for the design of the car... no flow at all ( the longer lower portion...why?... the joined area around the curve)... then there are the segments in the lighted area which imo are unnecessary and look way too plasticy and the light seems to be brighter in some areas then others not consistent at all... and finally where the housing and the transparent area meet looks unfinished... seems like this was a concept design that should never have seen the light of day...
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once again the area that lights up looks terribly made... the pitch fork shape does nothing for the design of the car... no flow at all ( the longer lower portion...why?... the joined area around the curve)... then there are the segments in the lighted area which imo are unnecessary and look way too plasticy and the light seems to be brighter in some areas then others not consistent at all... and finally where the housing and the transparent area meet looks unfinished... seems like this was a concept design that should never have seen the light of day...
/rant
06-22-2009, 04:34 PM
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i think it looks weak... no offence to the thread starter or anyone else... black and white will look better on the eyes of course... but
once again the area that lights up looks terribly made... the pitch fork shape does nothing for the design of the car... no flow at all ( the longer lower portion...why?... the joined area around the curve)... then there are the segments in the lighted area which imo are unnecessary and look way too plasticy and the light seems to be brighter in some areas then others not consistent at all... and finally where the housing and the transparent area meet looks unfinished... seems like this was a concept design that should never have seen the light of day...
/rant
once again the area that lights up looks terribly made... the pitch fork shape does nothing for the design of the car... no flow at all ( the longer lower portion...why?... the joined area around the curve)... then there are the segments in the lighted area which imo are unnecessary and look way too plasticy and the light seems to be brighter in some areas then others not consistent at all... and finally where the housing and the transparent area meet looks unfinished... seems like this was a concept design that should never have seen the light of day...
/rant
and you are judging this from a picture without seeing it in person?
talking about designs. as if the old mirror's giant chrome piece does anything to help the car look better. it looks so good that most people decide to cover it up with the Brabus style CF mirror cover, right?
also keep in mind that the "new" mirror's turn signal style is used for almost all the model line up. it's sleeker and less bulky than what we have right now.
06-22-2009, 05:04 PM
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well ya... that is all from just a few pictures :\
in person it may look better or worse... of course.
yea the original ones are a bit big... but other than that they are well designed...
the upper section like you said can easily be tinted... or covered (carbon fiber for example)... being able to customize it only integrates it more with the rest of the car... especially since others areas of the car are probably done in carbon fiber as well... and once it's covered... it leaves a clean line for the indicator... giving that sleek effect.
from the looks of tha new design... very very sadly... you wont be able to customize at all...
and even untouched the OG mirrors itself mimics the eyelids and headlights... the shape even flows well with the car as it tapers towards the end of the housing.
i mean all you can say for the new design is that its "sleek" meaning nothing more than it's relatively smaller...
in person it may look better or worse... of course.
yea the original ones are a bit big... but other than that they are well designed...
the upper section like you said can easily be tinted... or covered (carbon fiber for example)... being able to customize it only integrates it more with the rest of the car... especially since others areas of the car are probably done in carbon fiber as well... and once it's covered... it leaves a clean line for the indicator... giving that sleek effect.
from the looks of tha new design... very very sadly... you wont be able to customize at all...
and even untouched the OG mirrors itself mimics the eyelids and headlights... the shape even flows well with the car as it tapers towards the end of the housing.
i mean all you can say for the new design is that its "sleek" meaning nothing more than it's relatively smaller...
06-22-2009, 05:53 PM
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I also have old mirrors in my car.
When ask for changing with new ones, the answer was "not recommended" because not fit well,the noise will be similar and fuel consumption. (New mirrors also made to correct this point too).
Also there is other base to screw the new mirrors on the body of the car, in new C versions.
Unfortunately for old owners new mirror design will be standard as fashion too for many Mercedes models from now to the future.Look for example new E class too.
When ask for changing with new ones, the answer was "not recommended" because not fit well,the noise will be similar and fuel consumption. (New mirrors also made to correct this point too).
Also there is other base to screw the new mirrors on the body of the car, in new C versions.
Unfortunately for old owners new mirror design will be standard as fashion too for many Mercedes models from now to the future.Look for example new E class too.
06-22-2009, 06:21 PM
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well ya... that is all from just a few pictures :\
in person it may look better or worse... of course.
yea the original ones are a bit big... but other than that they are well designed...
the upper section like you said can easily be tinted... or covered (carbon fiber for example)... being able to customize it only integrates it more with the rest of the car... especially since others areas of the car are probably done in carbon fiber as well... and once it's covered... it leaves a clean line for the indicator... giving that sleek effect.
from the looks of tha new design... very very sadly... you wont be able to customize at all...
and even untouched the OG mirrors itself mimics the eyelids and headlights... the shape even flows well with the car as it tapers towards the end of the housing.
i mean all you can say for the new design is that its "sleek" meaning nothing more than it's relatively smaller...
in person it may look better or worse... of course.
yea the original ones are a bit big... but other than that they are well designed...
the upper section like you said can easily be tinted... or covered (carbon fiber for example)... being able to customize it only integrates it more with the rest of the car... especially since others areas of the car are probably done in carbon fiber as well... and once it's covered... it leaves a clean line for the indicator... giving that sleek effect.
from the looks of tha new design... very very sadly... you wont be able to customize at all...
and even untouched the OG mirrors itself mimics the eyelids and headlights... the shape even flows well with the car as it tapers towards the end of the housing.
i mean all you can say for the new design is that its "sleek" meaning nothing more than it's relatively smaller...
when something has a "good" design, all you need is to clean it up. i.e. the W203 mirrors. the only change was needed was redesigning the signal from foggy to clear.
edit: BMW does it much better in this department. The facelifted E90 has the new mirror being bigger, but it still has an aerodynamic shape that does not create a lot of wind noise.
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06-22-2009, 06:41 PM
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Sorry I don't like them, but if you do that is all that is important. I went to the LI preview of the E class last tuesday and it's side views are similar if not the same and I felt it was one of the weeker design elements, as well as the LED foglight (Quad fogs looked much nicer).
06-22-2009, 07:05 PM
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At the end of the day it's personal preference. I think both have their strong points, but I would much rather have these without the wind noise than the larger ones - luckily we get the new mirrors for 2009 builds in the UK. Good job on changing them.
06-22-2009, 07:50 PM
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Lots of sour grapes on this thread from people who don't want to accept that the design of their cars is ageing.
