ctgilles eyelid LED feedback thread.
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Geez this eyebrow true white craze is still going huh, well am happy with mine so far from ctgilles first GB post with the single 90deg led, but it does flicker not crazy but when its hot out i've noticed it...but more white than blue or purple i tell ya that much. But am still waiting around for that perfect one, keep trying guys ;-)
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after 3 sets and about 200$ im done with this now...
i'll either try to get a pair through warranty or just run one led in the eyelids... it looks better than i thought not too blue when one one bulb is lit... and also the whole eyelid housing pretty much lights up... no biggie.
i'll either try to get a pair through warranty or just run one led in the eyelids... it looks better than i thought not too blue when one one bulb is lit... and also the whole eyelid housing pretty much lights up... no biggie.
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The big question is why ctgilles said this:
Quote ctgilles:
"Once the car warms up, these 4300K LEDs turn purple and the 5000K do not change color."
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Quote vic viper:
"The new 5000K LED you have tried, have you tried them for a longer period to verify they doesnt change?"
Quote ctgilles:
"Yes, had the car in the sun then took it for a drive. Light color remained the same"
Quote ctgilles:
"Once the car warms up, these 4300K LEDs turn purple and the 5000K do not change color."
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Quote vic viper:
"The new 5000K LED you have tried, have you tried them for a longer period to verify they doesnt change?"
Quote ctgilles:
"Yes, had the car in the sun then took it for a drive. Light color remained the same"
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vic, I had posted my findings with them and I also posted pictures in the other thread. I took it for spin on a sunny day and no real noticeable change.
But I don't like the agressive undertone you have there. I have not decieved you and this was "for my fellow forum users" for the help I got here numerous times. If I had known about this or the way you seem to hold me (partially) responsible, I wouldn't have organised it.
The problem seems to be the battery and its voltage. I bet if you keep it below 13.2V and heat it up, you will keep your color. My battery is quite low in voltage because I always do short runs. I have tested it, it's at 13.34V with just contact on (no engine start).
Sorry guys I have spent much money on LEDs too but they work for me and even if they would change to vic's color then I wouldn't mind. I'm just going to put some 6000K burners in the Zenons.
But I don't like the agressive undertone you have there. I have not decieved you and this was "for my fellow forum users" for the help I got here numerous times. If I had known about this or the way you seem to hold me (partially) responsible, I wouldn't have organised it.
The problem seems to be the battery and its voltage. I bet if you keep it below 13.2V and heat it up, you will keep your color. My battery is quite low in voltage because I always do short runs. I have tested it, it's at 13.34V with just contact on (no engine start).
Sorry guys I have spent much money on LEDs too but they work for me and even if they would change to vic's color then I wouldn't mind. I'm just going to put some 6000K burners in the Zenons.
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Yes I can understand why you are upset but I think the problem is the battery. A LED is used in so many things like computers and other electronics but in a car the power source is a "blunt" force: a battery. I bet if you use diodes and you are able to cap the max power to <13V you will see no change in color. Sorry I was just trying to help 
If you want to sell you can contact AZN_C300 or numerous other people and it will cover your losses.
I am already sorry for organizing this. Was just trying to help.
If you want to sell you can contact AZN_C300 or numerous other people and it will cover your losses.
I am already sorry for organizing this. Was just trying to help.
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Yes I can understand why you are upset but I think the problem is the battery. A LED is used in so many things like computers and other electronics but in a car the power source is a "blunt" force: a battery. I bet if you use diodes and you are able to cap the max power to <13V you will see no change in color. Sorry I was just trying to help
If you want to sell you can contact AZN_C300 or numerous other people and it will cover your losses.
I am already sorry for organizing this. Was just trying to help.
If you want to sell you can contact AZN_C300 or numerous other people and it will cover your losses.
I am already sorry for organizing this. Was just trying to help.
I guess I sort of am in the same position as I brought the 4300K LED up to the table, however, I clearly said that I only had time to test them very briefly as my own car hadnt arrived, and the group buy was completely without my involvement.
Its not the money that bothers me, the issue is that I asked you if they change and you said they didnt.
If I only had gotten a hint of they shifting color I would never have bought them and spent that time ordering Polargs instead.
The voltage may be the reason for this phenomenon, but if you had any suspicions about this you could have mentioned it before the group buy.
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gilles the only solution is a DIY soldering on a diode onto the circuit board!
and my bad vic... saw the line assumed it was the sig... you have every right to not be happy tho... im not to impressed either since one of mine blew.
gilles is just the easiest to blame... and that usually means he is not deserving of it.
and my bad vic... saw the line assumed it was the sig... you have every right to not be happy tho... im not to impressed either since one of mine blew.
gilles is just the easiest to blame... and that usually means he is not deserving of it.
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sooo ya here is the picture of the failing led... this is for no other reason than to let everyone who bought these leds know that this could happen.
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.............................they apparently get extremely hot
so now i just have to deal with the error for left and right lights as i'm only running 1 in each eyelid... looks better than the pics... the camera doesn't get the reflected light too well.
................................^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^.............................they apparently get extremely hot
so now i just have to deal with the error for left and right lights as i'm only running 1 in each eyelid... looks better than the pics... the camera doesn't get the reflected light too well.
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I haven't even received my LEDs yet. However, if they seem to change color just like the other LEDs then i dont even want them anymore. Instead i would like to get a full refund of my money because it seems everyone bought something that was not advertised including me. I would of never bought the LEDs if I knew they changed color. I am very dissapointed once again.
VIC if you could please direct me to those polargs you mentioned for the eyelids i would very much appreciate it!
VIC if you could please direct me to those polargs you mentioned for the eyelids i would very much appreciate it!
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I haven't even received my LEDs yet. However, if they seem to change color just like the other LEDs then i dont even want them anymore. Instead i would like to get a full refund of my money because it seems everyone bought something that was not advertised including me. I would of never bought the LEDs if I knew they changed color!
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I haven't even received my LEDs yet. However, if they seem to change color just like the other LEDs then i dont even want them anymore. Instead i would like to get a full refund of my money because it seems everyone bought something that was not advertised including me. I would of never bought the LEDs if I knew they changed color. I am very dissapointed once again.
ctgilles, the anger is not directed at you but at the manufacturer or the guy that sells them to you...
looks like he is not willing to take responsbility of warranty claim nor the change of color, we need a resolution soon...
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TB5 is getting a new LED, seems like those bottom resistors are frail I broke one because I went brute force on them and cracked it. It's possible that it broke when installing or removing and only gave the error later, but I am getting him a new LED.
Look I posted my results with pictures. From what I see they might change color but less than the other LEDs. Some people are happy, others aren't.
I am happy and have run them longer then anyone here, in a hot environment and with DRL on even going to the south of France next month with them and I am sure nothing will go wrong.
Getting your money back from the (Chinese) manufacturer is not a viable option. Same as with the Xenonkungen LEDs, these slight colorchanges are not warranted and are down to individual cars, if you hook them to 12V then I am sure nothing will happen and results seem to vary from car to car, from user to user.
This has been my last group buy for ever. Too much hassle and then an angry mob. If you don't like the LED, I am very sorry use them for number plate light or sell them to AZN_C300 or yarukc or GreenArcher85.
I'm just a student that tried to do good. But I am happy that some users are happy with their LEDs and I am sure that the others will find a solution or a buyer for their LEDs. It's an avalanche, like the third time we're not 100% happy so you guys are 300% angry at me. That's understandable but instead of all the bashing, just acknowledge too that I just tried to do good. And I did good for me, I am happy with my LEDs. It seems LEDs are not a solution for our W204s like they are for Audis.
Look I posted my results with pictures. From what I see they might change color but less than the other LEDs. Some people are happy, others aren't.
I am happy and have run them longer then anyone here, in a hot environment and with DRL on even going to the south of France next month with them and I am sure nothing will go wrong.
Getting your money back from the (Chinese) manufacturer is not a viable option. Same as with the Xenonkungen LEDs, these slight colorchanges are not warranted and are down to individual cars, if you hook them to 12V then I am sure nothing will happen and results seem to vary from car to car, from user to user.
This has been my last group buy for ever. Too much hassle and then an angry mob. If you don't like the LED, I am very sorry use them for number plate light or sell them to AZN_C300 or yarukc or GreenArcher85.
I'm just a student that tried to do good. But I am happy that some users are happy with their LEDs and I am sure that the others will find a solution or a buyer for their LEDs. It's an avalanche, like the third time we're not 100% happy so you guys are 300% angry at me. That's understandable but instead of all the bashing, just acknowledge too that I just tried to do good. And I did good for me, I am happy with my LEDs. It seems LEDs are not a solution for our W204s like they are for Audis.
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I understand that you are dissapointed, but you cannot blame us for blaming you, the main reason for people ordering your LED.s was because of the color changing failure with the 4300K.s
A lot of people including me was glad to see the 5000K.s as they according to you would work and not change color at all.
Strange that a lot of people who has gotten their LED.s are noticing a color change almost immidiately, but you still havnt seen anything?
A lot of people including me was glad to see the 5000K.s as they according to you would work and not change color at all.
Strange that a lot of people who has gotten their LED.s are noticing a color change almost immidiately, but you still havnt seen anything?
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I am dissapointed too, the pictures I provided were my results and again I am quite happy with them. You are not happy and that's why I'm feeling bad about this just like the other group buy (like you said - you feel responsible).
You can always sell your LED to another forum member or try a 6000K HID burner. I have now given up any hope of finding a LED solution that matches stock HID enough and that produces consistent results.
I will contact the manufacturer again, maybe they know a reason for this but I still do not understand why some people have more blue then others
Murphy's Law?
Yes, €60 on the first LEDs, €55 on Xenonkungen LEDs, €40 on various LEDs and resistors, €60 on these LEDs AND €100 on PIAA LEDs. And I'm a student without job... I don't care about the money but for me it was all about finding that golden one but I have given up on that.
I have second chance exams coming up and a month working at the Belgian Post. Going to set my mind on something else this is depressing because I want to just undo it if I had known about these inconsistent results.
You can always sell your LED to another forum member or try a 6000K HID burner. I have now given up any hope of finding a LED solution that matches stock HID enough and that produces consistent results.
I will contact the manufacturer again, maybe they know a reason for this but I still do not understand why some people have more blue then others
Murphy's Law?
Yes, €60 on the first LEDs, €55 on Xenonkungen LEDs, €40 on various LEDs and resistors, €60 on these LEDs AND €100 on PIAA LEDs. And I'm a student without job... I don't care about the money but for me it was all about finding that golden one but I have given up on that.
I have second chance exams coming up and a month working at the Belgian Post. Going to set my mind on something else this is depressing because I want to just undo it if I had known about these inconsistent results.
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Getting your money back from the (Chinese) manufacturer is not a viable option.
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I haven't even received my LEDs yet. However, if they seem to change color just like the other LEDs then i dont even want them anymore. Instead i would like to get a full refund of my money because it seems everyone bought something that was not advertised including me. I would of never bought the LEDs if I knew they changed color. I am very dissapointed once again.
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