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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Is C300 really that slow?

That's all ive been hearing on this forum...the C300 is painfully and irritatingly slow...well that has me wondering...what about the owners of the early W211? in 03 when it was released, the V6 engine was the E320, with 221 hp, which is EVEN LESS than C300. In that heavy of a car, 221 hp is nowhere near enough, but 0-60 was 7.1 secs, same as C300. So whats soo bad about the C300? If it really is that slow, then i bet the owners of E320 are probably banging their heads on walls cuz they didnt opt for the V8
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:44 AM
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I think it is all a matter of perception. IMHO the C300 has enough power for normal everyday driving. The car isn't designed to be a powerhouse and do 0-60 in 4 seconds. The car is geared more toward a daily driver with a little bit of power on a sporty chassis. If you want more power go to the AMG- that is what it is designed for. If they offered the C63 in an AWD configuration I probably would have gotten it over my car. For some stupid reason I still live where it snows.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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My "04.5" C320 feels faster than the the loaner C300. Is the w203 much lighter than a w204?
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sincity
My "04.5" C320 feels faster than the the loaner C300. Is the w203 much lighter than a w204?
No, I doubt on paper it's much faster especially from a stop.

Would a 04.5 have the 5 G Tronic ? If so, at highway speed, putting your foot down, the 5Gtronic car would probably respond quicker.


I have a 2009 SLK 350 and 2008 C300. I enjoy driving the C300 almost as much. It's fast enough for everyday driving. I mean, it's faster than most rental cars I get too. What does speed mean at some point?

I say don't worry about it and enjoy.

Also cars in recent years have been getting more and more power, so that helps answer the one question why a E320 existed a few years ago. There has been a bit of a HP war lately among premium manufacturers in each class.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 02:31 AM
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Depends on what your idea of slow/fast is.

I think my C350 is slow. However, most people coming from a compact car with under 180hp will find the C300 very fast.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 02:31 AM
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It's interesting that everyone says the C300 is slow, I had one as a loner when my SL was in the A Service and I was suprised that it didn't seem like a slow poke. Mind you I had it in the sport mode, but it was relatively quick off the line and was definately better than expected.

Still beats all the other Japanese vehicles out there for the price and the prestige. IMHO I'd get one when my 03 BMW 530i dies...
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Its def noty quick! Off the line its terrible.. No pick up, has seriouse lag issues.. But I must say on the highway once I get goin it moves niicely.. I've hit 135 with eas.. Just the 0-60 asspect isn't too good
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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IMHO I think most people that say that are full of crap. It is certainly not a sports car but it is easily fast enough to get out of its own way. I understand that people who own and/or often drive very powerful cars can easily feel how much slower the C300 is than there own daily driver, but that does not make the C300 a "slow" car. For others, I think they just want to sound like they are accustomed to such fast cars that the C300 is below them.
Maybe I need to get my coffee before I start accusing people of being full of crap but oh well, there it is...

Edit: OK had my coffee...the only ones that may be full of crap are the ones that state "...the C300 is painfully and irritatingly slow..." not the ones that observe it is simply not a powerhouse.

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Some folks seem to believe that their own expert credentials are better preserved by offering criticism than by what may seem naive praise. Speed is such a relative matter that each driver will need to decide if they like C300 and whether the relative performance of other cars matters or not.

My C300, our previous W211, and current W2114MATIC are/were all more than satisfactory, and the C qualifies as fun. Absolute 0-60 speed is not my ultimate criteria for enjoying a car. My prior vehicle history includes more than one SRT8 vehicle and a reasonable amount of time with Vipers, so I get the thrill of the 5-second distance. But, there's much more to enjoying MB than how quickly one gets to 60mph...and the C300 more than delivers. But, if rapid acceleration is the high priority, get out your buff books and start checking stats for most acceleration for the dollar.....Mazdaspeed3? Caliber SRT4?
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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I haven't driven the auto-box but I imagine that most people who think the C300 is slow are using the auto as the baseline. I find my 6 speed to be pretty quick. It wouldn't surprise me if it was .3 or .4 seconds quicker to 60 than the auto. Definitely quicker than the 2005 325Ci I just got out of and quick enough to have some spirited driving.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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There is a disconnect between how the car looks and it's "fastness". The car looks like it has ~300hp under the hood with it's aggresive styling.

I'm one of those that came from a sport compact, a Subie Impreza with 175hp. The C300 feels quick enough ... but it is nowhere near as "tossable" as my old Subie in the corners. Otherwise, it's a huuuuge upgrade . I wonder what some bars and new tires could do to make the C300 handle sharper ...

Does it bug anyone else here that other V6's on the market are putting down a lot more power? ie. The Genesis' V6 is 290hp ...
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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I had one as a rental last week. Nowhere near as fast as my SL, but much faster than the usual rental fare like Mazda 3s, 6s, Toyota Corollas, Camrys, etc. I think the car has plenty of oomph for everyday use.

What surprised me the most was the lightness of the steering. Much lighter than my SL or the CLK I had before. The stereo sucked too.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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No. The genesis is a full size luxury car. I think the C300 is competitive in it's own class..although 250hp wouldn't hurt
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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I had one as a rental last week. Nowhere near as fast as my SL, but much faster than the usual rental fare like Mazda 3s, 6s, Toyota Corollas, Camrys, etc. I think the car has plenty of oomph for everyday use.

What surprised me the most was the lightness of the steering. Much lighter than my SL or the CLK I had before. The stereo sucked too.

I'm with you on the steering. That will always bother me to some extent. It does stiffen up quite a bit at high speeds though. It only lacks feel around town.

Oh well..I'll keep this car through college then get a Porsche to satisfy my sports car needs.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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I actually had the Gen Coupe in mind cuz that was what I test drove before I got my C300. But it's not so much about the car body, I was thinking more along the lines that companies like Hyundai and Chevy are selling cars with V6's with 290hp, 300hp etc... where as the V6 in our C300s have 60,70,80 less hp in some cases.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Nah..still doesn't really bother me. A. The Genesis is a sports car..B. You can't expect MB to be competitive with Hyundai.

The only real threat to the C300 is the G37 because that car IS pretty sick..and has 330hp..for the same price.

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:56 AM
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I should add that while I think 230hp for a base model is fine..I DO think the 268hp C350 is sad. They absolutely needed that to be 300+ hp to be competitive.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mac911
No, I doubt on paper it's much faster especially from a stop.

Would a 04.5 have the 5 G Tronic ? If so, at highway speed, putting your foot down, the 5Gtronic car would probably respond quicker.
I'm not sure what trans it has. Perhaps it is the gearing that made the 3.2 feel a littel quicker? The car just didn't feel it has the pickup from stoplight-to-stoplight.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:44 AM
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C300kid you're right. I think it's the obnoxious feeling of entitlement in me that has me thinking that since I have a Benz, it "should" own everything on the road

It makes me sad that I can get owned by a soccer mom in a Hyundai, Accord, Camry etc. haha. A little less sad getting beat by the G37 in my mind ... awesome awesome car. My GF has the new Maxima with the VQ V6 and I get spanked every time... =(
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:50 AM
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Even though it's not the fastest car out there, it still provides me with enough enjoyment.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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I just helped by GF buy a C300 with P2 and automatic. The car has excellent power, but MUST be shifted aggressively to feel what this car can accomplish in terms of acceleration. A person can feel how the gearing is tilted towards mileage, rather than off the line performance.

The obvious, make sure the car in in sport mode. Manually down shifting 2 to 3 gears makes a huge difference in acceleration. You can chirp the tires and even burn rubber, but it must be shifted aggressively to realize what the C300 can do.

The C300 is fun to drive. The C350 is even easier to drive like a 3-series. The small amount of extra power is quite noticeable. After thinking about a couple of C350 test drives, I'm thinking the transmission is computer shifted more aggressively.

I agree with C300Kid and Alexlev's comments about the power being enough to make the C300 enjoyable, and the C350 is competitively under-powered.

Interesting to see what others have experienced.

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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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I have a C250 4 matic. It has about 25hp less than the C300, and heavier than most of your cars since it's 4matic. It's slow as **** off the line but pretty decent at higher revs on the hwy. Definitely slower than a 325xi.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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to OP: you obviously never driven a C180.
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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to OP: you obviously never driven a C180.
Is that a 1.8 four...without turbo or intercooling? I could see that being seriously slow.
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Personally, around town, I think a C300 is just fine. I had one as a loaner when my ML was in service and I actually enjoyed driving it around. I loved how well it handled compared to these boats I'm usually driving around . Off the line, I do feel it isn't torquey enough but when already moving, I think it does just fine. I will agree with another poster that said the transmission is geared for MPG. I had it in S and it still seemed to want to be in the highest gear possible. It also shifts too much for my taste. IMO it wouldn't be as enjoyable if it didn't drive well. I wouldn't mind having one though. It's a nice, sportier change than what I'm used to.
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