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I have the 2008 C 350 sport. Irridium Silver Metalic,Multimedia Package,iPod,18" AMG wheels
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I feel so slighted...."no c300 please"...do they think our little engines will mess up the club?? Maybe I can start a C300 club...then again maybe not...lol
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OK....no debate...but your statement is not true. The 350 is not a "better" car.....its the same car....just a faster version. "Better" depends how important "faster" is to the buyer versus availability of 4MATIC or manual trans...now that would be a debate.
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Better is subjective of course.
The M272 3.0L needs MUCH more throttle to get it moving where-as the 3.5L needs very little effort. The motor basically works less hard. I'm sure you can agree with that.
Bigger brakes, much of it attributed to asthetics. Stock 17" AMG wheels, P1 built in, AXLE RATIO difference, stock AMG spoiler, real wood trim(compared to tacky aluminum- subjective of course). I can keep going on.
We're talking stock and not aftermarket/with options but for a minimal price difference, there is a big difference in the cars.
The M272 3.0L needs MUCH more throttle to get it moving where-as the 3.5L needs very little effort. The motor basically works less hard. I'm sure you can agree with that.
Bigger brakes, much of it attributed to asthetics. Stock 17" AMG wheels, P1 built in, AXLE RATIO difference, stock AMG spoiler, real wood trim(compared to tacky aluminum- subjective of course). I can keep going on.
We're talking stock and not aftermarket/with options but for a minimal price difference, there is a big difference in the cars.
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As I read it, you already acknowledge that the 350 trim is better than the 300 trim which is obvious. Simple, give a blind test to those with a C300 and compare it to the C350, you already know the outcome.
Usable torque range on the C350 delivers peak torque and usable torque at a much lower range(2400rpm and under). You need to be close to the 3000 rpm range to extract the 221lb/ft of torque available on the C300 off the engine. The C300 drops about under 160ft/lbs on the wheels at 5k rpm according to multiple dyno sheets I've seen, including Micropower's. A local shop did a dyno on a C350 with 200 in 800 rpm less.
As I said, you must be a nut if you think the C350 isn't a BETTER car than the C300. Regardless if you need the power or not, it's a higher trim level of the same type. Whether or not it benefits you, it's still a better car. That's like saying the C63 is worse car to the C350.
I'm not starting any war between C300 and C350 drivers, but just stating the simple truth. I went into the dealership in August of 2007 looking at a C300 and came out with a C350 because guess what, in the end I wanted the higher trim and the 63 wasn't available. It's okay I understand if you have to hastily defend your buying decision, it's your money.
Usable torque range on the C350 delivers peak torque and usable torque at a much lower range(2400rpm and under). You need to be close to the 3000 rpm range to extract the 221lb/ft of torque available on the C300 off the engine. The C300 drops about under 160ft/lbs on the wheels at 5k rpm according to multiple dyno sheets I've seen, including Micropower's. A local shop did a dyno on a C350 with 200 in 800 rpm less.
As I said, you must be a nut if you think the C350 isn't a BETTER car than the C300. Regardless if you need the power or not, it's a higher trim level of the same type. Whether or not it benefits you, it's still a better car. That's like saying the C63 is worse car to the C350.
I'm not starting any war between C300 and C350 drivers, but just stating the simple truth. I went into the dealership in August of 2007 looking at a C300 and came out with a C350 because guess what, in the end I wanted the higher trim and the 63 wasn't available. It's okay I understand if you have to hastily defend your buying decision, it's your money.
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Let the boys have their fun. Whoever created it might just like C350's and want to see pictures of C350's. It's not like they are giving away free wheels for only C350 users. Some modded C300's like Michael's are better looking and equipped than some of the stock C350's anyway.
Making a big issue of a small thing.
Making a big issue of a small thing.
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Another round of ICE
Better is subjective of course.
The M272 3.0L needs MUCH more throttle to get it moving where-as the 3.5L needs very little effort. The motor basically works less hard. I'm sure you can agree with that.
Bigger brakes, much of it attributed to asthetics. Stock 17" AMG wheels, P1 built in, AXLE RATIO difference, stock AMG spoiler, real wood trim(compared to tacky aluminum- subjective of course). I can keep going on.
We're talking stock and not aftermarket/with options but for a minimal price difference, there is a big difference in the cars.
The M272 3.0L needs MUCH more throttle to get it moving where-as the 3.5L needs very little effort. The motor basically works less hard. I'm sure you can agree with that.
Bigger brakes, much of it attributed to asthetics. Stock 17" AMG wheels, P1 built in, AXLE RATIO difference, stock AMG spoiler, real wood trim(compared to tacky aluminum- subjective of course). I can keep going on.
We're talking stock and not aftermarket/with options but for a minimal price difference, there is a big difference in the cars.
).It sounds like we can agree that the best car is the one with the combination of attributes which pleases each buyer the most. The wonderful thing is that we all get to choose!
The unfortunate thing is the snootiness of the facebook group!
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As I read it, you already acknowledge that the 350 trim is better than the 300 trim which is obvious. Simple, give a blind test to those with a C300 and compare it to the C350, you already know the outcome.
Usable torque range on the C350 delivers peak torque and usable torque at a much lower range(2400rpm and under). You need to be close to the 3000 rpm range to extract the 221lb/ft of torque available on the C300 off the engine. The C300 drops about under 160ft/lbs on the wheels at 5k rpm according to multiple dyno sheets I've seen, including Micropower's. A local shop did a dyno on a C350 with 200 in 800 rpm less.
As I said, you must be a nut if you think the C350 isn't a BETTER car than the C300. Regardless if you need the power or not, it's a higher trim level of the same type. Whether or not it benefits you, it's still a better car. That's like saying the C63 is worse car to the C350.
I'm not starting any war between C300 and C350 drivers, but just stating the simple truth. I went into the dealership in August of 2007 looking at a C300 and came out with a C350 because guess what, in the end I wanted the higher trim and the 63 wasn't available. It's okay I understand if you have to hastily defend your buying decision, it's your money.
Usable torque range on the C350 delivers peak torque and usable torque at a much lower range(2400rpm and under). You need to be close to the 3000 rpm range to extract the 221lb/ft of torque available on the C300 off the engine. The C300 drops about under 160ft/lbs on the wheels at 5k rpm according to multiple dyno sheets I've seen, including Micropower's. A local shop did a dyno on a C350 with 200 in 800 rpm less.
As I said, you must be a nut if you think the C350 isn't a BETTER car than the C300. Regardless if you need the power or not, it's a higher trim level of the same type. Whether or not it benefits you, it's still a better car. That's like saying the C63 is worse car to the C350.
I'm not starting any war between C300 and C350 drivers, but just stating the simple truth. I went into the dealership in August of 2007 looking at a C300 and came out with a C350 because guess what, in the end I wanted the higher trim and the 63 wasn't available. It's okay I understand if you have to hastily defend your buying decision, it's your money.
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Another round of ICE
True....we were doing OK until the all-too-often approach of "agree with me or you're a (insert favorite insult)" showed up again. We do much better when we all realize that other approach of "each to his own" and don't start trying to insist who is or has "better", when "better" is truly in the eye of the beholder.
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2008 C300 Sport 6 Speed Manual, 1953 Chevy Bel-Air, 2015 Audi allroad, 1963 Chevy Apache
As I read it, you already acknowledge that the 350 trim is better than the 300 trim which is obvious. Simple, give a blind test to those with a C300 and compare it to the C350, you already know the outcome.
Usable torque range on the C350 delivers peak torque and usable torque at a much lower range(2400rpm and under). You need to be close to the 3000 rpm range to extract the 221lb/ft of torque available on the C300 off the engine. The C300 drops about under 160ft/lbs on the wheels at 5k rpm according to multiple dyno sheets I've seen, including Micropower's. A local shop did a dyno on a C350 with 200 in 800 rpm less.
As I said, you must be a nut if you think the C350 isn't a BETTER car than the C300. Regardless if you need the power or not, it's a higher trim level of the same type. Whether or not it benefits you, it's still a better car. That's like saying the C63 is worse car to the C350.
I'm not starting any war between C300 and C350 drivers, but just stating the simple truth. I went into the dealership in August of 2007 looking at a C300 and came out with a C350 because guess what, in the end I wanted the higher trim and the 63 wasn't available. It's okay I understand if you have to hastily defend your buying decision, it's your money.
Usable torque range on the C350 delivers peak torque and usable torque at a much lower range(2400rpm and under). You need to be close to the 3000 rpm range to extract the 221lb/ft of torque available on the C300 off the engine. The C300 drops about under 160ft/lbs on the wheels at 5k rpm according to multiple dyno sheets I've seen, including Micropower's. A local shop did a dyno on a C350 with 200 in 800 rpm less.
As I said, you must be a nut if you think the C350 isn't a BETTER car than the C300. Regardless if you need the power or not, it's a higher trim level of the same type. Whether or not it benefits you, it's still a better car. That's like saying the C63 is worse car to the C350.
I'm not starting any war between C300 and C350 drivers, but just stating the simple truth. I went into the dealership in August of 2007 looking at a C300 and came out with a C350 because guess what, in the end I wanted the higher trim and the 63 wasn't available. It's okay I understand if you have to hastily defend your buying decision, it's your money.
My comment was not a hasty defense of my buying decision as my criteria was a vehicle with a manual transmission, rear drive, four doors and a little sport/class...pretty happy with my choice so far but admit a manual 350 would have been my choice if available.
As for your adding to the list, you fell pretty flat on your continuation...except for throwing out some arbitrary power figures. Just so you know, the dyno runs for these engines are remarkably close to the same shape with the 350 obviously being a bit higher on the graph. (Dyno found in this thread: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...v-limiter.html)
I could say that due to that lighter weight of the smaller engine and brakes up front the 300 is a lighter, much better balanced car and therefore anyone that feels the 350 is better is a nut….nah…maybe leave that one alone…
