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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 02:10 PM
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How to use HOLD function in new 2012 C class?

I checked manual, there is a HOLD function in the new 2012 C Class, it allows you to take off your foot from the brake when the car is not running, it's a nice feature when waiting for red light. I tried but didn't figure out how it works, can anyone tell me what trick there is? thank you!

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by imbane
I checked manual, there is a HOLD function in the new C Class, it allows you to take off your foot from the break when the car is not running, it's a nice feature when waiting for red light. I tried but didn't figure out how it works, can anyone tell me what trick there is? thank you!
It's a b-r-a-k-e, not a b-r-e-a-k, unless you have broken it.

The car has to be running, or power brakes don't function in this or any car.

It is meant to help prevent rollback on a hill for a second or two while your foot transfers from the brake to the accelerator after standing still with the car running.

It's been around for a while and is on my 2009 model as well.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
It's a b-r-a-k-e, not a b-r-e-a-k, unless you have broken it.

The car has to be running, or power brakes don't function in this or any car.

It is meant to help prevent rollback on a hill for a second or two while your foot transfers from the brake to the accelerator after standing still with the car running.

It's been around for a while and is on my 2009 model as well.
No, HOLD function is different with the Hill start assist.

Hill start assist function: When the driver moves his foot from the brake pedal to the accelerator pedal, the brake will automatically delay 0.7-1.0 seconds in order to prevent coasting.


HOLD function: when car is in complete stop after braking, the state will be maintained without need of keeping stepping on the brake pedal by drivers, which can significantly relieve drivers in a traffic jam. This HOLD function will be automatically called off until the brake pedal is stepped on again or the accelerator pedal is stepped on directly.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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On my 2010 E class, to engage the HOLD feature, you have to just push the brake pedal down as far as you can while at a stop. It may feel as if your pumping the brakes, but just push it down further than normal once and you"ll see the little HOLD sign come up in the instrument cluster. It works great!
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by imbane
No, HOLD function is different with the Hill start assist.

Hill start assist function: When the driver moves his foot from the brake pedal to the accelerator pedal, the brake will automatically delay 0.7-1.0 seconds in order to prevent coasting.


HOLD function: when car is in complete stop after braking, the state will be maintained without need of keeping stepping on the brake pedal by drivers, which can significantly relieve drivers in a traffic jam. This HOLD function will be automatically called off until the brake pedal is stepped on again or the accelerator pedal is stepped on directly.
agreed with ^...HOLD function was not on my '09 C300... on my E, it's a great feature, good to see the new C's have it too.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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Yea, I will also confirm that "Hold" is different from Hill-start assist, and is new to the c-class lineup in the 2012 model year.

To activate the feature, once stopped, further depress the brake pedal swiftly and firmly and it should activate.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by imbane
No, HOLD function is different with the Hill start assist.

Hill start assist function: When the driver moves his foot from the brake pedal to the accelerator pedal, the brake will automatically delay 0.7-1.0 seconds in order to prevent coasting.


HOLD function: when car is in complete stop after braking, the state will be maintained without need of keeping stepping on the brake pedal by drivers, which can significantly relieve drivers in a traffic jam. This HOLD function will be automatically called off until the brake pedal is stepped on again or the accelerator pedal is stepped on directly.
All right. That is perfectly clear so why are you saying you don't understand?

And, hill start assist holds the brakes for 2-3 seconds regardless of what the book says. I use it all the time.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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All right. That is perfectly clear so why are you saying you don't understand?

And, hill start assist holds the brakes for 2-3 seconds regardless of what the book says. I use it all the time.
I have actually found that Hill start assist will actually hold the vehicle indefinitely if you are on an incline. (Well, not sure about FOREVER, but at least 2 minutes). I have a light by my house on a hill and I always just sit there not holding the brake or anything and stay...
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RLE
All right. That is perfectly clear so why are you saying you don't understand?

And, hill start assist holds the brakes for 2-3 seconds regardless of what the book says. I use it all the time.
I stand corrected on the names of two related features. My experience is the same that the hill assist effect lasts, at most, a couple of seconds before releasing.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jctevere
I have actually found that Hill start assist will actually hold the vehicle indefinitely if you are on an incline. (Well, not sure about FOREVER, but at least 2 minutes). I have a light by my house on a hill and I always just sit there not holding the brake or anything and stay...
Could you be experiencing just the right incline to offset the powertrain in gear at idle pushing forward, to net out to standing still?
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
I stand corrected on the names of two related features. My experience is the same that the hill assist effect lasts, at most, a couple of seconds before releasing.
I think the holding function time varies slightly depending on how far down you have pressed the pedal to activate it but wonder whether the degree of slope has an effect. What we need here is generous Federal Grant to study this. There are some nice hills on Oahu that might work.

MB could easily have included the Hold function in our cars since the Es and Ss had it anyway. More bad product planning. I'm still cursing the deletion of memory seats and mirrors.

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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All right. That is perfectly clear so why are you saying you don't understand?

And, hill start assist holds the brakes for 2-3 seconds regardless of what the book says. I use it all the time.
I think I didn't press the brake pedal hard enough to activate it, I was afraid it's gonna damage the brake if I did so.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by imbane
I think I didn't press the brake pedal hard enough to activate it, I was afraid it's gonna damage the brake if I did so.
If you think you can damage anything with your foot, I suggest you find, in your manual, the explanation of Brake Assist (BAS) which will put your mind at rest.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:43 PM
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Hold is great. Just press the brake pedal firmly until you see "HOLD" in the cluster. Then it holds the brake for you until you press the accelerator or the brake pedal again.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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ooo is the HOLD function a standard in the new C class?
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaewen
ooo is the HOLD function a standard in the new C class?
2012 C-class, yes.

Personally, I would not use it. I've had a habbit of using neutral when stopped, hills or flats, and use light brakes. This unloads the torque converter and stops heating the trans oil, especially at long lights and/or hot summer days on radiant tarmac.

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2012 C-class, yes.

Personally, I would not use it. I've had a habbit of using neutral when stopped, hills or flats, and use light brakes. This unloads the torque converter and stops heating the trans oil, especially at long lights and/or hot summer days on radiant tarmac.

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What?? It's the same as manually stepping on the brake pedal, the hold function just allows you to take your foot off the pedal while applying the necessary brake to keep your car stopped...by saying you wouldn't use the Hold feature, you are essentially saying that you do not use your brakes at all...
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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lol woohoo... just tried it. and it WORKS.
just a short note that your back brake lights will stay on for the duration of the HOLD function.

Its one of those things that its better to have than not to have....
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaewen
lol woohoo... just tried it. and it WORKS.
just a short note that your back brake lights will stay on for the duration of the HOLD function.

Its one of those things that its better to have than not to have....
May I know how hard you pressed the brake pedal? I tried this morning but still no luck
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Originally Posted by imbane
May I know how hard you pressed the brake pedal? I tried this morning but still no luck
pretty hard.. lol..
but if it did not happen he first time, depress a little and try again..

lets say you press 50% for your car to come to a halt..
then press to 80% to activate HOLD function.

if it fails, depress the brake pedal to 30% and press again to 80%.

hope that helps.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kaewen
pretty hard.. lol..
but if it did not happen he first time, depress a little and try again..

lets say you press 50% for your car to come to a halt..
then press to 80% to activate HOLD function.

if it fails, depress the brake pedal to 30% and press again to 80%.

hope that helps.
Finally I figured out how to engage it, actually after I got it working, I found it's pretty easy. I like it, it's the best feature I've ever had in a car. LOL

thank you!

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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:50 PM
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What?? It's the same as manually stepping on the brake pedal, the hold function just allows you to take your foot off the pedal while applying the necessary brake to keep your car stopped...by saying you wouldn't use the Hold feature, you are essentially saying that you do not use your brakes at all...
He is actually making a more subtle distinction and driving his automatic similarly to how I manage my manual trans. Use the brakes to stop the car. If on a flat surface, engage Neutral and let the car stand still with no need for brakes. If on an incline, apply just enough brakes to hold the mass of the car, not having to offset the powertrain trying to move the car forward. Shift either the auto (or stick) into gear when ready to move again.
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Originally Posted by park423
What?? It's the same as manually stepping on the brake pedal, the hold function just allows you to take your foot off the pedal while applying the necessary brake to keep your car stopped..
Correct !

....by saying you wouldn't use the Hold feature, you are essentially saying that you do not use your brakes at all...
Nope. (not sure how you came to that illogical conclusion)

Read Sportstick's correct response. He described sparing the thrust bearing in the clutch ***'y of his MTX. I'm sparing the trans fluid excess heat in the
ATX.

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Correct !



Nope. (not sure how you came to that illogical conclusion)

Read Sportstick's correct response. He described sparing the thrust bearing in the clutch ***'y of his MTX. I'm sparing the trans fluid excess heat in the
ATX.

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Wait... so for every red stoplight you encounter on a daily basis, you put your car into neutral? Is this a common thing? Does it really "save" your auto transmission? What about the excess shifting from drive to neutral, does that cause any excess wear or heat build-up? Anyway, if it is common, obviously easier to do in a C class with a center console mounted shifter as opposed to the column shifter in the other models.

Anyway, for people who just step on the brake pedal when stopped, the Hold function is great but may need to press it one or two times to engage. Auto transmission fluid heat be damned!
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Originally Posted by Sportstick
He is actually making a more subtle distinction and driving his automatic similarly to how I manage my manual trans. Use the brakes to stop the car. If on a flat surface, engage Neutral and let the car stand still with no need for brakes. If on an incline, apply just enough brakes to hold the mass of the car, not having to offset the powertrain trying to move the car forward. Shift either the auto (or stick) into gear when ready to move again.
well said.. though another unofficial and risky use is to check your brake lights or even reverse lights when you engage HOLD and get out of the car... (REPEAT: RISKY) hehehe..

Now i don't have to get my gf to step on this and that when i want to take photos of my car's back lights,,
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