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New 236.15 Fluid for 722.9 7G Tronic Plus imminent.

 
Old 12-31-2013, 04:17 AM
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Good point about VIN Glyn, my 2011 E350 was delivered by MB on 12 April 2011 (don't know when it was built) but the data card shows 722.906 which is for the 236.14 specs.
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Hi my VIN is WDD2040021A547100 , is it 7 gtronic or 7 gtronic plus ?


Release date : 07 /04/2011

What about atf 134 mobil oil is it compatible with my transmission ?

http://http://www.ebay.fr/itm/17-93-1l-Getriebeoel-ATF-134-Mobil-20L-/350609079746

I also have start and stop ; my Transmission: 722908 03 318844

My dealer says , its the same oil for all transmission

what is blue oil any picture Of the bottle ? Advance thanks

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Your dealer is wrong. 236.14 fluid is correct for all transmissions up to 722.9 Plus transmission.
722.9 Plus transmission uses 236.15 blue fluid which is not reverse compatible with older transmissions. It is a far lighter viscosity.

That Mobil product in the link is 236.14 fluid.

Tell your lazy dealer to look up your VIN. At that date it is probably a 722.9 Plus transmission. Then he can consult the WIS for correct servicing.

Here is the latest listing of approved 234.15 fluids for 722.9 Plus transmission.

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Correct me if im wrong

1) i have 7 g tronic plus +++

2) i must use 236.15

3) i cant use 236.14

Or I can use both 236.14 and 236.15 transmission oils

5) i drive a lot city than High Way , whats the best interval 40k or 50k

Advance thanks
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You should have 722.9 Plus. Please check against VIN ~ we find some strange things. I have never seen a stop/start car without 722.9 Plus.

If you have 7G Tronic Plus (722.9 Plus) you can ONLY use 236.15 Fluid.

Drain interval is 120,000 Km's. Until this has been proven successful (we have not examined many used fluid samples) I would change fluid & filter every 60,000Km's like other Benz transmissions.
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I went to another MB dealer for transmission fluid , he gave me 236.15 so i got 722.9 +++ plus confirmed thanks , i need the pump to make transmission fluid change any recommendation on ebay or amazon , advance thanks
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I went to another MB dealer for transmission fluid , he gave me 236.15 so i got 722.9 +++ plus confirmed thanks , i need the pump to make transmission fluid change any recommendation on ebay or amazon , advance thanks
you will be the first one around here to change the fluid on a 7G Plus unit. good luck! keep us posted!
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I went to another MB dealer for transmission fluid , he gave me 236.15 so i got 722.9 +++ plus confirmed thanks , i need the pump to make transmission fluid change any recommendation on ebay or amazon , advance thanks
This is the most commonly used pump by DIY'ers on the forum. Available on eBay & Amazon. Make sure you get the correct adaptor for 722.9.

http://asttool.com/atf_main.php
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you will be the first one around here to change the fluid on a 7G Plus unit. good luck! keep us posted!
Thank you so much
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I bought it from ebay ;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/How-To-Fil...-/230955417429

Anybody can explain flush oil cooler , was it really necessary ?

Or Just drain TC and drain oil plug ?

I only bought 9 liters , can i use some other fluid for flush how i have to flush ? Major information would be helpfull .
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You don't need to flush the oil cooler circuit. Just drain pan & TC & most of the fluid in the cooler circuit will drain at the same time.
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Ok thank you so much , i feel a bit nervous , waiting for the pump i bought , i Will keep posted
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I bought it from ebay ;

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/How-To-Fil...-/230955417429

Anybody can explain flush oil cooler , was it really necessary ?

Or Just drain TC and drain oil plug ?

I only bought 9 liters , can i use some other fluid for flush how i have to flush ? Major information would be helpfull .
You can flush the cooler using kerosene or new 236.15 fluid. I don't feel it is needed, but if you are willing to do it, the better.

Definitely do drain the torque converter, and remember to keep things clean.
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Do not put kerosene anywhere near the transmission. No need to flush cooler lines.
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Hi , Just curious why there are 2 mercedes genuine différent oil for 236.15

A 001 989 77 03

&

A 001 989 78 03


Any difference between both ?

Here in France and online ebay i see only A 001 989 78 03

Is the other one A 001 989 77 03 reserved for Mb garagist client ?


I used A 001 989 78 03 , 33 kilometres gear shiftin is so bad

It says change interval 120 000 kms not a half Of it ,


Any artecco chevron product updated with 236.15 ?


Or what about :

RAVENOL ATF M 9-FE Série mb 236.15


Or i must try the other genuine product A 001 989 77 03 ? I see 1 seller online with it .

Any further information or i'm the only one who noticed this .

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Its Just unbeleivable, its impossible genuine mb oil cant loose ability for 33 000 kms , i'm pretty sûre it was mixed with an another oil , i Will kill sum mechanics , trust no 1 do it by yourself . Be well prepared for TC . I dont Know about other country hère in france corruption is dominatin , people eat each other mad at the world .....
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Need to hear some1 with more experience ,

Does coolant antigel can destroy ATF ability ?

How does transmission oil and radiator works together?

I ve noticed my coolant antigel lost his power , does it affected my transmission ATF.

Would Luv to hear somebody with any similar expérience . Thanks
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Problem solved

Wrong filter sold by mb dealer A221 277 01 95

Carefull with dealers make sure to buy A 222 277 20 00 for 7 gtronic + for a good drain interval.
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Hi all.

I've read about 20 threads and been searching, and I'm still not convinced if I should get 236.14 or 236.15 fluid. I know you mentioned to check with your VIN to determine your transmission type, but perhaps I'm not sure what you all mean by that. I've checked my VIN on a couple free VIN decoders, but none mentions the 7G Tronic or 7G Tronic PLUS.

I've found a couple sites to run my vin and here are 5 relevant pieces of info I get for transmission:
Transmission: 722964 03 901043 [transmissionType = GA]
Engine no: 272948 32 015126
Transmission Code Version 64
A89-Reduced Friction
Release date was March 2012


My car was built right around change to the 7G Tronic PLUS, so that's what is causing my uncertainty. Unfortunately, none of the VIN checking sites I found mention the terms "7G Tronic" or "7G Tronic PLUS".

Originally I was convinced after reading multiple threads that it was the 7G Tronic (because of no push button start) and was going to get 236.14, but after going to ECS Tuning to buy a kit and dropping in my year, make, model, it was prompting me to get the 236.15. The key component for ECS Tuning going 236.14 or 236.15 is whether or not it has the A89-Reduced Friction requirement. (No requirement = 236.14, Requirement = 236.15). My car, per the VIN checking site, has the requirement for reduced friction.

I think ECS is reputable, but still want to be 100% certain.

I've even gone so far as to sign up for an EPC at https://epc.startekinfo.com (and I'm very likely using it wrong), but I can't find the answer there.

any help is greatly appreciated.

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Hi Glyn,
I have never written though I was a member since 2005 but I forgot my login credentials (or what email I had used) so I was forced to create a new account. That said, per your response above, you said that one can tell via the VIN what version of the 7 G-tronic their vehicle has. If that is so, may I PM you mine? Also, how would I do that?
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The 2012 facelift models are certainly available with Stop-Start & the 7G Tronic Plus should be fitted to all cars with the new M271 Evo Turbo engine & the new M278 60 degree V6. You will note new owners talking about S & E mode with default to E.

I can't comment on runout models to the US.

EDIT: Yes - fluid change every 125,000Km's instead of 60,000Km's (they say 50K in the article but 60K has been the global norm). We will see how this works out in reality.
I'm quoting a very very old post and I apologize.

I have a 2012 C300 (272 engine without direct injection). I have a 7 speed transmission (4matic), but I don't think it's the "Plus" version of the transmission.

Is this thread relevant to me or am I to stick to the old fluid? Thanks

I do NOT have start/stop and it is the facelifted model. In 2013 they launched the C300 with the Plus tranny and direct injection. So i'm fairly certain I do not have the 7G plus.
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Also, should I wait until 60,000km for a tranny service/drain, or is 50,000 the way to go? I seem to recall a post on here which said that it was originally 50k and they pushed it to 60k. Thanks
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Also, should I wait until 60,000km for a tranny service/drain, or is 50,000 the way to go? I seem to recall a post on here which said that it was originally 50k and they pushed it to 60k. Thanks
I just had an oil change and the tech said you have some transmission fluid leaking around the drain plug. I said, are you sure, I have no fluid on my driveway. Tech said, that's because there's a shield that catches leaks. I tried to check my transmission level, but to my surprise you can not. So I am having tranny serviced next Tuesday at 47K.
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