New 236.15 Fluid for 722.9 7G Tronic Plus imminent.
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
Hi my VIN is WDD2040021A547100 , is it 7 gtronic or 7 gtronic plus ?
Release date : 07 /04/2011
What about atf 134 mobil oil is it compatible with my transmission ?
http://http://www.ebay.fr/itm/17-93-1l-Getriebeoel-ATF-134-Mobil-20L-/350609079746
I also have start and stop ; my Transmission: 722908 03 318844
My dealer says , its the same oil for all transmission
what is blue oil any picture Of the bottle ? Advance thanks
Release date : 07 /04/2011
What about atf 134 mobil oil is it compatible with my transmission ?
http://http://www.ebay.fr/itm/17-93-1l-Getriebeoel-ATF-134-Mobil-20L-/350609079746
I also have start and stop ; my Transmission: 722908 03 318844
My dealer says , its the same oil for all transmission
what is blue oil any picture Of the bottle ? Advance thanks
Last edited by 74Etoile; Mar 23, 2014 at 06:01 AM.
Thread Starter
Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 19,942
Likes: 192
From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Your dealer is wrong. 236.14 fluid is correct for all transmissions up to 722.9 Plus transmission.
722.9 Plus transmission uses 236.15 blue fluid which is not reverse compatible with older transmissions. It is a far lighter viscosity.
That Mobil product in the link is 236.14 fluid.
Tell your lazy dealer to look up your VIN. At that date it is probably a 722.9 Plus transmission. Then he can consult the WIS for correct servicing.
Here is the latest listing of approved 234.15 fluids for 722.9 Plus transmission.
722.9 Plus transmission uses 236.15 blue fluid which is not reverse compatible with older transmissions. It is a far lighter viscosity.
That Mobil product in the link is 236.14 fluid.
Tell your lazy dealer to look up your VIN. At that date it is probably a 722.9 Plus transmission. Then he can consult the WIS for correct servicing.
Here is the latest listing of approved 234.15 fluids for 722.9 Plus transmission.
Thread Starter
Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 19,942
Likes: 192
From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
Correct me if im wrong
1) i have 7 g tronic plus +++
2) i must use 236.15
3) i cant use 236.14
Or I can use both 236.14 and 236.15 transmission oils
5) i drive a lot city than High Way , whats the best interval 40k or 50k
Advance thanks
1) i have 7 g tronic plus +++
2) i must use 236.15
3) i cant use 236.14
Or I can use both 236.14 and 236.15 transmission oils
5) i drive a lot city than High Way , whats the best interval 40k or 50k
Advance thanks
Thread Starter
Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 19,942
Likes: 192
From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
You should have 722.9 Plus. Please check against VIN ~ we find some strange things. I have never seen a stop/start car without 722.9 Plus.
If you have 7G Tronic Plus (722.9 Plus) you can ONLY use 236.15 Fluid.
Drain interval is 120,000 Km's. Until this has been proven successful (we have not examined many used fluid samples) I would change fluid & filter every 60,000Km's like other Benz transmissions.
If you have 7G Tronic Plus (722.9 Plus) you can ONLY use 236.15 Fluid.
Drain interval is 120,000 Km's. Until this has been proven successful (we have not examined many used fluid samples) I would change fluid & filter every 60,000Km's like other Benz transmissions.
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
I went to another MB dealer for transmission fluid , he gave me 236.15 so i got 722.9 +++ plus confirmed thanks , i need the pump to make transmission fluid change any recommendation on ebay or amazon , advance thanks
Super Member
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 583
Likes: 24
2026 GLC300 4Matic (X254)
you will be the first one around here to change the fluid on a 7G Plus unit. good luck! keep us posted!
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Thread Starter
Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 19,942
Likes: 192
From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
http://asttool.com/atf_main.php
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
I bought it from ebay ;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/How-To-Fil...-/230955417429
Anybody can explain flush oil cooler , was it really necessary ?
Or Just drain TC and drain oil plug ?
I only bought 9 liters , can i use some other fluid for flush how i have to flush ? Major information would be helpfull .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/How-To-Fil...-/230955417429
Anybody can explain flush oil cooler , was it really necessary ?
Or Just drain TC and drain oil plug ?
I only bought 9 liters , can i use some other fluid for flush how i have to flush ? Major information would be helpfull .
Thread Starter
Super Moderator
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 19,942
Likes: 192
From: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa
late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires
You don't need to flush the oil cooler circuit. Just drain pan & TC & most of the fluid in the cooler circuit will drain at the same time.
Junior Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 37
Likes: 2
'11 MB C300, '93 Toyota Supra T , '12 Chevy Cruze
I bought it from ebay ;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/How-To-Fil...-/230955417429
Anybody can explain flush oil cooler , was it really necessary ?
Or Just drain TC and drain oil plug ?
I only bought 9 liters , can i use some other fluid for flush how i have to flush ? Major information would be helpfull .
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/How-To-Fil...-/230955417429
Anybody can explain flush oil cooler , was it really necessary ?
Or Just drain TC and drain oil plug ?
I only bought 9 liters , can i use some other fluid for flush how i have to flush ? Major information would be helpfull .
Definitely do drain the torque converter, and remember to keep things clean.
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
Hi , Just curious why there are 2 mercedes genuine différent oil for 236.15
A 001 989 77 03
&
A 001 989 78 03
Any difference between both ?
Here in France and online ebay i see only A 001 989 78 03
Is the other one A 001 989 77 03 reserved for Mb garagist client ?
I used A 001 989 78 03 , 33 kilometres gear shiftin is so bad
It says change interval 120 000 kms not a half Of it ,
Any artecco chevron product updated with 236.15 ?
Or what about :
RAVENOL ATF M 9-FE Série mb 236.15
Or i must try the other genuine product A 001 989 77 03 ? I see 1 seller online with it .
Any further information or i'm the only one who noticed this .
Last edited by 74Etoile; Sep 20, 2014 at 01:49 PM.
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
Its Just unbeleivable, its impossible genuine mb oil cant loose ability for 33 000 kms , i'm pretty sûre it was mixed with an another oil , i Will kill sum mechanics , trust no 1 do it by yourself . Be well prepared for TC . I dont Know about other country hère in france corruption is dominatin , people eat each other mad at the world .....
Member
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 77
Likes: 0
From: FRANCE
W204 c220 Avant-garde Exec
Need to hear some1 with more experience ,
Does coolant antigel can destroy ATF ability ?
How does transmission oil and radiator works together?
I ve noticed my coolant antigel lost his power , does it affected my transmission ATF.
Would Luv to hear somebody with any similar expérience . Thanks
Does coolant antigel can destroy ATF ability ?
How does transmission oil and radiator works together?
I ve noticed my coolant antigel lost his power , does it affected my transmission ATF.
Would Luv to hear somebody with any similar expérience . Thanks
Newbie
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
2012 C300 4-matic W204
Hi all.
I've read about 20 threads and been searching, and I'm still not convinced if I should get 236.14 or 236.15 fluid. I know you mentioned to check with your VIN to determine your transmission type, but perhaps I'm not sure what you all mean by that. I've checked my VIN on a couple free VIN decoders, but none mentions the 7G Tronic or 7G Tronic PLUS.
I've found a couple sites to run my vin and here are 5 relevant pieces of info I get for transmission:
Transmission: 722964 03 901043 [transmissionType = GA]
Engine no: 272948 32 015126
Transmission Code Version 64
A89-Reduced Friction
Release date was March 2012
My car was built right around change to the 7G Tronic PLUS, so that's what is causing my uncertainty. Unfortunately, none of the VIN checking sites I found mention the terms "7G Tronic" or "7G Tronic PLUS".
Originally I was convinced after reading multiple threads that it was the 7G Tronic (because of no push button start) and was going to get 236.14, but after going to ECS Tuning to buy a kit and dropping in my year, make, model, it was prompting me to get the 236.15. The key component for ECS Tuning going 236.14 or 236.15 is whether or not it has the A89-Reduced Friction requirement. (No requirement = 236.14, Requirement = 236.15). My car, per the VIN checking site, has the requirement for reduced friction.
I think ECS is reputable, but still want to be 100% certain.
I've even gone so far as to sign up for an EPC at https://epc.startekinfo.com (and I'm very likely using it wrong), but I can't find the answer there.
any help is greatly appreciated.
I've read about 20 threads and been searching, and I'm still not convinced if I should get 236.14 or 236.15 fluid. I know you mentioned to check with your VIN to determine your transmission type, but perhaps I'm not sure what you all mean by that. I've checked my VIN on a couple free VIN decoders, but none mentions the 7G Tronic or 7G Tronic PLUS.
I've found a couple sites to run my vin and here are 5 relevant pieces of info I get for transmission:
Transmission: 722964 03 901043 [transmissionType = GA]
Engine no: 272948 32 015126
Transmission Code Version 64
A89-Reduced Friction
Release date was March 2012
My car was built right around change to the 7G Tronic PLUS, so that's what is causing my uncertainty. Unfortunately, none of the VIN checking sites I found mention the terms "7G Tronic" or "7G Tronic PLUS".
Originally I was convinced after reading multiple threads that it was the 7G Tronic (because of no push button start) and was going to get 236.14, but after going to ECS Tuning to buy a kit and dropping in my year, make, model, it was prompting me to get the 236.15. The key component for ECS Tuning going 236.14 or 236.15 is whether or not it has the A89-Reduced Friction requirement. (No requirement = 236.14, Requirement = 236.15). My car, per the VIN checking site, has the requirement for reduced friction.
I think ECS is reputable, but still want to be 100% certain.
I've even gone so far as to sign up for an EPC at https://epc.startekinfo.com (and I'm very likely using it wrong), but I can't find the answer there.
any help is greatly appreciated.
Last edited by jmac1981; Nov 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM.
Newbie
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
2012 W204 4MATIC
Hi Glyn,
I have never written though I was a member since 2005 but I forgot my login credentials (or what email I had used) so I was forced to create a new account. That said, per your response above, you said that one can tell via the VIN what version of the 7 G-tronic their vehicle has. If that is so, may I PM you mine? Also, how would I do that?
Regards
I have never written though I was a member since 2005 but I forgot my login credentials (or what email I had used) so I was forced to create a new account. That said, per your response above, you said that one can tell via the VIN what version of the 7 G-tronic their vehicle has. If that is so, may I PM you mine? Also, how would I do that?
Regards
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,366
Likes: 251
From: Canada
A car
The 2012 facelift models are certainly available with Stop-Start & the 7G Tronic Plus should be fitted to all cars with the new M271 Evo Turbo engine & the new M278 60 degree V6. You will note new owners talking about S & E mode with default to E.
I can't comment on runout models to the US.
EDIT: Yes - fluid change every 125,000Km's instead of 60,000Km's (they say 50K in the article but 60K has been the global norm). We will see how this works out in reality.
I can't comment on runout models to the US.
EDIT: Yes - fluid change every 125,000Km's instead of 60,000Km's (they say 50K in the article but 60K has been the global norm). We will see how this works out in reality.
I have a 2012 C300 (272 engine without direct injection). I have a 7 speed transmission (4matic), but I don't think it's the "Plus" version of the transmission.
Is this thread relevant to me or am I to stick to the old fluid? Thanks
I do NOT have start/stop and it is the facelifted model. In 2013 they launched the C300 with the Plus tranny and direct injection. So i'm fairly certain I do not have the 7G plus.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,366
Likes: 251
From: Canada
A car
Also, should I wait until 60,000km for a tranny service/drain, or is 50,000 the way to go? I seem to recall a post on here which said that it was originally 50k and they pushed it to 60k. Thanks
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 72
Likes: 1
2013 C-Class 350 Sedan
I just had an oil change and the tech said you have some transmission fluid leaking around the drain plug. I said, are you sure, I have no fluid on my driveway. Tech said, that's because there's a shield that catches leaks. I tried to check my transmission level, but to my surprise you can not. So I am having tranny serviced next Tuesday at 47K.
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,366
Likes: 251
From: Canada
A car
I just had an oil change and the tech said you have some transmission fluid leaking around the drain plug. I said, are you sure, I have no fluid on my driveway. Tech said, that's because there's a shield that catches leaks. I tried to check my transmission level, but to my surprise you can not. So I am having tranny serviced next Tuesday at 47K.
Do you generally do city driving or highway driving? How old is the vehicle?
Thank you sir.
PS I think you're being hosed.
Here's the drain plug...
http://cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techart...mall/pic02.jpg
I don't see a cover for it, and if there is, how would he see it as part of an oil change? (especially since oil changes should be done whereby the dealer extracts oil from the top...)
