General consensus on Extended Warranties: yes or no?
I keep my cars for a long time/high mileage and after hearing Glyn say that a MB tranny can run $10K I'm wondering if maybe it's worth the price (assuming that MB actually/truely covers things in the extended period.) I keep my vehicles for over 10 years (actually my 5 vehicles average 24 years old with the two "newest" being 11/12 years with ~150/170K miles each.)
So, if I plan on keeping the C350 for 10 years/150K miles do you think the extended warranty is a good option? Would you be willing to bet that there's a good chance of needing it after the original warranty expires?
Thanks for any input. Again, first MB so not sure about what to expect at high mileage...
Last edited by 2012c350; Mar 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM.
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Still curious how reliable Benzs are at higher mileage. Seems that most people here don't tend to keep theirs for a long time. I know a friend of mine drives BMW exclusively but swears he'll never own one out of warranty because of their cost/reliability after warranty. That's what got me wondering here...
Added resale value is out of the question if you plan to keep it. I have about one year to make a decision on my 2009 whether to get extended or not. So far I have had one O2 censor replaced under warranty. I plan to perform all regular services at the MB service centers. Unless something happens within the next 12 months (knock on wood, or not?), I can't seem to justify the cost of extended warranty which runs for $3500-4000.
Glad to see I'm not the only long term car keeper. I hate payments which is why I could never lease.
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I keep my cars for a long time/high mileage and after hearing Glyn say that a MB tranny can run $10K I'm wondering if maybe it's worth the price (assuming that MB actually/truely covers things in the extended period.) I keep my vehicles for over 10 years (actually my 5 vehicles average 24 years old with the two "newest" being 11/12 years with ~150/170K miles each.)
So, if I plan on keeping the C350 for 10 years/150K miles do you think the extended warranty is a good option? Would you be willing to bet that there's a good chance of needing it after the original warranty expires?
Thanks for any input. Again, first MB so not sure about what to expect at high mileage...
I would recommend against anything sold by Geico since they are right at the top of the "Worst Insurers" list. Followed by Progressive and State Farm.
The high end body shops (this includes MB certified shops) hate them because they never want to pay to restore the cars (MB, BMW or Lexus) to factory standards. Used parts and body filler are their favorites.
Now there's been some debate about if it's just Mechanical or Electrical that's covered, and from what I understood, Electrical is supposed to be covered, but I think I should place a call just to double check.
its one millionth mechanical breakdown insurance (MBI) policy, reminds auto
owners of the benefits of this unique coverage.
GEICO's mechanical breakdown insurance (MBI) policy is an all-risk
policy designed to protect policyholders after the car's warranty is up.
After a $250 deductible on a covered loss, GEICO MBI covers repairs to all
mechanical parts of the car except for maintenance and wear and tear.
GEICO's assistant vice president of MBI, Suzanne Worthen, said, "Our
coverage is very broad. It pays for covered mechanical or electrical
repairs to a new car. It also covers a car that is leased with the option
to buy, with the insured being the first titleholder. This coverage helps
protect our MBI policyholders from being saddled with unanticipated and
expensive repair bills."
GEICO notes that the vehicle must be less than 15 months old and have
an odometer reading of less than 15,000 miles at the time the coverage is
initially purchased.
Glenn Cropp, MBI claims manager, further explained, "GEICO's MBI is
structured to be better than an extended warranty. It provides better
protection and is less expensive than the typical dealer extended warranty.
MBI coverage includes all parts and systems, not just the specific list of
items covered by most dealer warranties. In the long run, our policy saves
auto owners money because they pay only a small premium each policy period
instead of a large lump-sum payment up front."
Chad Pence, centralized services reports and controls manager, added,
"GEICO's MBI is a great policy and really comes in handy when they need it
most. Our MBI counselors handle claims, investigate losses and negotiate
the cost of repairs to make sure GEICO pays a fair price on claims. GEICO
also allows auto owners to swap their extended warranty for our MBI policy
if they have already purchased their dealer's extended warranty recently."
As GEICO CEO Tony Nicely has said on numerous occasions, "Mechanical
breakdown insurance buys peace of mind. It is a trusted product that
customers like and need. We expect to reach our one millionth MBI
policyholder before the end of the summer, which is a sign of its growing
importance for auto owners."
For more information about mechanical breakdown insurance, please visit
http://www.geico.com/auto/safety/mbi.htm.
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It really depends on the car, its specific and overall model reliability, and if you've owned it since knew and/or know it's service history. Plus how many miles you have, how much the warrany costs, and its coverage.
With AMG cars, it's almost always a good bet. I posted statistics in one of the AMG forums about the 300+ AMG cars I have under warranty, and the average AMG car I have will earn a 200%+ payout against the warranty cost by end of term. That's a pretty damn good bet to me.
With other models, I have a hard time selling someone a plan on a C300 RWD for $4K to get them to 100K miles. Meaning, I don't think they will see a positive ROI.
However, if you think about it like; pay $4K for exclusionary (aka bumper to bumper) warranty for 4 years of coverage. File an average of $500 in claims per year at Benz dealer, by end of plan, with no major problems, your net cost was $2K for four years of coverage, so $500 per year.
To me, paying $500 per year to protect against a major mechanical problem (engine, trans, etc) is not a bad deal either.
Some people only assign value to the warranty if it pays out at 100% or better, otherwise they consider it a 'waste' of money. To me, that's like paying $1000 per year for homeowner's and being angry that a tornado doesn't knock your house down so you can 'cash out' the policy. There has to be SOME value assigned to sleep-well-at-night protection!
Bruce
Now there's been some debate about if it's just Mechanical or Electrical that's covered, and from what I understood, Electrical is supposed to be covered, but I think I should place a call just to double check.
Originally Posted by PRNewswire
CHEVY CHASE, Md., June 27 /PRNewswire/ -- GEICO, nearing the sale of
its one millionth mechanical breakdown insurance (MBI) policy, reminds auto
owners of the benefits of this unique coverage.
GEICO's mechanical breakdown insurance (MBI) policy is an all-risk
policy designed to protect policyholders after the car's warranty is up.
After a $250 deductible on a covered loss, GEICO MBI covers repairs to all
mechanical parts of the car except for maintenance and wear and tear.
They use the term "covered loss" quite a bit but don't define it. I'd love to hear what isn't covered. As on example, suppose your C300 develops a big oil leak which is not unknown. That's not a mechanical breakdown but a seal or gasket failure and I've seen policies that specifically exclude seals and gaskets. So, no coverage.
GEICO's assistant vice president of MBI, Suzanne Worthen, said, "Our
coverage is very broad. It pays for covered mechanical or electrical
repairs to a new car. It also covers a car that is leased with the option
to buy, with the insured being the first titleholder. This coverage helps
protect our MBI policyholders from being saddled with unanticipated and
expensive repair bills."
Boy, is this meaningless. There's that word "covered" again.
GEICO notes that the vehicle must be less than 15 months old and have
an odometer reading of less than 15,000 miles at the time the coverage is
initially purchased.
So when does the extended warranty start, then? The OE warranty has 35K miles to go so you are going to be paying Geico every month until the original expires, for no coverage?
Glenn Cropp, MBI claims manager, further explained, "GEICO's MBI is
structured to be better than an extended warranty. It provides better
protection and is less expensive than the typical dealer extended warranty.
MBI coverage includes all parts and systems, not just the specific list of
items covered by most dealer warranties. In the long run, our policy saves
auto owners money because they pay only a small premium each policy period instead of a large lump-sum payment up front."
Money in their bank, not yours.
Chad Pence, centralized services reports and controls manager, added,
"GEICO's MBI is a great policy and really comes in handy when they need it
most. Our MBI counselors handle claims, investigate losses and negotiate
the cost of repairs to make sure GEICO pays a fair price on claims.
"Negotiate the cost of repairs". And this means? I'll tell you what the shop owners say. A Geico agent shows up, looks at what is required to bring the car back to running condition and demands that aftermarket or used parts be used. "After all, it's not a new car." Unquote. The shop owners say that they have to accept Geico's amount unless they don't want any more of their business. This also applies to body shops. So, corners are cut.
Just yesterday I attended an MBCA tech meeting at one of the two Mercedes approved body shops in Seattle, A question was asked regarding dealing with insurance companies when repairing crashed MBs. The owner of the business had plenty to say about which companies realize what it takes to properly repair an MB and the ones that don't care and are only interested in the cheapest way possible.
Last year I attended exactly the same the sort of event at the other MB approved body shop (that time for the Porsche Club) and the story was exactly the same. The three worst companies when it comes to covering the cost for a correct MB repair are still:
Geico
Progressive
State Farm
If one is driving a five year Camry then likely none of this matters. But, we aren't.
Originally Posted by PRNewswire
CHEVY CHASE, Md., June 27 /PRNewswire/ -- GEICO, nearing the sale of
its one millionth mechanical breakdown insurance (MBI) policy, reminds auto
owners of the benefits of this unique coverage.
GEICO's mechanical breakdown insurance (MBI) policy is an all-risk
policy designed to protect policyholders after the car's warranty is up.
After a $250 deductible on a covered loss, GEICO MBI covers repairs to all
mechanical parts of the car except for maintenance and wear and tear.
They use the term "covered loss" quite a bit but don't define it. I'd love to hear what isn't covered. As on example, suppose your C300 develops a big oil leak which is not unknown. That's not a mechanical breakdown but a seal or gasket failure and I've seen policies that specifically exclude seals and gaskets. So, no coverage.
GEICO's assistant vice president of MBI, Suzanne Worthen, said, "Our
coverage is very broad. It pays for covered mechanical or electrical
repairs to a new car. It also covers a car that is leased with the option
to buy, with the insured being the first titleholder. This coverage helps
protect our MBI policyholders from being saddled with unanticipated and
expensive repair bills."
Boy, is this meaningless. There's that word "covered" again.
GEICO notes that the vehicle must be less than 15 months old and have
an odometer reading of less than 15,000 miles at the time the coverage is
initially purchased.
So when does the extended warranty start, then? The OE warranty has 35K miles to go so you are going to be paying Geico every month until the original expires, for no coverage?
Glenn Cropp, MBI claims manager, further explained, "GEICO's MBI is
structured to be better than an extended warranty. It provides better
protection and is less expensive than the typical dealer extended warranty.
MBI coverage includes all parts and systems, not just the specific list of
items covered by most dealer warranties. In the long run, our policy saves
auto owners money because they pay only a small premium each policy period instead of a large lump-sum payment up front."
Money in their bank, not yours.
Chad Pence, centralized services reports and controls manager, added,
"GEICO's MBI is a great policy and really comes in handy when they need it
most. Our MBI counselors handle claims, investigate losses and negotiate
the cost of repairs to make sure GEICO pays a fair price on claims.
"Negotiate the cost of repairs". And this means? I'll tell you what the shop owners say. A Geico agent shows up, looks at what is required to bring the car back to running condition and demands that aftermarket or used parts be used. "After all, it's not a new car." Unquote. The shop owners say that they have to accept Geico's amount unless they don't want any more of their business. This also applies to body shops. So, corners are cut.
Just yesterday I attended an MBCA tech meeting at one of the two Mercedes approved body shops in Seattle, A question was asked regarding dealing with insurance companies when repairing crashed MBs. The owner of the business had plenty to say about which companies realize what it takes to properly repair an MB and the ones that don't care and are only interested in the cheapest way possible.
Last year I attended exactly the same the sort of event at the other MB approved body shop (that time for the Porsche Club) and the story was exactly the same. The three worst companies when it comes to covering the cost for a correct MB repair are still:
Geico
Progressive
State Farm
If one is driving a five year Camry then likely none of this matters. But, we aren't.



