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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 11:13 AM
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So am able to use this speedo A2049004308 (also off a W204). The shape looks different to the speedo I mentioned before.
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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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Yes, this speedo will work after adding code 442 for 12-button wheel and digital speedo to Vedoc. As I mentioned before, you just have to change the upper part of the facelift speedometers housing against the old one.

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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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what has the facelift version that the pre facelift doesn't have? or is it just the different look?
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 07:56 AM
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It is just the multicolored look.
By comparison the pre facelift monochrome speedo looks pretty antiquated.
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Minuszeit
Yes, you just have to shorten the faceplate.
Remove W204 headunit, install 212 headunit and thats it. It is really a simple thing.
Btw, it is also possible to upgrade to NTG4.5. I developed a converter so that one can maintain the W204 pre facelift display. Just one/two minor shortcomings have to be fixed.

Just went to my car to show you the bt streaming function of 212 NTG4.

Thanks, I will try this mod tommorow ...ntg4 (w204) to ng4(w212).

For the upgrade from ntg4 to ntg4.5 ... I tried before but not works, if @Minuszeit or someone done it sucessful please share how it can be done.

Thanks

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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 12:24 PM
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In 2-3 weeks the upgrade from NTG4 to 4.5 is done.
The problem is not to make the HU run, the main problem is to make it run with the NTG4 flip screen unit due to the different LVDS signal. My DIY converter NTG4 LVDS to NTG4.5 LVDS signal is still in progress.
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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cool make a seperate topic then
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 08:28 PM
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Minuszeit: how difficult was it to install W212 climate control on your W204?
Was there allot of modification that you had to to make it work.
Did you have to purchase a specific control unit to match your W204 car?
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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Minuszeit: also you mention this in earlier post: "As I mentioned before, you just have to change the upper part of the facelift speedometers housing against the old one."

What do you mean that we have to chance "upper part" "agains the old one".

Do if I have 2010 C300 W204 and I purchase speedometer from 2012 W204. Do I need to use/keep my old cluster housing and swap out the internals of the speedometer?

Thank you for all the info
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Old Jul 20, 2015 | 09:53 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 11:06 AM
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I love the Color Cluster

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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Minuszeit
I retrofitted the facelift speedometer in my pre facelift 204 one year ago.
It's also possible to enable the AMG menu in non AMG speedometers.





Pardon my question, but did you need to SCN code it or connect it to STAR?
I already have the 12 button SW and the Monochrome MFD Speedo
What would happen if you took a new cluster and plugged it in directly without SCN/STAR?

My Stealers here are a bunch of tossers who don't want to help in any way at all!

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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Kobzarhomes
Minuszeit: how difficult was it to install W212 climate control on your W204?
Was there allot of modification that you had to to make it work.
Did you have to purchase a specific control unit to match your W204 car?
Thank you
+1 Please?
Also, how did you manage to get the wood panel? Can't find that anywhere..?
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:53 PM
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I also retrofitted some parts of the W212/C207.

- Comand headunit NTG4
- Air condition panel
- Memory switches of the front door control panel
- Front/rear overhead control panel
- Nappa leather armrest
- Nappa Airbag of the R231















Where did u get Air condition panel? How much did it cost? Did it require any soldering / firmware updates or just plug-n-play?
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Old Nov 22, 2015 | 07:17 AM
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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 01:01 AM
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any more info please..?
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:01 AM
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i want to know more info also about the climate control W212, is it plug and play?
and how about the electric seat controller W212, also plug and play?

thanks
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Old May 17, 2017 | 10:48 PM
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Yeah...so no one have any info concerning the AC panel and how to modify the wood panel? Would like to do that mod. Same with memory door switch.
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:08 PM
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Bringing up old thread. Does anyone know if the PCB on pre-facelift cluster the same as the facelift PCB?
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 12:30 AM
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PCB boards are different, to get a newer cluster in a pre-facelift you have to do some soldering and programming. I personally gave up after a few months. Mercedes really makes this all more difficult than is reasonable.
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 02:10 AM
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This swap is very easy if you send the unit to me. I can code it for you and your car. If you have Star Diagnose with Vediamo I can code it to your car remotely.

Here is also My site: www.ckmcardesign.se
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 02:43 AM
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Awesome, don't we have to send both clusters though? And instead of coding remotely, is there a walk thru that could be written up? And how much would it cost for you to do it?
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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 02:53 AM
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by C350King
PCB boards are different, to get a newer cluster in a pre-facelift you have to do some soldering and programming. I personally gave up after a few months. Mercedes really makes this all more difficult than is reasonable.
Thank you! Good info!
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