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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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Oil change: MB dealer or Tire Kingdom?

I will be getting my C300 oil change this week, was deciding if I should use the dealer or not. I think the local tire kingdom will charge $70 bucks for synthetic oil change and they only use Valvoline- not Mobil 1. Does it matter which brand I use. Also how much does Mb dealers charge for an oil change?

called my dealer and he said it will cost $107. Is this a fair price?

--- also what does Complimentary multi-point inspection include?

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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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I would not allow Tire Kingdom to change my tires or oil on my MB, even if it was free.

Tires--use a higher-end specialty shop that can line a MB properly or use the dealer.

Oil--do it yourself with an extractor and the proper oil/filter or take it to the dealer or qualified Indy that you have researched and believe in.

I would not be surprised to see your MB up on the rack and some kid running around under the car looking for the filter.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by c3002008
I will be getting my C300 oil change this week, was deciding if I should use the dealer or not. I think the local tire kingdom will charge $70 bucks for synthetic oil change and they only use Valvoline- not Mobil 1. Does it matter which brand I use. Also how much does Mb dealers charge for an oil change?
Neither.

Don't let a place like tire kingdom (jiffy lube, valvoline, cheeze dog empire) touch your car. I know its an oil change, but they'll put a paper filter in it (they only last 3 months) and you have a 50-50 chance of them either skipping the re-seal O-ring or asking if you know where the drain plug is. I am not kidding.

Dealer is too expensive and they always have kids doing the oil changes. Dealer may not be that bad if you ask them for just the oil change some said they got quotes of like $89. There is value to having the oil changes recorded in the VMI. Just not a $250 value.

Find a good indy and talk with them. you'll see why. Many of them are former MB master techs that got together and started their own company. That is what you want. Sure they'll hire kids too, but they will watch them and train them properly.

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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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But, if you don't have a good indy handy, there is no choice....must be the dealer. The quick lube oil change horror stories are well known. My son made this mistake once, and sure enough, had the wrong oil used and had to have it drained out the next day at the dealership. I would not trust the quickie places to blow dust off the valve stem.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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--- also what does Complimentary multi-point inspection include?
I'm sure there is an official definition to this somewhere, but in reality what it means is that they will go through your car with a fine-tooth comb to see if they can spot anything they could sell you in addition to the oil change.

Of course you can always decline any additional repairs, but basically that is what it means: more business.

Sometimes they actually might find something significant, but usually they just try to upsell. To the tune of fuel injector cleaning for $xxx and so on.
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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Do It ur self if you can I just did my this last weekend its easy but if you have no idea on how then I would take it to the dealer. Also Mobil 1 euro blend is what you should be using
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And this is the liqui vac I used it seemed to work pretty good
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ddeliber
Neither.

Don't let a place like tire kingdom (jiffy lube, valvoline, cheeze dog empire) touch your car. I know its an oil change, but they'll put a paper filter in it (they only last 3 months) and you have a 50-50 chance of them either skipping the re-seal O-ring or asking if you know where the drain plug is. I am not kidding.

Dealer is too expensive and they always have kids doing the oil changes. Dealer may not be that bad if you ask them for just the oil change some said they got quotes of like $89. There is value to having the oil changes recorded in the VMI. Just not a $250 value.

Find a good indy and talk with them. you'll see why. Many of them are former MB master techs that got together and started their own company. That is what you want. Sure they'll hire kids too, but they will watch them and train them properly.

Best way purchase the correct oil and filter from MB
Give them to the local shop shop and they charge you for labor
You then know what is going in your engine

http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html MB approved oils

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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hey thanks for all the replies... yeah I was a bit apprehensive to let a quck oil change place to mess with my car. I don't have the patience or the right tools to change my own oil. I will let the dealer charge me the inflated $110. I reset my service B few weeks back because I did not want to cough up 450 bucks for it-- just bought the car few months back. So when I get the oil change wouldn't the free complimentary multi point inspection cover everything that a service B would include?
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 11:55 AM
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hey thanks for all the replies... yeah I was a bit apprehensive to let a quck oil change place to mess with my car. I don't have the patience or the right tools to change my own oil. I will let the dealer charge me the inflated $110. I reset my service B few weeks back because I did not want to cough up 450 bucks for it-- just bought the car few months back. So when I get the oil change wouldn't the free complimentary multi point inspection cover everything that a service B would include?
B also has a brake fluid fllush which should happen every 20k and a cabin air filter in addition to the checks.

At 40k there is a required tranny service - fluid change and I believe the air filters. Dealer price on the tranny service is rediculous but you really should do this while in warranty otherwise they'll charge you for any tranny work they need to do. Indy will charge like $150ish dealer like $400.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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My big service is coming up, my local dealer quoted me $400 for B service and $400 for transmission....
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Our warranty is about to finish and we are having one last dealer service due to warranty work needed also

when it runs out however we will be looking for a merc independent or a quality reliable garage. It is after all a oil and filter change not a mercedes capable only item

That said I'm happy to use the fast oil change places on my 94 jeep but would not use them on the wifes merc

I know this will sound snobby and it's not something that's intended

when we bought the merc we did our homework, we knew it would need higher grade gas, longer trips to a decent workshop( sturgis to denver anyone ) , and a higher maintenance cost. had we thought we did not want to pay the higher cost of keeping it on the road then we wouldn't have bought it.

So as to your oil change, if you can do it yourself then try it. next if you can't then look for a decent local garage or independent merc specialist and lastly a merc dealer

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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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Personally, I would be fine with paying a premium for dealer service. Just not a 300% markup. I won't start a rant here about this but if you are curious take a look at the last two pages or so of the following for my opinion and what I found out about this stuff:

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...servicing.html

That $110 quote for an oil change, I would do that if I didn't get the $89 quote I referenced. just not $250-300 for svc A
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B also has a brake fluid fllush which should happen every 20k and a cabin air filter in addition to the checks.

At 40k there is a required tranny service - fluid change and I believe the air filters. Dealer price on the tranny service is rediculous but you really should do this while in warranty otherwise they'll charge you for any tranny work they need to do. Indy will charge like $150ish dealer like $400.
Brake fluid change is every two years, not every 20K miles. Read your manual.
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Old Jan 10, 2013 | 10:56 PM
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Brake fluid change is every two years, not every 20K miles. Read your manual.
Lol, I did. the service interval is every year or 10k whichever is first. Service B is at 2/20 whichever is first. Granted brake fluid should probably be done based on time as it is more a factor of how contaminated the fluid gets with water, but we are talking service intervals here. and B is 2/20.
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Lol, I did. the service interval is every year or 10k whichever is first. Service B is at 2/20 whichever is first. Granted brake fluid should probably be done based on time as it is more a factor of how contaminated the fluid gets with water, but we are talking service intervals here. and B is 2/20.
I don't know what you are referring to. Your W212 maintenance guide clearly shows a brake fluid change every other year.

MB has always said change it every two years.
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I don't know what you are referring to. Your W212 maintenance guide clearly shows a brake fluid change every other year.

MB has always said change it every two years.
the 20 next to the 2 means 20k miles. It is whichever comes first.
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$110 may sound like a lot for an oil change, but when you consider that it's basically one oil change per year, that's not unreasonable at all.
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