Returning to Mercedes
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Returning to Mercedes
Hello all,
After nearly seven years without a car (live in NYC), I going to buy a car as I am moving in the near future.
I've started looking at C classes (used to own a 2004 C230 SS). I found a really nice, brand new, 2012 C 250 @ a dealership. Stats are: special order that didn't go through, silver, fully loaded (navi, rear view camera, h/k stereo, 18" AMG wheels, bix, Keyless Go, etc).
How is the 4 cyc turbo? Does it idle loud / rough?
Dealership is asking ~$43k. Sticker is ~$49k. It doesn't sound unreasonable, but it feels high given (i) it's a 2012, (ii) they've had in on the lot for over 6 months, (iii) forthcoming C class redesign (2014, right?). I'd like to get the car sub-$40k.
What do you guys think? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!
After nearly seven years without a car (live in NYC), I going to buy a car as I am moving in the near future.
I've started looking at C classes (used to own a 2004 C230 SS). I found a really nice, brand new, 2012 C 250 @ a dealership. Stats are: special order that didn't go through, silver, fully loaded (navi, rear view camera, h/k stereo, 18" AMG wheels, bix, Keyless Go, etc).
How is the 4 cyc turbo? Does it idle loud / rough?
Dealership is asking ~$43k. Sticker is ~$49k. It doesn't sound unreasonable, but it feels high given (i) it's a 2012, (ii) they've had in on the lot for over 6 months, (iii) forthcoming C class redesign (2014, right?). I'd like to get the car sub-$40k.
What do you guys think? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your help!
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I would think you might be able to get a better deal. Of course, NYC is completely different than DC, so I could be wrong.
Perspective - I got my 2013 C250 Luxury, Premium 1 Pack, Multimedia Package (NAV/rear camera) for $37600. MSRP was $42600 or so. I would think a 2012 should be less expensive than a 2013. Only thing you have extra is KeyLess Go and AMG wheels? Not sure what you mean by "bix".
No, the car doesn't idle rough at all. It's actually very smooth at idle and throughout the rev range.
Good luck.
Perspective - I got my 2013 C250 Luxury, Premium 1 Pack, Multimedia Package (NAV/rear camera) for $37600. MSRP was $42600 or so. I would think a 2012 should be less expensive than a 2013. Only thing you have extra is KeyLess Go and AMG wheels? Not sure what you mean by "bix".
No, the car doesn't idle rough at all. It's actually very smooth at idle and throughout the rev range.
Good luck.
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I purchased mine at 36k, which is a 2013 C250 sport which doesn't have backup camera but does have becker maps, so something tells me they're trying to cheat you just a little =P No the car is extremely smooth! In idle its as if it is off. Love the car but only regrets you may have with it is not getting the 300 or 350 with a V6. Overall, I definitely love my car. Also yes the new style c-class will be in the market in roughly 5-7 months.
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I think it would be difficult to go below 40k on a fully loaded BRAND NEW C250. Maybe you can deal somewhere between 42k~43k but I think thats the most you can ask for. A friend ofmine bought a 2010 bmw 335is USED for 32k I believe with a sticker price of 40k. Then again this was a used car so it was possible.
If you can wait for the '14 model then that would be a good idea. But it seems like you need a car ASAP so this would be a good buy. Thats a lot of car your getting for 43k. I think if you play your cards right, you can probably get ~41k for it.
Good luck and those options are some that I regret not getting. Totally worth it.
If you can wait for the '14 model then that would be a good idea. But it seems like you need a car ASAP so this would be a good buy. Thats a lot of car your getting for 43k. I think if you play your cards right, you can probably get ~41k for it.
Good luck and those options are some that I regret not getting. Totally worth it.
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Awesome reply guys and thank you for tendering your responses.
I am definitely psyched by the idea of having a car again. $43k was their first offer, so I think there is room to go down further. I am definitely not in a rush - I need the car for June, so I might float a number that I think is more reasonable ($37k to $39k) and let them sit on it for a month or so. If they sell it to someone else, no big deal. If they don't, then I will buy it.
Car also has paddle shifters (not sure the purpose for a 4cyc!), Leather Seating Package, Advanced Agility Package (what is this), Lane Tracking Package (is this worthless?)
Also, if I buy the car all cash, will that help my cause?
Thanks again
I am definitely psyched by the idea of having a car again. $43k was their first offer, so I think there is room to go down further. I am definitely not in a rush - I need the car for June, so I might float a number that I think is more reasonable ($37k to $39k) and let them sit on it for a month or so. If they sell it to someone else, no big deal. If they don't, then I will buy it.
Car also has paddle shifters (not sure the purpose for a 4cyc!), Leather Seating Package, Advanced Agility Package (what is this), Lane Tracking Package (is this worthless?)
Also, if I buy the car all cash, will that help my cause?
Thanks again
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All cash probably will cut some costs. Paddle shifters, lane tracking is useless unless you doze off alot behind the wheel. Advanced agility adjusts the suspension to give it a more sporty feel. Activating sport mode in mine only makes it start in 1st gear and revs higher. With Adv. Agi. It stiffens or softens suspension to complete the sport mode. Good option.
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I can see MB perhaps giving it an upgraded engine next year, but I don't see it changing much otherwise until the redesign for MY 2015.
The engine is pretty rough when cold and makes a distinct ticking noise. It smooths out considerably when warmed up, but you'll never mistake it for anything but a (very refined) turbo 4-cylinder....
BTW, $41,000 - 42,000 seems like a more reasonable offer to me. Not sure why you expect $10,000+ off on a car that's not quite $50,000 MSRP and not out-of-date, even if it's been on the dealer lot for a long time. From what I can remember, MB (at least in LA) was easily offering $10,000+ off on 2009 E350s, but that was when the new 2010 replacements had already been announced and were close to shipping (and the MSRPs were $50,000+).
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I heard new model 2015 released mid to late 2014 as well. Even Mercedes own press releases regarding the Vance Alabama plant say they are retooling now and building the new c will start in early 2014. I read, maybe in this forum, the Geneva auto show 2014, which is in March or April will be the official unveiling.
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Awesome reply guys and thank you for tendering your responses.
I am definitely psyched by the idea of having a car again. $43k was their first offer, so I think there is room to go down further. I am definitely not in a rush - I need the car for June, so I might float a number that I think is more reasonable ($37k to $39k) and let them sit on it for a month or so. If they sell it to someone else, no big deal. If they don't, then I will buy it.
Car also has paddle shifters (not sure the purpose for a 4cyc!), Leather Seating Package, Advanced Agility Package (what is this), Lane Tracking Package (is this worthless?)
Also, if I buy the car all cash, will that help my cause?
Thanks again
I am definitely psyched by the idea of having a car again. $43k was their first offer, so I think there is room to go down further. I am definitely not in a rush - I need the car for June, so I might float a number that I think is more reasonable ($37k to $39k) and let them sit on it for a month or so. If they sell it to someone else, no big deal. If they don't, then I will buy it.
Car also has paddle shifters (not sure the purpose for a 4cyc!), Leather Seating Package, Advanced Agility Package (what is this), Lane Tracking Package (is this worthless?)
Also, if I buy the car all cash, will that help my cause?
Thanks again
Good Luck.
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I heard new model 2015 released mid to late 2014 as well. Even Mercedes own press releases regarding the Vance Alabama plant say they are retooling now and building the new c will start in early 2014. I read, maybe in this forum, the Geneva auto show 2014, which is in March or April will be the official unveiling.
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