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Can Mods just close this thread already? There will never be updates to this, ever. Just bickering and misinformation.
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Originally Posted by DapperStyle
(Post 6193523)
Can Mods just close this thread already? There will never be updates to this, ever. Just bickering and misinformation.
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Originally Posted by xjaymzzx
(Post 6195034)
Stfu :wwf:
Seriously read all the posts and see if you come out with any real information, there is none. |
Kleemann updated their website. Kleemann headquarters is straight up claiming that the M276 engines in the C300 and C350 are identical, and listing the tunes as having identical gains.
Before, we only had speculation and a couple of emails. There was a lot of controversy because OE tuning claimed that the engines were mechanically different. They sent me a cease and desist via PM when I called them out to prove it. I'm really hoping that with these new claims that they have dynos to back it up. I guess this is either another baseless claim, or OE tuning was false in their claim that the engines were mechanically different. The latest generation normally aspirated, direct injected, 3.5 liter M276 V6 engine, with a maximum of 306 HP and 370Nm (272 lb-ft) of torque, is a powerful and smooth mid range engine. This engine is available in the 2012+ C, CLS, E, and ML. Our R&D department has spent an enormous amount of time perfecting the ECU software for this engine. An increase in power of up to 330 HP and 400 Nm (296 lb-ft), as well as improved throttle response and raised speed limiter, is now available. As a unique KLEEMANN feature, we have managed to improve the software in the 300 models (which is, in fact, the same engine as the 350, but intentionally limited in power production by the factory) so the new power level becomes the same level as the 350, plus tuning gains. 300 owners will gain what is a normally unheard of improvement in power and torque from an ECU tuning. 300-K1(BE): ECU tuning. Up to 330 HP and 400 Nm (296 lb-ft) of torque. 350-K1(BE): ECU tuning. Up to 330 HP and 400 Nm (296 lb-ft) of torque. |
question is, kleeman claims you get 330 HP and somebody pays for the ecu tune and somebody DYNO their car afterwards and its not 330 HP. Do you get your money back? They should also pay for the dyno fee as well :P
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Not likely. Almost every tuner claims "up to xx horsepower" instead of "at least xx horsepower". In the best case scenario, with one of their technicians on the dyno, with correct fuel, air density, engine health, etc. you might get 330HP.
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Can anyone translate this Chinese forum post? lol
http://club.autohome.com.cn/bbs/thre...6643133-1.html |
AWD dynos are not hard to find... Is there any other reason why someone with this tune and 4matic hasn't spent sub $100 to do a couple pulls at a speed shop somewhere?
Hell, could we start a fund and all chip in $5 to pay for said person to dyno their car for proof? |
Stop talking sense... the tuning company themselves don't even want to dyno it...:crazy:
Originally Posted by FFM
(Post 6313045)
AWD dynos are not hard to find... Is there any other reason why someone with this tune and 4matic hasn't spent sub $100 to do a couple pulls at a speed shop somewhere?
Hell, could we start a fund and all chip in $5 to pay for said person to dyno their car for proof? |
AWD dynos are not hard to find here in Florida. But I don't have a 4matic
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I guess I am wondering, if I pony up a before and after dyno (there's a mustang dyno 15 minutes from my house) and the results aren't even half of what's claimed is a refund in order? Or half price on the tune?
Because having my brand new car down a week better account for something... |
Argh.. Guess not for 2011. Only for 2012+?
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I'll talk to them about a K1+ and see what they can offer. I have a '10 C350 though
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Shoot me the money to DYNO and I'll do it.
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Originally Posted by Becksan
(Post 6315530)
I'll talk to them about a K1+ and see what they can offer. I have a '10 C350 though
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Originally Posted by MrMeth90
(Post 6315573)
Shoot me the money to DYNO and I'll do it.
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i'll throw in $10 for dyno
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I got email from Cory:
Hello Roger- Thanks for writing! We do offer an ECU tune for the M272 V6 engine found in your C300. The price is $795.00 and gains are typically +20-25 HP/TQ, improved throttle response and we remove the top speed limiter. If you have any other questions, don’t hesitate to let me know. Thanks again! Cory Umemoto Technical Manager Sound great! |
Originally Posted by BenzAMX
(Post 6318422)
I got email from Cory:
Hello Roger- Thanks for writing! We do offer an ECU tune for the M272 V6 engine found in your C300. The price is $795.00 and gains are typically +20-25 HP/TQ, improved throttle response and we remove the top speed limiter. If you have any other questions, don’t hesitate to let me know. Thanks again! Cory Umemoto Technical Manager Sound great! |
Originally Posted by JaredP
(Post 6318548)
Hey man, No offense...
There are many many threads regarding various tunes... ...but this is not one of them. |
OK it has been done. I took my stock 2013 c300 to the AWD DYNO and ran a baseline. Cory will be getting my ECU next week and i will post before and after test results for the tune. This should put an end to all the back and forth. Im hoping the test shows it blows the horse power up.
ps. baseline showed 253.7hp at engine 220.6 at the wheels |
Originally Posted by scuba357
(Post 6342377)
OK it has been done. I took my stock 2013 c300 to the AWD DYNO and ran a baseline. Cory will be getting my ECU next week and i will post before and after test results for the tune. This should put an end to all the back and forth. Im hoping the test shows it blows the horse power up.
ps. baseline showed 253.7hp at engine 220.6 at the wheels |
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0c53fef449.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...db2c5fb208.jpg It may be important to note, i also did the magna flow x-pipe and resonator deletes. it sounds better, but i don't believe it actually helped any as the stock exhaust is pretty dialed in. |
Excellent!
Plus we are twins, except the original owner of ours opted for black seat belts with the Sport+ package. What a butthole :P |
I'm interested to see the results. I have a 2014 C300 4MATIC, and these numbers sound too good to pass up
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