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Well if I say all works then also of course lights work as well.
Yes. It will work. Just ignore the function.
Just did the swap of both the steering wheel and the clock spring. The controls of the clock spring are working fine (headlights, wipers...etc) but none of the controls of the steering are working, not even the horn, so am not sure why it's not compatible, as it was previously fitted on a C300 just fine. A bit disappointed really
Going to drown my sorrows with vodka and trouble-shoot tomorrow.
Just did the swap of both the steering wheel and the clock spring. The controls of the clock spring are working fine (headlights, wipers...etc) but none of the controls of the steering are working, not even the horn, so am not sure why it's not compatible, as it was previously fitted on a C300 just fine. A bit disappointed really
Going to drown my sorrows with vodka and trouble-shoot tomorrow.
Then they cant come from the same car. Wich I understood they did.
Not sure what you mean mate but the guy had both the steering and clock spring fitted on his 2010 pre facelift C300 with no issues. He removed them because he's selling the car.
I just put my original clock spring back and tried it with the new steering wheel and same problem. Steering controls are not working
Also tried his clock spring with my original steering wheel and everything works correctly, so it's definitely his steering wheel issue. I checked all the wiring on the new steering wheel and everything seems to be connected correctly, so am not sure if the brown plug has a fault in it or if the problem is somewhere in the connections from the steering switches.
In any case, I have decided to return the stuff and have put my steering wheel back on.
One thing I have mastered out of all this, is that I can remove and fit a steering wheel blind-folded
Last edited by AussieC250; Oct 21, 2017 at 11:05 PM.
After doing a bit more search on the internet, I came across THIS article which seems to list the problems I have encountered and the possible solution which requires a chip swap and that seems to be the case with my C250 (unlucky for me)
It's no longer a simple plug 'n play solution but it's worth a shot (still not very sure).
After doing a bit more search on the internet, I came across THIS article which seems to list the problems I have encountered and the possible solution which requires a chip swap and that seems to be the case with my C250 (unlucky for me)
It's no longer a simple plug 'n play solution but it's worth a shot (still not very sure).
It is impossible that all worked in his car then..As long as these 2 comes from same car they should work in yours as well. Never heard of this..Or have it happen to me. On the other hand I always do the 2016 wheels.
It is impossible that all worked in his car then..As long as these 2 comes from same car they should work in yours as well. Never heard of this..Or have it happen to me. On the other hand I always do the 2016 wheels.
Not impossible at all mate, as if you read in the start of this thread 2 other guys with pre-facelift C300s experienced the exact issue, so not all models are the same and I have one of those models that is not compatible with the flat bottom steering chip. Am also not sure why you keep saying that the 2 parts would need to come from the same car, as it has not relation if the clockspring is from one car and the steering is from other and the fact that my old steering worked with the new clockspring and that some guys managed to get the flat bottom steering working with their old clockspring/column is proof of that too.
FYI guys, I didn't change my steering column and my illumination works. I don't know why it works, it just did. I didn't have to do anything special. So, I am not sure why ppl have this issue. Now, I need to find some time to take it apart again so I can criss-cross the wires for the paddle shifters. I'll post more pictures if I can get the paddle shifters working as I suspect that it will since user "npat4" said that it worked for him after I made the suggestion.
Hi Romeo, not sure if you're still around on this forum but if you're, I'd be interested to know if you managed to get your paddle shifters working and how? I will be following the guide you have put in place for the chip swap and like you, I kept looking at the wiring for the paddle shiftrers and wasn't sure where the need to get plugged-in after the chip swap from the old steering wheel.
I have decided to ditch this modification, as I am simply not prepared to butcher my existing 2011 C250 airbag wiring to transfer the chip across to the FL steering wheel.
The guy that sold it to me has assured me it worked fine on his 2010 C300 as recent as 4 weeks ago and is prepared to refund me my money and take the steering wheel and the clock-spring back, so am going to do that and just drive around with my boring 4-spoke black steering wheel with a wheel cover to make it feel a bit thicker
It's a shame really, as I drove around with the flat bottom steering wheel for one day and I really LOVED it and loved how it handles and feels but some things are not meant to be and there are just too many variants that have been unconfirmed by those who have done the chip transfer for me to go ahead and waste over $1000 on this modification which I'd rather use for the Quad Exhaust System instead
So, in summary not all pre-facelift C-Class models are compatible with this steering mod, so be careful before you go ahead and spend hundreds of Dollars buying a steering wheel, clock-spring and an airbag.
Not impossible at all mate, as if you read in the start of this thread 2 other guys with pre-facelift C300s experienced the exact issue, so not all models are the same and I have one of those models that is not compatible with the flat bottom steering chip. Am also not sure why you keep saying that the 2 parts would need to come from the same car, as it has not relation if the clockspring is from one car and the steering is from other and the fact that my old steering worked with the new clockspring and that some guys managed to get the flat bottom steering working with their old clockspring/column is proof of that too.
I dont say they MUST come from the same car. Just that it is a way to be more sure. How can you say it has nothing to do with the clock spring and that it depends on model? Has nothing to do with model. They work on any model as long as the wheel is the corect one for the clock spring. You just have a non matching pair. All I say is that if they are both from the same car you are 100% sure it works. Thats all. You can use MANY different clock springs that also could work. I have never had one that didnt work for example. For example on my 2012 E63 I havefrom factory the new wheel but a old clock spring. But they match internaly. So it is a bit of a jungle...
Another example is that the clock spring looks identical from W222 and W205 but do not work on older cars and wheels and so on..
Last edited by Chris The Swede; Oct 23, 2017 at 03:39 AM.
I dont say they MUST come from the same car. Just that it is a way to be more sure. How can you say it has nothing to do with the clock spring and that it depends on model? Has nothing to do with model. They work on any model as long as the wheel is the correct one for the clock spring. You just have a non matching pair. All I say is that if they are both from the same car you are 100% sure it works. Thats all. You can use MANY different clock springs that also could work. I have never had one that didnt work for example. For example on my 2012 E63 I have from factory the new wheel but a old clock spring. But they match internaly. So it is a bit of a jungle...
Another example is that the clock spring looks identical from W222 and W205 but do not work on older cars and wheels and so on..
Sorry mate but what you're saying simply doesn't make sense because we have guys here who have purchased steering wheels, airbags and clock-springs all separately and it worked for them just fine and the fact that I got my old steering wheel to work with the new clock-spring without any problems, also means that it has nothing to do with the clock-spring but it has everything to do with the car itself being able to communicate with the steering wheel chip. If the guy assures me that this combination of this clock-spring and this exact steering wheel worked on his 2010 C300, then I have to trust what he says, the steering wheel chip can't communicate with my car and that's all it matters. The part numbers for everything are as follows and you can tell me if there is a mismatch:
Sorry mate but what you're saying simply doesn't make sense because we have guys here who have purchased steering wheels, airbags and clock-springs all separately and it worked for them just fine and the fact that I got my old steering wheel to work with the new clock-spring without any problems, also means that it has nothing to do with the clock-spring but it has everything to do with the car itself being able to communicate with the steering wheel chip. If the guy assures me that this combination of this clock-spring and this exact steering wheel worked on his 2010 C300, then I have to trust what he says, the steering wheel chip can't communicate with my car and that's all it matters. The part numbers for everything are as follows and you can tell me if there is a mismatch:
That is what I asked. IF they came from same car? That means if these 2 100% worked in his car I call it comming from the same car. You say that your old wheel work with the new clock spring? Then it has to do with the cluster version you have. Wich version do you have? The small one or the big one? That is also one of the reasons it sometimes dont work.
That is what I asked. IF they came from same car? That means if these 2 100% worked in his car I call it comming from the same car. You say that your old wheel work with the new clock spring? Then it has to do with the cluster version you have. Wich version do you have? The small one or the big one? That is also one of the reasons it sometimes dont work.
Not sure what you mean by the cluster version and reading all previous pages of this thread there wasn't a single post about the cluster type having a relation to this modification.
Attached is a photo of my cluster and steering wheel.
Yes it does sometimes. That is the corect big one..So this must be a uniqe problem to the the W204 then since I have done this for 20 years and never experienced this problem. So strange.I actually want proof it worked in his car. That is how confusing this is. If this is true then the chip swap is the easiest way for you I think. I mean these wheels have even been installed in old W211 models..
I sent you my VIN just now but I will not being doing the chip swap, as I want to retain my old steering and airbag without damage and because there far too many un-answered questions with the chip swap that this thread didn't address (yet).
I sent you my VIN just now but I will not being doing the chip swap, as I want to retain my old steering and airbag without damage and because there far too many un-answered questions with the chip swap that this thread didn't address (yet).
I have checked the VIN to the partnumbers you provided and it should work 100% in your car. As I said. So something is not corect here. He must have done something to it.
I have checked the VIN to the partnumbers you provided and it should work 100% in your car. As I said. So something is not corect here. He must have done something to it.
OK thanks for checking, I will buy them from somewhere else then. Cheers
2011 C300 4Matic, 2007 Shelby GT, 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Hello All.
My 1st post and my 1st question. I read up on just about everything regarding this steering wheel upgrade and I am little fuzzy, and I mean just a little, on how to proceed. So I have a 2011 C300 4Matic with a standard 3 yoke,12 button steering wheel. (no paddles) I went and purchased a 2012-2016 C63/E63/SLK AMG Steering Wheel with airbag and w/Shifting paddles off eBay. It arrived today and I installed it. As I was hoping to defy the norm. Alas my steering wheel buttons and horn don't function. Ok, I had hopes. So it would seem that I fit in that category of having to be the guy who has to, 1. buy a upper steering column (Clock spring), as I don't know which one to get? That's the fuzzy part I mentioned, in order to get at least the buttons to work. (paddles functioning or illumination are no factors for me), or 2, tear apart my old 3 yoke steering wheel and pull the circuit board/chip and install in the new steering wheel. So I was wondering, which direction do I go? Your help is greatly appreciated. -FB P.S. If I purchased instead a 2010 or 2011 AMG style steering wheel, would that be a plug and play and maybe having the buttons work? I figured because I have a 2012-2016 steering wheel is why I have these issues.
2011 C300 4Matic, 2007 Shelby GT, 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Roger That Chris. I will go forward and purchase a 2014 Upper steering column (clock spring). Wish me luck, and i'll keep you all posted on the results. -FB
2011 C300 4Matic, 2007 Shelby GT, 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Originally Posted by Chris The Swede
First of all its not a up to 2016 wheel. up to early 2015 maybe.
Second..Simplest way I think is aiming for the 2014up clock spring.
Quick question Chris. Will a 2013 clock spring work? Or do I need a 2014 or higher? I also need the small cluster, Right? As I have only 2 stems. I seen some 2013-15 clock springs that have 4 stems, and wondering if those will work? ( I understand that not all those stems will work.) Also, do you have a part number for the clock spring I need or would be the best match? Tack! -FB
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