xjaymzzx

http://www.eurocharged.com/products/...oftware-detail

Do you think its just a typo? or is it for reals?

allenp99

this is certainly a typo considering a stock +2012 c300 does NOT make 306hp/272tq. The 2012+ c350, however, does. If you look at the product link for the c350 on their website you'll see the numbers are exactly the same.

Schlitter

I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. Email them and ask for clarification

FFM

Based on what Merc did with the C63 and these 3.5L supposedly being identical it's likely possible that the same numbers should be attainable. If they are in fact identical.

Purchase and report back with dyno numbers

DapperStyle

C63 has a 6.2L V8

xjaymzzx

Think he meant c350 not c63

FFM

Lol, I am aware.

I was using the C63 as an example. The base C63 V8 and the 507 are identical. Merc reduced the maximum throttle input on the base to 80%, thus a simple tune, and you have 507 edition power levels.

Makes me wonder if the 3.5L shared between the C300/350 supposedly being identical, have a similar "detune". Thus the power gains for each from the same tune should be similar. Whatever the C350 maxes out at, the C300 should as well.

Again, assuming that's the case and it's hidden within the tuning.

loungn14

xjaymzzx

i got a reply from eurocharged that is indeed correct that a tune can get up to 330 HP.

"James,

The 2012+ C300/C350 share the same engine, and hence would get the same end power post tune. You would have to go to our Houston or Toronto location, or ship the ecu to get the tune performed.



Hope that helps.




Jake Pedersen

Eurocharged Performance
http://www.eurocharged.com/
(713) 462-1600 - Office
jake@eurocharged.com"

xjaymzzx

The tune from eurocharged is about half the price of kleemann at $600!

FFM

I'm sure it's been mentioned in the past.

Is altered software detectable from a dealer standpoint?

I used to work for Volvo and believe there was an actual fault code that would store indicating it had. Could be a problem for my warrant haha.

loungn14

I can't say that the tune is not detectable but there isn't any codes present like the volvo. The other thing you need to think about is the chance the dealer sends the ecu to germany is extremely slim on the c350/300 Then again, we could always flash you stock if you wanted too for dealer visits.

FFM

Thanks for the info.

Will have to ask the wife if she wants a 70hp increase

aznmode

Too bad the C300 3.0L can only be upped by 18hp/17tq. Probably not worth the $599 price.

Drazil

Do all of the EuroCharged locations do the programming in-house? This would make things a lot faster as well as half the cost of Kleeman....

xjaymzzx

The guy said only the houston and toronto location does them in the email.

Newzchspy

Jake, how are you old friend?? I am hoping that when it hits the streets this summer you guys can do something for the new C450 4 Matic ( you know, that OTHER AMG) that's running about 360 stock. I'd take another " hunnert" HP on that and with AWD, it would be a monster!!!

DapperStyle

Ah sorry I completely misread the post. I hope your assumptions are correct and Eurocharged can provide dyno info because if they do a group buy I'd be interested.

xjaymzzx

once they post dyno info; people will be jumping on the tune and we all get a good deal (with a group buy) everybody wins!

FFM

Indeed.

I'm not surprised by the skepticism. However once people understand your basically getting equal to what a stock C350 puts out, the gains past that are not as mind blowing as one would think.

xjaymzzx

When i was purchasing a new c class in 2012, i had a option of getting a deal on 2012 or special order a 2013 and wait months. The detuned engine and a ecu tune to get it to c350 power caused me to wait a couple months. It seemed like it took forever to come and then i couldnt find a ecu tuner that would do it/provide proof or even post it on their website or else it wouldve been my first mod. Till now! Tbh the fact that eurocharged posted the tune on their website and they are obviously well respected on this forum. I would do it right now but the woman wants to see proof (before committing). I am planning getting a dyno afterwards as well to shove it in doubters faces as well.

Ps: i like you ffm i always agree with everyone of your posts

FFM

scuba357

So i am new the Mercedes world. i bought a 2013 c300 4matic sport+ and was in love with the car other than the power. (sad face) so i immediately started looking at tunes. I found both Kleemann and eurocharged. I went and ran a dyno last week and got my baseline. I then called and spoke with both Kleemann and eurocharged. What a HUGE difference. I was sent to cory at Kleemann. I seriously have talked to him like 10 times now with different questions and concerns. After the forum saw i was going to tune after my dyno, someone posted about how much cheaper eurocharged was. I don't want to waste money so i called them. I was told the best thing to do was email their tuner. I did. And got no response. So i called again a few days later and spoke to the most aragant little *****. He would not let me talk to a tuner, but said all the information i needed was on the website. I asked about specifics on warranty stuff and if they had ever ran a dyno or are just guessing on numbers. He told me if i had those questions to call the office in Canada. In other words. No help, i don't think these guys have a clue what they are doing other than plugging in your edu with a simple file they bought. CRAPPY Customer service. I don't care if Kleemann does cost more, I wouldn't send the computer to my car to someone who won't even talk to me.
PS> sent Kleemann the ecu today, should be back tues and ill get it dynoed again.

FFM

Sorry to hear about your experience. Hopefully Euro can chime in. Customer service is a big deal to me as well. When I sold custom Volvo products aka the acronym in my name ForceFed Motorsports I always tried to be as helpful as possible. Whether a customer or not bad reviews spread quickly on the Internet haha.

scuba357

I hope it was just an isolated incidence. But it is not like i was asking for the colonels secret chicken recipe. I just wanted basic info. before i felt comfortable sending my ecu and my $. I am happy to post about any better response i get from them in the future. Until then. Im excited to see what close to 320 hp feels like in our cars. I 'like" the way it drives now in sport mode I'm hoping to "LOVE" it after next week.