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So the 1 off prototype will be ready by this weekend and I will have 2 types of cold air intakes for the W204. You guys will love these coming out, and it will be a true "cold" air intake.
I also just received my RaceChip throttle tuner. First off it has 6 different stages, and it has in my opinion, 3 levels, and there are 2 settings per each level. Now stage 1 & 2 are in their words "gas effiency". IMO stage 1 is completely useless on a publics highway because it retards the the throttle Input signal so drastically, that you will have a hard time accelerating from a dead stop. Stage 2 is around that same category so those 2 has efficient stages IMO are useless. Now stage 3 feels similar to the car being set on "E" but with quicker response on throttle input and has cured that lag associated with being in "E" mode, and then stage 4, again, feels similar to the car being in "s" mode but with more of a punch. Now the real fun begins........
Upon having the car set on stage 5, it really makes your car feels like it has an additional 50 HP and 50lb ft of torque. My car does have a few mods, so that could ad to the reason why I felt like I had an additional 50 hp and 50 torque.
The reason behind it,is because stage 5 and 6 are how sports mode in super are are suppose to be. There's no delay in acceleration what so ever, and I e noticed it has great points where it down/up shift at, but the Mai. Thing is that it makes the car accelerate so quickly that it eliminates turbo lag! I noticed that my turbo gauge was flying from 1 then to 10 psi with applying light pressure and since it responds quick you are able to transfer all your HP and Torque to the pavement easily. I only use stage 6 for racing because the cars turbo likes to go from 1 to 17psi very quickly and easily. I'm sorry that I can't offer any comparison against the sprinter because this is the only throttle tuner I bought, but I can say that if you bought the BMS tuner and think it cures the throttle lag, you'll definitely feel a huge difference, and I mean HUGE with this tuner. Anyways, that's my opinion on this product, and I am selling my BMS tuner as well , if anyone wants to pick up a used one for cheap message me. I am going with a vivid, brabus, or race chip tuner. If you guys have any questions at all feel free to ask.
Not sure on that intake. Seems like the most effective thing would be to have the stock plastic ram air sleeve in the stock location sending cooler air to the open airbox some of which will hopefully get sucked into open air filter cone on the intake. You will still be getting a mix of hot engine compartment air either way with an open air box and cone filter sitting open in a hot engine bay. At least judging from the picture.
A true cold air intake would be a tube running from the turbo compressor inlet to a cool location (like the wheel well or other area outside of the hot engine compartment) and a filter on the end of that. I am glad to see some new developments no matter how flawed though.
Now about the tuning chip, does that only effect throttle response? Basically increasing TPS data to make the car react more quickly? What makes that different from just mashing the gas harder and faster? Does it remove the latency of throttle input to actual response or just turn 15% throttle input into 50% throttle input and so on by increasing TPS percentages? How does this address the lethargic transmission response time?
Sorry so many questions, just trying to gain an understanding of how it works and what it's actually doing. Again glad to seem some new product development for this platform and thanks for your info, input, and application of such developments. Very exciting!
Do not base ideas off the photo. Photo is no where near the actual prototype that incorporates an air box and 2 inlet hoses lifted at a wheel well and the front end.
I don't know any of the actual software used on the tuner but it feels as if the car has an actual throttle cable in the vehicle. When you apply pressure to the pedal it will calculate how much pressure is applied and how quickly and will base the cars acceleration on a few things. Unlike stock where if you go WOT the car downshifts, the. Has a tenth second of, and the. Just goes WOT this will smoothly downshift and you can actually pin it even at 80 or 90% and the car won't re satire it being almost WoT and just start spooling up the turbo the the max psi. Again it would prob be better if I actually contact some one at face chips US branch and ask them because the transmission seems to have new set points for up/Down shifts.
I don't know any of the actual software used on the tuner but it feels as if the car has an actual throttle cable in the vehicle. When you apply pressure to the pedal it will calculate how much pressure is applied and how quickly and will base the cars acceleration on a few things. Unlike stock where if you go WOT the car downshifts, the. Has a tenth second of, and the. Just goes WOT this will smoothly downshift and you can actually pin it even at 80 or 90% and the car won't re satire it being almost WoT and just start spooling up the turbo the the max psi. Again it would prob be better if I actually contact some one at face chips US branch and ask them because the transmission seems to have new set points for up/Down shifts.
That sounds very promising. Throttle cable type response will be a great improvement over the slow stock response. With this chip the Burger tune is no longer needed? The new tuner controls boost as well? Just looked at the website and didnt see the one you have. This is not available yet?
What codes? You getting codes Robert? Also if this adds no boost why get rid of the BMS tuner? It would be great to see some dyno numbers of you current mods, Robert. How do you know how musch boost you are running? Do you have a boost gauge?
What codes? You getting codes Robert? Also if this adds no boost why get rid of the BMS tuner? It would be great to see some dyno numbers of you current mods, Robert. How do you know how musch boost you are running? Do you have a boost gauge?
Robert has the Pedal box not the chiptuning box, so no error codes!!
What do you guys thinks about the Kleeman Tune? I haven't found any real world data on the C250, mostly C300s, C350s. It boast the most HP of all tunes and hardware. Still wanting to know what you want to sell your BMS tuner for, Robert.
What do you guys thinks about the Kleeman Tune? I haven't found any real world data on the C250, mostly C300s, C350s. It boast the most HP of all tunes and hardware. Still wanting to know what you want to sell your BMS tuner for, Robert.
Kleemann is good, i have a Vath tuning now on my C180.... Also a good choice! Stay away from other tuners with prommises!!
I am selling the BMS tuner because I am getting either a custom flash or going with an adjustable vivid racing chip or brabus. The prototype CIA will be done by next Friday because we had to drill into the metal intake arm for all the sensors to be able to mount correctly and DaTM auto oxy will be installing custom louvers into my hood to help cool down the turbo. I am searching for custom turbos and might get that installed ASAP and will figure out who to do the fuel maps for the ecu
I am selling the BMS tuner because I am getting either a custom flash or going with an adjustable vivid racing chip or brabus. The prototype CIA will be done by next Friday because we had to drill into the metal intake arm for all the sensors to be able to mount correctly and DaTM auto oxy will be installing custom louvers into my hood to help cool down the turbo. I am searching for custom turbos and might get that installed ASAP and will figure out who to do the fuel maps for the ecu
Again, how much for your BMS??
An option is to have your stock turbo modified, but I still think the A45 turbo looks very attractive. If you could control boost yourself by bypassing the stock boost solenoid and using an MBC (manual boost controller). Set boost low so the fuel system can keep up. Trouble spot will be overcoming the overboost code.
I would also get in contact with Narry. Hes the only person I've seen here to modify the turbo, and he has developed his own sort of tuning box. Heres his original thread but he has some other threads and posts that are informational as well.
I would also get in contact with Narry. Hes the only person I've seen here to modify the turbo, and he has developed his own sort of tuning box. Heres his original thread but he has some other threads and posts that are informational as well.
Man, that thread is a goldmine! That's what I like to see, someone diving into the platform and making real mechanical improvements. That talk of modifying the turbo valve which I assume it that thing on the compressor housing and not the waste gate. They claim it allows the turbo to hold boost up to 6k rpm instead of falling off. I read that BMS said no matter what they did boost falls to 11psi by redline. I also want to know where they tapped to get boost gauge working. Vacuum line or is it digital thru ECU?
OMG! new charge pipe give the turbo instant spool. Its like having a direct hardline connected to the turbo and when you say "spool' it goes. With the RADO echauist it provides sufficient backpressure to keep the sppol smooth and progressive. The race chip throttle tuner is great because I can have the turbo spool anywhere from 10-100% in between, so I wont have to do full throttle to pass a car and worry about the "overboost" if your using a tuner. The WPN R intake is th best too! I feel like it eliminates the intake from sucking in hot air. The fiulter material is solid so you don't see any l;ight filter into the filter as opposed to a K&N filter or spectre (any filter with cotton gause material). and the "fins" surrounding the filter makes it so it doesn't have any direct contact with any metal/engine bay parts. GET READY FOR THE CIA!!!
The BMS tuner is being sold for $250 and comes with a custom Intake similar the the BMS intake too. It will come with 2 air filters as well. I will post pics later, and do individual breakdown on tuner by itself.
09-16-2015, 07:00 PM
Prototype / Race Chip - Status and review
