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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 12:32 PM
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2012 Mercedes C250 coupe breather issue

So having a bunch of oil leaks and engine's running a bit rough at idle on my wife's 2012 Mercedes C250 1.8l turbo engine (M271). I'm heard that a clogged breather system can cause these issues. I haven't replaced anything related to the breather system and the car has about 150,000kms. I took a video and there is a lot of pressure/blowby when I remove the oil cap.


What's involved in replacing the breather valve or whatever may need replacing in the breather system? I haven't been able to find any good videos/descriptions of what's required to get to the breather hoses. Some mention removing the air intake box and intake manifold (ie .a lot of work). Others say you can get to it from below the engine.

This is the only post I see that's not the same engine but looks similar.

Breather hose replacement

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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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I dont have that engine so not really sure what issue youre describing. When I search "Mercedes M271 breather hose" I come up with tons of information.




here's a few diy post examples:

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...-fix-tips.html

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...acement-2.html
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Old Dec 17, 2023 | 12:26 PM
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Finally getting around to replacing the crankcase breather on my wife's 2012 Mercedes C250 1.8l turbo M271.860 engine. Wasn't too bad removing the airbox, air intake manifold and the throttle body. I'm going to post a few pictures here to help others understand what's under the air intake manifold on the M271.860 engine. All this to replace the crankcase breather tubing which should help with oil leaks and stop gasoline vapour getting into the oil.


Before airbox removal

Air intake manifold



Throttle body


After air intake manifold removal









Oil in the air intake tube

Bottom of air intake manifold




Crankcase breather





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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Koop
Finally getting around to replacing the crankcase breather on my wife's 2012 Mercedes C250 1.8l turbo M271.860 engine. Wasn't too bad removing the airbox, air intake manifold and the throttle body. I'm going to post a few pictures here to help others understand what's under the air intake manifold on the M271.860 engine. All this to replace the crankcase breather tubing which should help with oil leaks and stop gasoline vapour getting into the oil.
Thanks for the pictures. I have been replacing the oil filter housing on the 2013 C250. I disassembled everything several weeks ago, had to order replacements for some broken parts, ended up distracted on other projects, and will need to go back and finish the job. I took pictures of all the electrical connectors I disconnected but these pictures will definitely help.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Koop
Finally getting around to replacing the crankcase breather on my wife's 2012 Mercedes C250 1.8l turbo M271.860 engine. Wasn't too bad removing the airbox, air intake manifold and the throttle body. I'm going to post a few pictures here to help others understand what's under the air intake manifold on the M271.860 engine. All this to replace the crankcase breather tubing which should help with oil leaks and stop gasoline vapour getting into the oil.


Before airbox removal

Air intake manifold



Throttle body


After air intake manifold removal









Oil in the air intake tube

Bottom of air intake manifold




Crankcase breather




I replaced the PCV and check valve hoses as you did and I’m still having blow by through the oil cap. Did this solve your problem?
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 06:37 AM
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I'll be doing the job over the next couple of days and I'll let you know.

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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Koop
I'll be doing the job over the next couple of days and I'll let you know.

Richard
Hey Richard,

Sounds good I appreciate it!

Thank you,
Anthony
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Old Dec 30, 2023 | 04:05 PM
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Finished the job. Car runs great but still have the blow-by. Not sure if there's anything wrong or that's just the way it is meant to be on these cars.

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Old Dec 30, 2023 | 04:12 PM
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Finished the job. Car runs great but still have the blow-by. Not sure if there's anything wrong or that's just the way it is meant to be on these cars.

Richard
hi Richard,

check out my other thread going - https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...e-oil-cap.html

I have the same issue as you now. Replaced the low pressure PCV (under the intake manifold) there is a high pressure PCV built into the valve cover. My other thread has all the info on it.

I am waiting on a new valve cover to swap it and see if that fixes the crankcase pressure at idle. Will report back.

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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 01:50 AM
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When you removed the intake manifold did you need to remove the engine oil filter holder?
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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by chinatownabc
When you removed the intake manifold did you need to remove the engine oil filter holder?
You do not need to remove the oil filter housing to remove the intake manifold.


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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 11:14 AM
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Every now and then a dumb question.........................

What would be the average odometer reading when the C250 coupe breather issue surfaces?

(I have a C250 coupe - which my new wife loves)

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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ezshift5
Every now and then a dumb question.........................

What would be the average odometer reading when the C250 coupe breather issue surfaces?

(I have a C250 coupe - which my new wife loves)

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I’ve seen cars with the m271evo engine have this issue at 57k , 80k, and mine happened around 95k miles.

it is likely due to lack of maintenance and or lots of idling. I would just keep an eye on it and monitor the blow by. Once your oil fill cap no longer is sucked it and is hopping and jumping around, I would say a new valve cover is needed.

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Old Jan 25, 2024 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by antboii
I’ve seen cars with the m271evo engine have this issue at 57k , 80k, and mine happened around 95k miles.

it is likely due to lack of maintenance and or lots of idling. I would just keep an eye on it and monitor the blow by. Once your oil fill cap no longer is sucked it and is hopping and jumping around, I would say a new valve cover is needed.

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Like Ant pointed out, it depends on maintenance and type of use. I have 220K on my 2013 C250 with the original valve cover, but the majority of this is highway miles where I suspect the carbon or gunk does not have a chance to accumulate.
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Like Ant pointed out, it depends on maintenance and type of use. I have 220K on my 2013 C250 with the original valve cover, but the majority of this is highway miles where I suspect the carbon or gunk does not have a chance to accumulate.
Thanks for the feedback guys. - I think 220,000 kilometer is close to 140,000 miles - and my wife's C250 coupe its about 44,000 miles. Looks good.

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Originally Posted by ezshift5
Thanks for the feedback guys. - I think 220,000 kilometer is close to 140,000 miles - and my wife's C250 coupe its about 44,000 miles. Looks good.

Thanks again,

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My C250 is 220K miles.
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Originally Posted by Richard Koop
Finished the job. Car runs great but still have the blow-by. Not sure if there's anything wrong or that's just the way it is meant to be on these cars.

Richard
did that also help the gas into oil problems along with oil/gas residue in intake tube?
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Did you replace everything in the last picture? Or just the check valve?
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My M272 engine has over 150,000 miles and all the hoses and tubes look to be in surprisingly great condition. I spray Mothers VLR on a microfiber towel and wipe them all down looking for any cracks. For the price of all those lines and connectors it can add up quick if they need to be replaced.
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Originally Posted by jeiholzer
Did you replace everything in the last picture? Or just the check valve?
hey @jeiholzer , when I did the job I replaced the whole low pressure PCV hose tree that is pictured above.

I purchased it from autohausAZ - https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/150513...saAqqwEALw_wcB

i also upgraded the intercooler and put new charge pipes on. I’m glad I changed the charge pipes when I did at about 100k miles they were starting to show their age.

I also had oil in the charge pipes when I removed them. This is common on forced induction cars. The only way to fully Eliminate oil getting into the intake system is installing an oil catch can.
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