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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 03:54 PM
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2013 C350 4Matic Start-up rattle?

Hi all, basically what the title says. Today, I decided to record my car's cold start (after leaving it overnight in a garage at approximately 20 Celsius) and it appears that my car has the infamous engine start rattle (see the link below). Would you guys be able to help me verify that? The video was recorded by placing my phone in the area above the radiator / fan. I have noticed a slight rattle during some warm starts (after leaving the car at the store for ~30 minutes but never noticed a cold start rattle inside from inside the cabin until I recorded this video. Also, should I get this issue addressed asap or can it wait until approximately a year from now? The goal is not just to replace the chain tensioners but also to fix a possible leak from the valve covers as well as the timing sensors. Since I bought the car over a year ago, I have also been experiencing vibrations at idle, with RPMs going up and down by around 100 RPM. I feel like this issue has been beaten to death with all the threads that have been created in the past, but I still thought it would be a good idea to ask around in this forum before going to a mechanic.

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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 05:51 PM
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Have you checked the pulleys, tensioner and the belt, generally that area?
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 05:51 PM
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Are you talking about the fast clicking sound? Sounds just like mine. Sounds like the HPFP to me. See if the noise is louder near the back passenger side of the engine. I'm not saying there's no problem, just that it sounds like mine.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 07:22 PM
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Are you talking about the fast clicking sound? Sounds just like mine. Sounds like the HPFP to me. See if the noise is louder near the back passenger side of the engine. I'm not saying there's no problem, just that it sounds like mine.
I'm concerned about the sound that can be heard for the first 2-3 seconds after the engine turns on... unless that is the same sound that you were thinking. Also since you mention the HPFP, the ticking sound that can be heard while the engine is running is usually more pronounced on the right side of the engine than the left.
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Old Sep 7, 2024 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by meazz1
Have you checked the pulleys, tensioner and the belt, generally that area?
I'm not sure how to go about doing that to be honest...
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Originally Posted by TorontoC350
I'm concerned about the sound that can be heard for the first 2-3 seconds after the engine turns on... unless that is the same sound that you were thinking. Also since you mention the HPFP, the ticking sound that can be heard while the engine is running is usually more pronounced on the right side of the engine than the left.
I hear what you mean now. Has it always done that or is the sound new? It sounds normal to me.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
I hear what you mean now. Has it always done that or is the sound new? It sounds normal to me.
Don't think I've ever heard this sound after a cold start before but that's probably due to me always being inside the car during engine start up...
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Have you unplugged the oil pump solenoid? If not, worth at least unplugging for a short test. If the noise comes down even faster, likely the chain tensioners are "tired".

Your decision to plug it back regardless of the test results.

Definitely, the engine has a subtle noise.

By any chance, have you scanned the vehicle? Any codes?

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Originally Posted by juanmor40
Have you unplugged the oil pump solenoid? If not, worth at least unplugging for a short test. If the noise comes down even faster, likely the chain tensioners are "tired".

Your decision to plug it back regardless of the test results.

Definitely, the engine has a subtle noise.

By any chance, have you scanned the vehicle? Any codes?
I haven't had a chance to unplug the oil pump solenoid. Will have to do some research first as I'm not sure where that part would be located around the engine. Also, yes, I have scanned the car multiple times, using the bluedriver scanner, but I'm not seeing any codes worth worrying about. Should I scan the car while it's running driving to see if anything pops up? Another thing worth noting is that even though this is probably normal, the ticking sound that is a characteristic of these engines is extremely loud at times. I can even hear it inside the cabin if the AC/radio are turned off.
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