W205 Discount challenge!
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2016 C300
Is there an acquisition fee (charged by MBFS for originating the loan) or a Dealer Prep fee? Any trade in? Your State sales tax rate is 9.8%?
With that cap cost reduction and those fees I get a monthly payment of $354 and due at signing of $3975.27
Not sure what "upfront taxes" are.
Here's the spreadsheet. Add in any Dealer Prep Fee (usually around $800) and Acquisition Fee (usually around $1000) if they charge those down at the bottom under Due At Signing. Those might account for the discrepancy in monthly payment. Find out what "upfront taxes" represents. Might be padding. Right now there's $925 extra being charged and unaccounted for, not including the $274 "upfront taxes" number. (See the payment discrepancy at the bottom).
With that cap cost reduction and those fees I get a monthly payment of $354 and due at signing of $3975.27
Not sure what "upfront taxes" are.
Here's the spreadsheet. Add in any Dealer Prep Fee (usually around $800) and Acquisition Fee (usually around $1000) if they charge those down at the bottom under Due At Signing. Those might account for the discrepancy in monthly payment. Find out what "upfront taxes" represents. Might be padding. Right now there's $925 extra being charged and unaccounted for, not including the $274 "upfront taxes" number. (See the payment discrepancy at the bottom).
Last edited by Mike5215; May 4, 2016 at 09:28 PM.
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Hey Mike, Acq Fee is $725, WA sales tax (where I live) is 9.8%, and no trade in
My main concerns with my lease deal is just making sure I'm getting what appears to be a good deal and the numbers for the most part add up, not sure if the discount off sales price is par with what I should expect and making sure the residual/MF/and monthly all appear to be fair
Thanks again for your help!!
My main concerns with my lease deal is just making sure I'm getting what appears to be a good deal and the numbers for the most part add up, not sure if the discount off sales price is par with what I should expect and making sure the residual/MF/and monthly all appear to be fair
Thanks again for your help!!
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Got it. With the $725 dealer fee added in as a cap cost and the upfront tax on the cap cost reduction your numbers line up. (There's a couple of dollars variance on the monthly payment, $81 over the life of the financing but that would be close enough for me). MF and Residual looks right. Discount is very aggressive. Sounds like a deal!
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^Yes, MSDs (multiple security deposits) reduce the money factor by allowing less of the car to be collateralized in the loan. They function like a CD where the lender holds your funds over the life of the loan then pays you back the face value as a lump sum when the loan matures. It depends on how much cash you want tied up. Not all states allow MSDs.
What SEB is suggesting I think is rather than putting that $4k on the loan as a cap cost reduction, do $4k in MSDs, finance everything into the note and the net savings would be $2k although the payment ticks up a bit.
What SEB is suggesting I think is rather than putting that $4k on the loan as a cap cost reduction, do $4k in MSDs, finance everything into the note and the net savings would be $2k although the payment ticks up a bit.
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2016 C450
Is it possible for the monthly payments to be increased by the gap insurance?
Is there a standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
What is the lease cash for May if any?
What are the MF and residual value of the C450 for the month of May?
Can MSD be used in NY?
Is there a standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
What is the lease cash for May if any?
What are the MF and residual value of the C450 for the month of May?
Can MSD be used in NY?
Last edited by iluvdaBenz; May 5, 2016 at 02:46 AM.
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2016 C300
Originally Posted by iluvdaBenz
Is it possible for the monthly payments to be increased by the gap insurance?
Is there a standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
What is the lease cash for May if any?
What are the MF and residual value of the C450 for the month of May?
Can MSD be used in NY?
Is there a standard value for the acquisition and disposition fees?
What is the lease cash for May if any?
What are the MF and residual value of the C450 for the month of May?
Can MSD be used in NY?
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Picked up today: $480 a month (CT tax included) with $2100 down (lic, reg, first mo) on a 48 month / 10K year lease. MSRP was $60,960 including 2 year pre-paid maintenance.
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Thanks for the information. I have read that the OEM tires wear out very fast. Is it a good idea to purchase regular non-run flat tires and store the OEM tires until the end of the lease?
Are MB dealerships usually willing to install the aftermarket tires? How much does the installation usually cost? I would like to factor this cost into the total lease cost.
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Not my experience at all, and I was coming from a $106,000 S550. My dealer had a fleet of 204s and I avoided them at all cost. Uncomfortable, cheap, hard plastic interiors. Probably the least Benz-like Benz I've ever been in. I had a 205 loaner for two weeks and traded the S for one.
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My friend had a 2013 C300 4Matic...he felt my 2015 W205 was superior in just about every way (especially the interior)...so much so he traded it in for 2016 C300 4Matic.
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Not my experience at all, and I was coming from a $106,000 S550. My dealer had a fleet of 204s and I avoided them at all cost. Uncomfortable, cheap, hard plastic interiors. Probably the least Benz-like Benz I've ever been in. I had a 205 loaner for two weeks and traded the S for one.
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2016 c300
Just got a 2016 c300 with sport package, blind spot assist, P1, and linden wood @ $43,625.
Leased for $4,000 down (first month, drive off, and all the BS included), $300.00/mo, 10k miles, 36 months
Is this a good deal?? Dealer said they were near $8500 below MSRP
Leased for $4,000 down (first month, drive off, and all the BS included), $300.00/mo, 10k miles, 36 months
Is this a good deal?? Dealer said they were near $8500 below MSRP
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Download the spreadsheet, plug your numbers in and see if it matches the dealers figures;
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Hello, I'm seeking some advice. I'm interested in leasing a C300 in FL just received an offer and I'm wondering if I can do better on the discounted price what are some of your thoughts? Thanks in advance!!
MSRP- $48,825
Discounted prices- $45,707
MSRP- $48,825
Discounted prices- $45,707
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Originally Posted by SoFreshSoClean
Hello, I'm seeking some advice. I'm interested in leasing a C300 in FL just received an offer and I'm wondering if I can do better on the discounted price what are some of your thoughts? Thanks in advance!!
MSRP- $48,825
Discounted prices- $45,707
MSRP- $48,825
Discounted prices- $45,707
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I just got 16% off MSRP on a 2016 C450...read me gloating about it here...
https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...0-deals-2.html
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