Airmatic - must have or no?
#176
#177
Thank you abstractls. do you feel thats low enough, or would you go further?
#178
I'm familiar to air suspension, my current 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland has it. It's got some nice features like being able to lower or raise the vehicle manually, even dropping 0.6" at highway speeds to help increase gas mileage, and makes getting out of the vehicle easier too when lowered. But for me, air suspension has some negatives as well...mostly the handling is not as good as the regular coil spring set up (I've owned both versions of the 2014 Grand Cherokee with & without air suspension). It's wallows a bit in the turns, and bounces more over bumps. Also you do hear the compressor at times when the vehicle is raising or leveling.
Another thing to take into consideration is the complexity & longevity of the air suspension system, and since I might be lowing my vehicle in the future, I would think it's easier to deal with just replacing coil springs as opposed to dealing with an air suspension drop.
So between what I've listed above, together with the many mixed articles I've read about the W205 Airmatic suspension saying it wasn't worth the money, or it didn't handle any better in the curves, and that they preferred the steel suspension instead...I passed on the Airmatic suspension, and put the money towards different options instead.
Another thing to take into consideration is the complexity & longevity of the air suspension system, and since I might be lowing my vehicle in the future, I would think it's easier to deal with just replacing coil springs as opposed to dealing with an air suspension drop.
So between what I've listed above, together with the many mixed articles I've read about the W205 Airmatic suspension saying it wasn't worth the money, or it didn't handle any better in the curves, and that they preferred the steel suspension instead...I passed on the Airmatic suspension, and put the money towards different options instead.
#179
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BMW e89 Z4 sDrive 35i & MB S205 C200 AMG Premium Plus
I love the Air suspension. I wouldn't have bought the car without it as I have another car for fun and I wanted the s205 for refinement.
#180
Thank you abstractls. do you feel thats low enough, or would you go further?
#181
I'm familiar to air suspension, my current 2014 Grand Cherokee Overland has it. It's got some nice features like being able to lower or raise the vehicle manually, even dropping 0.6" at highway speeds to help increase gas mileage, and makes getting out of the vehicle easier too when lowered. But for me, air suspension has some negatives as well...mostly the handling is not as good as the regular coil spring set up (I've owned both versions of the 2014 Grand Cherokee with & without air suspension). It's wallows a bit in the turns, and bounces more over bumps. Also you do hear the compressor at times when the vehicle is raising or leveling.
Another thing to take into consideration is the complexity & longevity of the air suspension system, and since I might be lowing my vehicle in the future, I would think it's easier to deal with just replacing coil springs as opposed to dealing with an air suspension drop.
So between what I've listed above, together with the many mixed articles I've read about the W205 Airmatic suspension saying it wasn't worth the money, or it didn't handle any better in the curves, and that they preferred the steel suspension instead...I passed on the Airmatic suspension, and put the money towards different options instead.
Another thing to take into consideration is the complexity & longevity of the air suspension system, and since I might be lowing my vehicle in the future, I would think it's easier to deal with just replacing coil springs as opposed to dealing with an air suspension drop.
So between what I've listed above, together with the many mixed articles I've read about the W205 Airmatic suspension saying it wasn't worth the money, or it didn't handle any better in the curves, and that they preferred the steel suspension instead...I passed on the Airmatic suspension, and put the money towards different options instead.
#182
I didn't get airmatic. After having mine, and riding in one with it finally, I'd definitely reccomend it. Worth the wait. Worth the in comparison pocket change expense, short and long term.
Airmatic in this car a must have IMO. Gotta help with run flats too.
Airmatic in this car a must have IMO. Gotta help with run flats too.
#184
Airmatic was a requirement for me. I'm leaving behind a sporty car, and moving to comfort.
Given the state of roads, the seemingly never-ending new speed bumps cropping up everywhere, and the fact I can increase the height of the car .. Well those were reasons enough for me.
Given the state of roads, the seemingly never-ending new speed bumps cropping up everywhere, and the fact I can increase the height of the car .. Well those were reasons enough for me.
#185
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Joined: Mar 2015
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From: Norfolk, UK
C300 Hybrid (AMG Line), MG TF 160, BMW 120d
I've just had a non-airmatic loan car (C220) whilst mine was in for some work and I've got to say it made me even happier that I ticked that particular option on mine! The ride wasn't bad however whereas mine is supremely smooth on the motorways the loan one wasn't and when on the small twisty roads I then missed the hard ride mine has in sports+.
#186
I chose the 18s over the 19s for comfort but still debating.
id like to know your opinion the ride of your 400 with the 18s and airmatic!
Thx!
#187
The air suspensinion (airmatic) is a very nice system. When you put the agility select in comfort the car is very smooth and in sport or sport plus the car lowers itself and gets a sportier feel due to firmer suspension. Have a look at my video (mercedes c class amg package, price 77k euro's )---->
#188
I had a chance yesterday to drive an AirMatic C300 as well as a steel suspension C300 on 19" wheels and the C450 with electronic variable dampening. The AirMatic C rides a lot like my current S Class. Although the C's suspension is busier overall due to the shorter wheel base, it has the same effortless smoothness. AirMatic cars glide, that's the only way I can describe it. Once you've had one it's hard to give it up. I just did a C300 Sport build because nobody had any Airmatic cars in inventory. Highly recommend it.
#189
The AIRMATIC ride in my C400 is the main reason I decided not to trade for a C450. I drove a C450 last week. It's very similar to my C400. It's a little louder (which many like) with a rougher, more firm ride, even in comfort mode. The C400 is a smoother, quieter ride. For me, what the C400 gives up in performance (4.7 to 60mph vs 4.5 for the C450- Car and Driver test), it gains in a quieter smoother ride.
#190
As many others have noted, I think the answer is obvious. Airmatic suspension provides a visibly refined ride quality, its adjustable (lowers itself), its priceless in my view for both sport-ride as well comfort-ride. Without Airmatic in a C300, I would never had ventured on buying a C.
#191
I never in a million years would have been a C Class buyer. My last 3 cars were an S500, S430 and S550, the other end of the sedan spectrum. I had a base C300 as a loaner and it rode and drove great. Honestly, a C on the ugly, horribly proportioned 17" wheels is a close second to an AirMatic on 18" set to Comfort. No self leveling but still very smooth. I ordered the AirMatic so I could go to the 19" Multispoke wheels and not firm the car up too much.
#192
I never in a million years would have been a C Class buyer. My last 3 cars were an S500, S430 and S550, the other end of the sedan spectrum. I had a base C300 as a loaner and it rode and drove great. Honestly, a C on the ugly, horribly proportioned 17" wheels is a close second to an AirMatic on 18" set to Comfort. No self leveling but still very smooth. I ordered the AirMatic so I could go to the 19" Multispoke wheels and not firm the car up too much.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.
#193
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Joined: Nov 2014
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From: Columbus, GA
'18 GLC 300 4M/Air Suspension
I think answers my earlier question above ie my takeaway is with the 17 inch wheels the steel suspension rides nearly as well as the airmatic without the complication and associated failure risk.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.
#194
The air suspensinion (airmatic) is a very nice system. When you put the agility select in comfort the car is very smooth and in sport or sport plus the car lowers itself and gets a sportier feel due to firmer suspension. Have a look at my video (mercedes c class amg package, price 77k euro's )---->
Mercedes Benz C Class 2016 Drive and Review 2015 car wash - YouTube
Mercedes Benz C Class 2016 Drive and Review 2015 car wash - YouTube
#195
Originally Posted by MBNUT1
I think answers my earlier question above ie my takeaway is with the 17 inch wheels the steel suspension rides nearly as well as the airmatic without the complication and associated failure risk.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.
I did an ambient cabin noise recording on the C loaner and on the S on the same stretch of interstate. The C definitely lets more wind noise in than the $107,000 S Class does, but it wasn't a dealbreaker, at least as far as that particular C300 went. That's why I got the Burmester
But I agree if the aesthetics of the 17" don't bother you, the ride is very comfortable on them.
#197
Last edited by bartola; 12-29-2015 at 12:38 AM.
#198
I'm currently building a C300 Coupe, the problem is my dealer or hardly anyone in the nearby area has a C class with Airmatic that I can test...
The Coupe AMG setup works pretty well, but it would have been nice to test the Airmatic, it's not that expensive after all.
Has anyone had a chance to compare the Coupe or saloon AMG chassi vs Airmatic?
The Coupe AMG setup works pretty well, but it would have been nice to test the Airmatic, it's not that expensive after all.
Has anyone had a chance to compare the Coupe or saloon AMG chassi vs Airmatic?
#199
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I think answers my earlier question above ie my takeaway is with the 17 inch wheels the steel suspension rides nearly as well as the airmatic without the complication and associated failure risk.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.
I would advise you to pay particular attention to the wind noise. If you peruse the forum you will find many complaints which basically say it sounds like the window is cracked open without satisfactory resolution. On my test drive I didn't notice it but that is what others have reported.