Question about MB-Tex
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Question about MB-Tex
I'm having an odd issue with the MB-Tex. Twice now, there have been large areas of a glossy film that have appeared on the MB-Tex material. It looks almost like an oil coming out of the material. I've seen it on the seating areas and the headrests. The appearance is one of mottled areas of glossy and flat material on the seats. It wipes right off with a damp cloth and leaves nothing behind.
The first time I noticed it was right after a dealer visit, so I thought it was something they had sprayed on the interior. Now, two months later, it just came back.
Has anyone heard of this before? If it's not a known issue, I'll go back to my original assumption that the dealer sprayed something in the car. Why it's recurred after all this time is somewhat of a mystery though.
The first time I noticed it was right after a dealer visit, so I thought it was something they had sprayed on the interior. Now, two months later, it just came back.
Has anyone heard of this before? If it's not a known issue, I'll go back to my original assumption that the dealer sprayed something in the car. Why it's recurred after all this time is somewhat of a mystery though.
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Interesting you should post this today, I noticed it on the seats of my C300, the same oily spots last night. The first time I have seen this since getting the car a month and half ago
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I'll call my dealer Monday and ask if they do, in fact, spray the interior with some leather treatment. If that's the case, why would the sides of the headrests also show this oily seepage? I am really puzzled by this.
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If it's not a spray thats been used then it's likely plasticiser leaching out of the vinyl. How much sun exposure are these cars getting?
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Sun is not an issue at all, especially during our winter months. Maybe cold temperatures? Something is definitely leaching out of the vinyl.
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Lack of sun exposure might be why it is staying on the seats. Usually plasticiser (volatiles) leach out distributes itself all over the interior of the car & leaves an easily removable goo on all the windows much like smoking in a car does.
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I had this exact issue, and noticed it while I was at the dealer; it's a known issue where the factory is supposed to wipe down the seats with a special solvent before they leave the factory. Apparently, that wasn't always done, so they instructed the dealerships to do so before delivery. Apparently, that also wasn't always done.
It hasn't come back for me, but it's only been a couple of days.
It hasn't come back for me, but it's only been a couple of days.
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Interesting. I've had to clean the interior glass three times already due to film on them. This causes fogging, especially in our cold weather.
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Yes it's normal Stan. My C350 was a summer delivery and it came and went fairly quickly due to the heat...a few weeks and a few wipe downs later never to return. Ah the joys of plastic!!
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gnus's comment, "I had this exact issue, and noticed it while I was at the dealer; it's a known issue where the factory is supposed to wipe down the seats with a special solvent before they leave the factory. Apparently, that wasn't always done, so they instructed the dealerships to do so before delivery. Apparently, that also wasn't always done.," may be the root of this.
Monday, I'll give MB-USA a call and then follow up with my dealer. I'm guessing it will resolve itself anyway after a few cleanings, so I may just take some pictures to document it, then wait and see if it comes back again.
I really do like my C300, it's a truly exceptional AWD sedan, but it is feeling more and more like I bought a kit car that I have to finish myself. This is my first Mercedes, and certainly compared to my experiences with BMW, Audi, and Porsche, I am somewhat disappointed with both the factory QC and the dealer support I've gotten so far.
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I've never seen it on MBTex in SA but MBTex is not very common as most Mercs here are leather. We import the MBTex we use from Germany (Taxi Leder).
W204 gave some trouble with MBTex delaminating & cracking. Maybe they've decided to give it an increased dose of volatiles or maybe it is a local supplier.
W204 gave some trouble with MBTex delaminating & cracking. Maybe they've decided to give it an increased dose of volatiles or maybe it is a local supplier.
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I've had my car for a month now and in the last week I've also noticed a shiny spot appearing on one of the seats. I knows its not caused by take-out food or anything as I don't eat in the car.
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It's getting much, much worse now. This is what it looked like this morning.
These pictures were just emailed to my salesman with a mention of just how disgusted I am with this. I'm sure I'll hear back tomorrow.
Now, I am getting really upset. I did spend an hour scrubbing the front seat with warm water and a mild detergent. Most of it came off, but you could still see the outline of the stains.
These pictures were just emailed to my salesman with a mention of just how disgusted I am with this. I'm sure I'll hear back tomorrow.
Now, I am getting really upset. I did spend an hour scrubbing the front seat with warm water and a mild detergent. Most of it came off, but you could still see the outline of the stains.
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They are two hours away and I will insist they pick the car up and leave another C300 as a loaner. This is inexcusable in any car, let alone a Mercedes.
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Oily, shiny surface or white residues on MB-Tex seat covers
Cause
- In cold weather the surface of the MB-Tex can appear oily or shiny (IMG_2055.jpg, IMG_2058.jpg)
- When the material warms up again, the substance evaporates and this can result in white edges on the surface (IMG_2054.jpg)
1) For customer vehicles with issue only!
Replace the seat cover and head rests, except for the front passenger seat bottom.
The passenger seat bottom cannot be changed at this time because the factory calibration is performed on the cushion/cover/bladder as a complete set.
We are currently in developing a spare part kit, once established, this Tips LI will be updated.
2) For vehicles in dealer inventory
Please clean the seats with warm soapy water solution (do not use aggressive cleaning agents) before releasing to customer.
A final resolution is currently under development, this LI will be updated accordingly.
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Oily, shiny surface or white residues on MB-Tex seat covers
Cause
- In cold weather the surface of the MB-Tex can appear oily or shiny (IMG_2055.jpg, IMG_2058.jpg)
- When the material warms up again, the substance evaporates and this can result in white edges on the surface (IMG_2054.jpg)
1) For customer vehicles with issue only!
Replace the seat cover and head rests, except for the front passenger seat bottom.
The passenger seat bottom cannot be changed at this time because the factory calibration is performed on the cushion/cover/bladder as a complete set.
We are currently in developing a spare part kit, once established, this Tips LI will be updated.
2) For vehicles in dealer inventory
Please clean the seats with warm soapy water solution (do not use aggressive cleaning agents) before releasing to customer.
A final resolution is currently under development, this LI will be updated accordingly.
I will forward this to my dealer. I assume they'll have my car for several days to take care of this
Thank you very much!
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Wow, that's really strange. Based on the post above you get new seat covers. Make sure to show that to the dealer. But I'd be very picky about new seat covers. Some mechanic will have to put them on, and it is not easy to do, so they often don't look right - kind of baggy. Inspect very closely before accepting them.
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12-19-2014no problem. and yes pay close attention to the final quality of the new installations.
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Stan, I take my "that's normal" comment back after seeing your pics. Good lord, I've never seen anything like that....anywhere. I had what I think Glyn described quite nicely but it went away as he stated it would.
I can understand your frustration - outrage?- and I'd be equally pissy at the thought of having the seat covers replaced on a new car.
I'm trying to bite my tongue and let me know if I'm out of line but...wtf is wrong with this new C-Class???? Is this another Alabama QC or supplier issue or is it global (I can't interpret the origin of the tech bulletin)? I see that the MB bulletin suggests that inventoried cars get a wash with warm, soapy water before delivery. I'm confused because I assume you've done this multiple times already?? If so, and considering your pics are worth a thousand words, will other new owners experience the same problem and the same "don't worry, we'll replace your seat covers" solution?
All I can say is "Wow". And I sympathize of course. Looking forward to hearing about your resolution.
I can understand your frustration - outrage?- and I'd be equally pissy at the thought of having the seat covers replaced on a new car.
I'm trying to bite my tongue and let me know if I'm out of line but...wtf is wrong with this new C-Class???? Is this another Alabama QC or supplier issue or is it global (I can't interpret the origin of the tech bulletin)? I see that the MB bulletin suggests that inventoried cars get a wash with warm, soapy water before delivery. I'm confused because I assume you've done this multiple times already?? If so, and considering your pics are worth a thousand words, will other new owners experience the same problem and the same "don't worry, we'll replace your seat covers" solution?
All I can say is "Wow". And I sympathize of course. Looking forward to hearing about your resolution.