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Old 09-12-2015, 11:06 AM
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IMO the C450 grill has so much more style than the plain looking one that the C63 has.






In the end it's all a matter of taste.



I like the two louvers grill more; it looks more aggressive and elegant vs the delicate Diamond.
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I've just got notice from my local MB dealer that my 2016 C450 will be ready for delivery new week. Woohoo! I have to say goodbye to my 2012 ML63!
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Originally Posted by 2012ML63AMG
I've just got notice from my local MB dealer that my 2016 C450 will be ready for delivery new week. Woohoo! I have to say goodbye to my 2012 ML63!
Great news man! I await your impressions on the exhaust sound
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Originally Posted by 2012ML63AMG
I've just got notice from my local MB dealer that my 2016 C450 will be ready for delivery new week. Woohoo! I have to say goodbye to my 2012 ML63!
Congrats! I'm betting someone won't be getting too much sleep the next few nights!
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Congrats! I'm betting someone won't be getting too much sleep the next few nights!
Absolutely! Can't wait! According to my Sales Rep; I'll be the first one in the dealership to receive it.

Also looking at a set of HRE's for it! Very excited!
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Almost exactly the configuration I'm thinking of with two exceptions. As I understand it, the Air Balance Package takes up most of the glove box and I find that undesirable. Also, you do not have a Parking Package. This includes a rearview camera, ultrasonic sensors and hopefully surround view cameras. All very important IMO. The surround view cameras appear to be back ordered so the package may not include them.

The discount that you received brings the price below what I believe the invoice price to be. This is phenomenal at this point in the model year. Would you share the dealer name with me?

Gladly, pm me.
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Hello friends,

I am new to this forum and to the Mercedes community. I just placed an order for the C450. The dealer said the car is expected to be delivered 3rd week of October. I'm curious about your optional packages and the negotiated discounts. Below are my selections:

C450W4 $50,800
149 Polar White
240 Black Leather
P02 P02 Premium Package: Burmester® Surround $1,520
P21 Air Balance Package $350
068 Wheel Locking bolts $140
098 ** PRICE NOT ON FILE **
293 Rear Side Airbags
317 317 Interior Package: Leather Upholstery $2,150
319 319 Lighting Package: Dynamic LED Headli $800
320 320 Multimedia Package: High-Resolution $2,690
389 389 HANDS-FREE ACCESS Package: HANDS-FRE $250
413 Panorama Sunroof $1,480
463 Head-Up Display $990
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521 521 Night Package: High gloss black fron $200
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661 18" AMG® 5-Spoke Wheel - Black
736 Black Ash Open Pore Wood Trim
851 Factory Code
997 997 Driver Assistance Package: DISTRONIC $2,250
SUBTOTAL $63,620
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $925
TOTAL $64,545

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Welcome brother! Your build looks awesome. And great job with the discount, very impressive
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Originally Posted by 2012ML63AMG
I've just got notice from my local MB dealer that my 2016 C450 will be ready for delivery new week. Woohoo! I have to say goodbye to my 2012 ML63!
That rocks!

What HRE's are you considering?

If I can't get the C63's 662 – 19” Cross-Spoke Forged Wheels – Black for a descent price:



I had these HREs (FF01) on my short list:

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My sales rep at MB of Fort Washington just called me yesterday and explained why the car was not ready for delivery last week, it was due to MBUSA not releasing the 2016 C450 but instead the 2016 C300s were released last week.

Hopefully this week the 450 will be released, as I will also be the first to receive the vehicle in the region as well
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Originally Posted by tmoneyC450amg
My sales rep at MB of Fort Washington just called me yesterday and explained why the car was not ready for delivery last week, it was due to MBUSA not releasing the 2016 C450 but instead the 2016 C300s were released last week.

Hopefully this week the 450 will be released, as I will also be the first to receive the vehicle in the region as well
TM, My sales rep indicated that my C450 would be rolling early next week. So I am guessing Monday 9/14 or Tuesday 9/15 I would be very surprised if our 2 vehicles were not on the same truck since our dealers are only ~25 miles apart. The dealers should receive the same day off the pick-up since it is a little over 100 miles from Baltimore to Philly.

I will gladly take the 2nd delivery in the region. I am hoping Friday 9/18 will be my delivery day and just take the day off of work and give it a test drive.

Are you purchasing the prepaid maintenance? I always use the dealer for service so to me it makes sense to purchase the maintenance plan. Last time I purchased the tire and rim insurance and essentially broke even. I will have to see how expensive it is this insurance is for the c450. I know the multi spoke rims in black cost ~$1,000 each.
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Are you purchasing the prepaid maintenance? I always use the dealer for service so to me it makes sense to purchase the maintenance plan. Last time I purchased the tire and rim insurance and essentially broke even. I will have to see how expensive it is this insurance is for the c450. I know the multi spoke rims in black cost ~$1,000 each.
Not sure if you guys are considering the extended warranty, but this thread had some good info: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...elw-deals.html

The tire rim insurance is intriguing (specially in our pot-hole ridden state )
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Not sure if you guys are considering the extended warranty, but this thread had some good info: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...elw-deals.html

The tire rim insurance is intriguing (specially in our pot-hole ridden state )
With runflat tires, tire and rim insurance is a must [IMHO]. Prepaid maintenance is a good investment as well as it heads off any service increases. And if someone plans to keep their car beyond the new car warranty, extending the warranty makes sense too.
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Originally Posted by rbrylaw
With runflat tires, tire and rim insurance is a must [IMHO]. Prepaid maintenance is a good investment as well as it heads off any service increases. And if someone plans to keep their car beyond the new car warranty, extending the warranty makes sense too.
I disagree, especially on the extended warranty. These add ons are how dealers make money, with markup of over 50% (sometimes as much as 100%!!) The majority of people who buys extended warranty would have been way better financially if they hadn't. I work in the car industry, and there's a reason dealers push extended warranties so hard, and the reason is not because they like you, the customer. Your best bet is always just to negotiate your best deal on the car, because any "added value" the dealers offer, are usually not worth it. Etching, nitrogen and paint and leather protector? Forget about it
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Not sure if you guys are considering the extended warranty, but this thread had some good info: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...elw-deals.html

The tire rim insurance is intriguing (specially in our pot-hole ridden state )
I did not realize that M-B discounted the extended warranty period within the first 30 days of the vehicle purchase date. I knew that you could buy it up to the standard warranty expiration. The prices are more reasonable then I expected. Certainly something to think about. I will have to see if it makes sense since I only have been averaging 6K miles annually.
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Originally Posted by autopal
I disagree, especially on the extended warranty. These add ons are how dealers make money, with markup of over 50% (sometimes as much as 100%!!) The majority of people who buys extended warranty would have been way better financially if they hadn't. I work in the car industry, and there's a reason dealers push extended warranties so hard, and the reason is not because they like you, the customer. Your best bet is always just to negotiate your best deal on the car, because any "added value" the dealers offer, are usually not worth it. Etching, nitrogen and paint and leather protector? Forget about it
Under many situations, you are likely right. But cars are complex expensive machines. A good friend of mine wound up trading his 50,000 mile BMW in when it required a $6,000 repair, which would have been covered under warranty had he purchased the extended warranty.

It's the same with insurance. You may never need to make a claim, but if you do, it's a godsend if you have coverage.
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Under many situations, you are likely right. But cars are complex expensive machines. A good friend of mine wound up trading his 50,000 mile BMW in when it required a $6,000 repair, which would have been covered under warranty had he purchased the extended warranty.

It's the same with insurance. You may never need to make a claim, but if you do, it's a godsend if you have coverage.
Each off us have to do what we think is right for our situation. If we are talking about used car, then warranty may make more sense. My point is, if your new car turns out to be a lemon (unlikely, but possible) those problems would come to the fore long before the 4 yrs, 50K manufacturer's warranty. What you need to ask yourself is
(1) What is the chance your car will be fine for 4 yrs, 50K, and then require expensive repairs for the remainder of your ownership?
(2) How much it will cost you, interest included, to cover against that small possibility?
(3) How certain are you that you will be keeping the car for years beyond the first 4 years?
(4) If you have to use the extended warranty, will the cost of repairs be more than the cost to buy the warranty? Enough for it to make sense?
Buy the warranty if you feel it make sense for you, I just know that extended warranty on new cars are not in the consumers best interest, and multiple research supports that. It's the same thing with insurance, life insurance is a no brainer, and we all should have life insurance, but buying life insurance to cover a car loan will cost you more than twice what it would, if you buy personal insurance
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Originally Posted by autopal
Each off us have to do what we think is right for our situation. If we are talking about used car, then warranty may make more sense. My point is, if your new car turns out to be a lemon (unlikely, but possible) those problems would come to the fore long before the 4 yrs, 50K manufacturer's warranty. What you need to ask yourself is
(1) What is the chance your car will be fine for 4 yrs, 50K, and then require expensive repairs for the remainder of your ownership?
(2) How much it will cost you, interest included, to cover against that small possibility?
(3) How certain are you that you will be keeping the car for years beyond the first 4 years?
(4) If you have to use the extended warranty, will the cost of repairs be more than the cost to buy the warranty? Enough for it to make sense?
Buy the warranty if you feel it make sense for you, I just know that extended warranty on new cars are not in the consumers best interest, and multiple research supports that. It's the same thing with insurance, life insurance is a no brainer, and we all should have life insurance, but buying life insurance to cover a car loan will cost you more than twice what it would, if you buy personal insurance
Excellent advice. Thank you. For me, I have been giving this much thought. I'm now in my 60s. I don't have the money to buy cars as often as I once did. When my new C300 arrives, I'm paying cash for it and hoping to keep it at least 7 years (longer if it remains reliable). In my situation, extending the new car warranty could make sense. If I only keep the car as long as the new warranty, extending it would make no sense. There's no blanket answer that fits all situations.

Thanks again for the great advice.
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I disagree, especially on the extended warranty. These add ons are how dealers make money, with markup of over 50% (sometimes as much as 100%!!) The majority of people who buys extended warranty would have been way better financially if they hadn't. I work in the car industry, and there's a reason dealers push extended warranties so hard, and the reason is not because they like you, the customer. Your best bet is always just to negotiate your best deal on the car, because any "added value" the dealers offer, are usually not worth it. Etching, nitrogen and paint and leather protector? Forget about it
Check out that thread that I posted...

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Not sure if you guys are considering the extended warranty, but this thread had some good info: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...elw-deals.html

The tire rim insurance is intriguing (specially in our pot-hole ridden state )
These guys are talking about a dealer in Santa Monica that sells the extended warranty for $100 over dealer cost (and that is regardless of where you bought the car).
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Check out that thread that I posted...



These guys are talking about a dealer in Santa Monica that sells the extended warranty for $100 over dealer cost (and that is regardless of where you bought the car).
I am familiar with this dealership. My corporate office is in Santa Monica and I passed the MB dealership on the way to the hotel. SWEET!! Viper U DAH MAN!!
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I am familiar with this dealership. My corporate office is in Santa Monica and I passed the MB dealership on the way to the hotel. SWEET!! Viper U DAH MAN!!
LOL... I'll be really curious what kind of quotes we get from our dealers. I agree with autopal that this is normally a place for the dealers to "win all their money back"

My plan is to hopefully keep this for a while (past the normal warranty). I work from home, so I also tend to put fewer miles on a vehicle (plus I am not planning a trade-in, so this will be an extra vehicle).
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That rocks!

What HRE's are you considering?

If I can't get the C63's 662 – 19” Cross-Spoke Forged Wheels – Black for a descent price:



I had these HREs (FF01) on my short list:

Are these rims not part of the standard offering for the 450?
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Are these rims not part of the standard offering for the 450?
Nope...just these:

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Nope...just these:

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Thanks, and damn that sucks. I like how they call them "black" when really they are barely black at all.
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Thanks, and damn that sucks. I like how they call them "black" when really they are barely black at all.
Exactly...

I like the wheels that I ordered (the 605s), but I also would like a wider wheel. After seeing the C63's 662 in person, I really like the matte black with the cross spoke...those wheels are stunning in person.


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