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Old 09-16-2015, 09:33 AM
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Intelligent LED, without Active hibeam assist???

Ok... so I have searched and searched and only found descriptions on one or the other but I need to know......


I have a 2015 C400 with the LED intelligent lighting system... is it possible that the system is missing the "Active hi-beam assist"??? When in the 'Auto' position, and I push the hi-beam lever forward the hi-beams come on and stay on. My 2012 was not like this. Very frustration and potentially disappointing. Please help!
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Originally Posted by helas
Ok... so I have searched and searched and only found descriptions on one or the other but I need to know......


I have a 2015 C400 with the LED intelligent lighting system... is it possible that the system is missing the "Active hi-beam assist"??? When in the 'Auto' position, and I push the hi-beam lever forward the hi-beams come on and stay on. My 2012 was not like this. Very frustration and potentially disappointing. Please help!
If you live in the US, it's not only possible, it is missing that feature. It's not approved for US cars. And that sucks, to be honest. But it's not Mercedes fault our government won't approve a safety feature like this.
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My high beams will only come on when conditions allow (no oncoming cars or no cars ahead of me) they also "dip" when coming to a stop. Do your lights "follow" the road when turning?
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Ok I'm a little PI$$#D right now. I just popped into the dealer where I bought the car and I had been dealing with the sales manager for the whole deal (nice guy). I asked him about the Intelligent system and the adaptive high-beams assist and he said "oh no no, that's option 602...that's an additional $250 option" Like why wouldn't you have told me that? It's $250!!! I was under the impression that the LED Intelligent system had that built in. I asked him to ask his teckies and hackers to see if it can be switched on within the onboard computer seeing how I have the cameras and hardware already and he's going to call "product" and see if it is possible. I'm not by any means holding my breath but might have to go aftermarket hacker need be.


Its my fault. I'm usually right on the ball and know EXACTLY what comes with what and this time I guess I dropped the ball.
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$250 option??? Mine was an $800 option upgrade to the intelligent headlamps, Mine turn with the road, auto hi/low when flipping the switch forward. I did find out that if you turn the head lamps on with the switch and dont leave it in auto the high beams will stay on. Could this be an issue?
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Intelligent light system and adaptive beam assist are separated here in france ie they each are an option but you cannot have adaptive high beam assist unless you have the ils also. Adaptive beam was relativly inexpensive.
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In poland we have:
-normal lights(halogen) + led daylight 0$
-static led lights ( LED + halogen hi beam) 1200$
-adaptive lights -120$
-intelligent led (ILS) 2030$ + adaptive lights 120$
-automatic ils lights 150$

FULL ILS automatic lights 2030$+120$+150$= 2300$

IN USA is very very cheap. IN Poland its 3x expensive
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IN USA is very very cheap. IN Poland its 3x expensive
Ironic in that the light assemblies themselves are made in the Czech Republic, at least on my 300 and was only an $800US option. Go figure
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Ironic in that the light assemblies themselves are made in the Czech Republic, at least on my 300 and was only an $800US option. Go figure
I still maintain we don't get the full system that Europe gets. And that may also be why it's a bit less expensive.
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yeah. The ILS (640) was $1,200 and the AHA (608) was only $250. I was made to believe that the AHA came in the ILS package. I just happen to have a friend way up the corporate ladder at M-B who I am currently talking with. He is finding out if they can go in and activate the AHA for me. He seems to think that because I have the ILS all the necessary programs and hardware is currently there. Suppose to find out some time today. Will keep you guys advised.
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I still maintain we don't get the full system that Europe gets. And that may also be why it's a bit less expensive.
I agree. Check out my post about this here: https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...ml#post6537216
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Originally Posted by helas
yeah. The ILS (640) was $1,200 and the AHA (608) was only $250. I was made to believe that the AHA came in the ILS package. I just happen to have a friend way up the corporate ladder at M-B who I am currently talking with. He is finding out if they can go in and activate the AHA for me. He seems to think that because I have the ILS all the necessary programs and hardware is currently there. Suppose to find out some time today. Will keep you guys advised.
Please do. Since it isn't approved for US cars, it will be interesting to see if it can be activated.
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Please do. Since it isn't approved for US cars, it will be interesting to see if it can be activated.
I'm going to try and find a shop to activate the system on my car when I get it.
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I'm going to try and find a shop to activate the system on my car when I get it.
And keep us all informed with your results incase I come up short.
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Okay I am lost. What is the difference between intelligent light system and adaptive high beam assist ?
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Okay I am lost. What is the difference between intelligent light system and adaptive high beam assist ?
Ok..... ILS is dual LED projected head lights which operates from dual cameras mounted at the top of the windscreen which turn in and out of turns based on the degree of which you turn your wheel

AHA is when the above mentioned head lights activate the high beams and keep them on when the conditions are dark enough. The. An oncoming car approaches, the LEDs alter their position to "curve around" the oncoming car not to blind then while still maintaining optimal lighting for the driver. This Austen also curves around corners prior to entering them and illuminating shoulders, signs and cars in front.

How did i do?..... Lol
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Originally Posted by helas
Ok..... ILS is dual LED projected head lights which operates from dual cameras mounted at the top of the windscreen which turn in and out of turns based on the degree of which you turn your wheel

AHA is when the above mentioned head lights activate the high beams and keep them on when the conditions are dark enough. The. An oncoming car approaches, the LEDs alter their position to "curve around" the oncoming car not to blind then while still maintaining optimal lighting for the driver. This Austen also curves around corners prior to entering them and illuminating shoulders, signs and cars in front.

How did i do?..... Lol
Check this out:
http://blog.dupontregistry.com/merce...al-in-the-usa/

http://jalopnik.com/a-50-year-old-re...hea-1594900077
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So basically, the only thing the Intelligent Light System do for US car is that lense swivel when driving around a curve or turning right? Only European C class have the beam pattern change ?
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Originally Posted by skullboy
So basically, the only thing the Intelligent Light System do for US car is that lense swivel when driving around a curve or turning right? Only European C class have the beam pattern change ?
Pretty much.......they do look cooler, if that matters at all. But what you wrote is pretty much what we get. Thank your government for this stupid regulation barring us from getting technology which makes night time driving safer.
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Pretty much.......they do look cooler, if that matters at all. But what you wrote is pretty much what we get. Thank your government for this stupid regulation barring us from getting technology which makes night time driving safer.

I guess that goes the same with BMW's and/or Audi's use of laser instead of LED for headlight
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I guess that goes the same with BMW's and/or Audi's use of laser instead of LED for headlight
Yes, yes it does. Sad to say.......The NHTSA needs a wake up call. That's for sure.
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I have the lighting option/ILS ($800 upgrade) and I live in the U.S. is the swivel of the light output noticeable when making a turn? I know it's suppose to do that, but I don't really notice it that much...I think I have tried it out by turning the wheels at a complete stop and notice a "faint" swivel of the light, but never thought it would be extremely noticeable.
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Originally Posted by nbkvig2
I have the lighting option/ILS ($800 upgrade) and I live in the U.S. is the swivel of the light output noticeable when making a turn? I know it's suppose to do that, but I don't really notice it that much...I think I have tried it out by turning the wheels at a complete stop and notice a "faint" swivel of the light, but never thought it would be extremely noticeable.
I have this in the 2012 e350 and my 2008 RX400h. It is a great technology. This is different from curb lights as the swivel is intended to be useful when driving at speed. When you enter a curve, the lights will swivel so they are pointing into the curve. So, instead of your lights pointing straight ahead (which is right off the road and onto the grass), your lights light up the road in the direction of travel. It really makes a big difference. So much so, that I cannot buy another car without one.

Same with the auto highbeam assist. I rarely used the high beams since it was such a bother to use them without blinding other drivers. Now that they come on automatically, I feel like I am illuminating the entire neighborhood with my E350's lights. Of course, if you drive in the city or there is always oncoming traffic, then this is less useful.

The more advanced ILS is a significant leap ahead from what the above two system can do. It will likely be some time before the systems get here, as it is my understanding that the problem is that the government does not know how to make rules and tests for the new systems, so they cannot write an adequate regulation. Hmmm. Its not the red tape that is the problem, it is the manufacturing of the tape!

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