AMG-Sport is dead. C450 will now be AMG C43
#1151
The only concern I have with my order is the exhaust. I have not chosen the performance exhaust as it has to be ordered as part of the performance package (in Australia), which includes the performance seats that I don't want. If I could order the performance exhaust separately I definitely would!
Has anyone experienced both and can explain the difference in sound?
Has anyone found video of both as a comparison?
Has anyone experienced both and can explain the difference in sound?
Has anyone found video of both as a comparison?
#1152
The stock c450 sounds fantastic.
The performance exhaust is going to give you more fart on the upshift and more decibels everywhere on the power band.
It's really hard to compare them as the c43 is not in the hands of many yet, and using videos to compare them in different settings has to be taken with a grain of salt.
I would have probably ordered the seats if I could order again, but I would not be ordering the exhaust. Just to give you a take on it, obviously people don't order the seats for comfort reasons.
The c43 without the performance exhaust might also sound a good bit different than the current outgoing c450 because of the gear ratio changes. I wouldn't be surprised if exhaust noise level in c43 (Performance Exhaust) > c450 > c43 (without). Obviously impossible to say right now without all 3 next to one another.
The performance exhaust is going to give you more fart on the upshift and more decibels everywhere on the power band.
It's really hard to compare them as the c43 is not in the hands of many yet, and using videos to compare them in different settings has to be taken with a grain of salt.
I would have probably ordered the seats if I could order again, but I would not be ordering the exhaust. Just to give you a take on it, obviously people don't order the seats for comfort reasons.
The c43 without the performance exhaust might also sound a good bit different than the current outgoing c450 because of the gear ratio changes. I wouldn't be surprised if exhaust noise level in c43 (Performance Exhaust) > c450 > c43 (without). Obviously impossible to say right now without all 3 next to one another.
Last edited by alexasa; 06-22-2016 at 07:49 AM.
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stixpicks (06-22-2016)
#1153
I would expect the 43 without Performance Exhaust to sound the exact same as the 450, as they both have the Sport Exhaust part number. The difference would be more frequent gear shift in the 9 Speed, thus more burps and farts.
Performance Exhaust is a no brainer for me (#1 option IMO), but in your circumstances I'd probably just skip it bc I think those seats suck.
Performance Exhaust is a no brainer for me (#1 option IMO), but in your circumstances I'd probably just skip it bc I think those seats suck.
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stixpicks (06-22-2016)
#1154
I would expect the 43 without Performance Exhaust to sound the exact same as the 450, as they both have the Sport Exhaust part number. The difference would be more frequent gear shift in the 9 Speed, thus more burps and farts.
Performance Exhaust is a no brainer for me (#1 option IMO), but in your circumstances I'd probably just skip it bc I think those seats suck.
Performance Exhaust is a no brainer for me (#1 option IMO), but in your circumstances I'd probably just skip it bc I think those seats suck.
Last edited by alexasa; 06-22-2016 at 08:23 AM.
#1156
It's the same part with the same engine = the same sound being made, exactly as I said.
A sound occurring more frequently doesn't make it a different sound... if you can't comprehend that, don't even bother to respond bc I am terrible at dealing with morons.
A sound occurring more frequently doesn't make it a different sound... if you can't comprehend that, don't even bother to respond bc I am terrible at dealing with morons.
#1157
But hey, you do you - go on acting like a child.
#1161
The only concern I have with my order is the exhaust. I have not chosen the performance exhaust as it has to be ordered as part of the performance package (in Australia), which includes the performance seats that I don't want. If I could order the performance exhaust separately I definitely would!
Has anyone experienced both and can explain the difference in sound?
Has anyone found video of both as a comparison?
Has anyone experienced both and can explain the difference in sound?
Has anyone found video of both as a comparison?
Before your order is built, make sure that you confirm that the performance exhaust cannot be ordered as a stand-alone option. Some of the stand alone options are hidden on the build config websites (like silver seatbelts) so it would be good for you to confirm with your dealer just in case.
Last edited by Mr. J; 06-22-2016 at 02:14 PM.
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stixpicks (06-22-2016)
#1162
Agreed... use the config tool as a build example, but your sales rep will have better control over your build than the config tool. I would have him show you exactly what options can be individually configured. I would also check on paint options regardless if they show up on the config tool (or even order guide for that matter).
#1163
I can't configure a c43 sedan on the US site because it's only showing the old discontinued hunk of junk c450... When will they update the site to configure a awesome c43 sedan??!!
#1165
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#1169
Lease C43?
So I am aware of the lease for C43 is probably going to suck.
But if I get it, I will get it by leasing.
Anyone else decides to lease?
BTW, I will do a trade assist on my 2015 C300. It's fully loaded. If they do not offer a good deal, I think I will seek help from an attorney or just keep driving the C300 as it's got every option I want and now it's driving ok.
The reason I pushed them for a trade assist or buyback was that the car's got too many issues - not major but small things add up - in the shop for over 50 days, and right now it's in again for the engine wrist pin issue.
I really like the C43, so I guess the best scenario is that they offer me a good trade assist so I can finally enjoy a nice car...
But if I get it, I will get it by leasing.
Anyone else decides to lease?
BTW, I will do a trade assist on my 2015 C300. It's fully loaded. If they do not offer a good deal, I think I will seek help from an attorney or just keep driving the C300 as it's got every option I want and now it's driving ok.
The reason I pushed them for a trade assist or buyback was that the car's got too many issues - not major but small things add up - in the shop for over 50 days, and right now it's in again for the engine wrist pin issue.
I really like the C43, so I guess the best scenario is that they offer me a good trade assist so I can finally enjoy a nice car...
#1170
So I am aware of the lease for C43 is probably going to suck.
But if I get it, I will get it by leasing.
Anyone else decides to lease?
BTW, I will do a trade assist on my 2015 C300. It's fully loaded. If they do not offer a good deal, I think I will seek help from an attorney or just keep driving the C300 as it's got every option I want and now it's driving ok.
The reason I pushed them for a trade assist or buyback was that the car's got too many issues - not major but small things add up - in the shop for over 50 days, and right now it's in again for the engine wrist pin issue.
I really like the C43, so I guess the best scenario is that they offer me a good trade assist so I can finally enjoy a nice car...
But if I get it, I will get it by leasing.
Anyone else decides to lease?
BTW, I will do a trade assist on my 2015 C300. It's fully loaded. If they do not offer a good deal, I think I will seek help from an attorney or just keep driving the C300 as it's got every option I want and now it's driving ok.
The reason I pushed them for a trade assist or buyback was that the car's got too many issues - not major but small things add up - in the shop for over 50 days, and right now it's in again for the engine wrist pin issue.
I really like the C43, so I guess the best scenario is that they offer me a good trade assist so I can finally enjoy a nice car...
Ultimately, I have a very robust financial model (it's what I do for a living, so it seemed natural for me to build one for this) that will predict the all-in cost of ownership over 3, 4, or 5 years. I will plug all of my inputs in when delivery time is closed and the financial inputs are known (residual, MF, APR if financing, etc) and let the math do the deciding for me.
#1171
Do you guys think the c43 sedan will have better built quality than the c450? My c450 rattled like a metal toolbox full of dishes... The dealer tried to fix them multiple times but they only solved some and some came right back a week later..i want a nice tight car.. Does anyone think I'll probably have the same issues with fit and finish of the interior rattles?
#1172
Do you guys think the c43 sedan will have better built quality than the c450? My c450 rattled like a metal toolbox full of dishes... The dealer tried to fix them multiple times but they only solved some and some came right back a week later..i want a nice tight car.. Does anyone think I'll probably have the same issues with fit and finish of the interior rattles?
#1173
Why is the build quality so different between the car built here and the car built in Germany? Aren't they the same parts and plans.. Why is it so much difference in quality?