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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 01:58 AM
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The only concern I have with my order is the exhaust. I have not chosen the performance exhaust as it has to be ordered as part of the performance package (in Australia), which includes the performance seats that I don't want. If I could order the performance exhaust separately I definitely would!

Has anyone experienced both and can explain the difference in sound?

Has anyone found video of both as a comparison?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 07:27 AM
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The stock c450 sounds fantastic.

The performance exhaust is going to give you more fart on the upshift and more decibels everywhere on the power band.

It's really hard to compare them as the c43 is not in the hands of many yet, and using videos to compare them in different settings has to be taken with a grain of salt.

I would have probably ordered the seats if I could order again, but I would not be ordering the exhaust. Just to give you a take on it, obviously people don't order the seats for comfort reasons.

The c43 without the performance exhaust might also sound a good bit different than the current outgoing c450 because of the gear ratio changes. I wouldn't be surprised if exhaust noise level in c43 (Performance Exhaust) > c450 > c43 (without). Obviously impossible to say right now without all 3 next to one another.

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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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I would expect the 43 without Performance Exhaust to sound the exact same as the 450, as they both have the Sport Exhaust part number. The difference would be more frequent gear shift in the 9 Speed, thus more burps and farts.

Performance Exhaust is a no brainer for me (#1 option IMO), but in your circumstances I'd probably just skip it bc I think those seats suck.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by inhartwetrust
I would expect the 43 without Performance Exhaust to sound the exact same as the 450, as they both have the Sport Exhaust part number. The difference would be more frequent gear shift in the 9 Speed, thus more burps and farts.

Performance Exhaust is a no brainer for me (#1 option IMO), but in your circumstances I'd probably just skip it bc I think those seats suck.
Man, that logic.

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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 08:18 AM
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Do you mean that two things that aren't the same are different?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 09:13 AM
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Man, that logic.
It's the same part with the same engine = the same sound being made, exactly as I said.

A sound occurring more frequently doesn't make it a different sound... if you can't comprehend that, don't even bother to respond bc I am terrible at dealing with morons.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by inhartwetrust
It's the same part with the same engine = the same sound being made, exactly as I said.

A sound occurring more frequently doesn't make it a different sound... if you can't comprehend that, don't even bother to respond bc I am terrible at dealing with morons.
You really don't have to be so rude. Just poking some fun at a kinda of silly thing to say.

But hey, you do you - go on acting like a child.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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You really don't have to be so rude. Just poking some fun at a kinda of silly thing to say.

But hey, you do you - go on acting like a child.
Sounds like a plan
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 10:11 AM
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Get a c63 then if you don't like to eat chicken soup kids
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 12:52 PM
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Get a c63 then if you don't like to eat chicken soup kids
Did you mean to say get a c63s and eat chicken soup and only chicken soup for a year
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stixpicks
The only concern I have with my order is the exhaust. I have not chosen the performance exhaust as it has to be ordered as part of the performance package (in Australia), which includes the performance seats that I don't want. If I could order the performance exhaust separately I definitely would!

Has anyone experienced both and can explain the difference in sound?

Has anyone found video of both as a comparison?
I think you'll be happy with the stock exhaust. I'm not a fan of the performance seats either so I understand why you don't want to go with the package deal. If you find that the stock exhaust is too quiet you can always go with an aftermarket upgrade. You won't have a button that controls exhaust volume per se, but changing between driving modes will still allow some control over total exhaust volume.

Before your order is built, make sure that you confirm that the performance exhaust cannot be ordered as a stand-alone option. Some of the stand alone options are hidden on the build config websites (like silver seatbelts) so it would be good for you to confirm with your dealer just in case.

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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 03:51 PM
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Agreed... use the config tool as a build example, but your sales rep will have better control over your build than the config tool. I would have him show you exactly what options can be individually configured. I would also check on paint options regardless if they show up on the config tool (or even order guide for that matter).
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 04:40 PM
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I can't configure a c43 sedan on the US site because it's only showing the old discontinued hunk of junk c450... When will they update the site to configure a awesome c43 sedan??!!
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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Dude, you have issues...

...don't expect the configurator to be available for months.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vipershade
Dude, you have issues...

...don't expect the configurator to be available for months.
Why won't they update the site now? The c43 sedan is due out in 2 months and the c450 sedan is no longer able to be ordered, only available to buy off the lot..
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow
Why won't they update the site now? The c43 sedan is due out in 2 months and the c450 sedan is no longer able to be ordered, only available to buy off the lot..
MB is not one for doing what is widely accepted as the rational thing to do...
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 09:19 PM
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What he said
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 07:38 AM
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The C450 was officially released in September 2015... the configurator switched from C400 to C450 on Sept. 10th 2015.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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Lease C43?

So I am aware of the lease for C43 is probably going to suck.

But if I get it, I will get it by leasing.

Anyone else decides to lease?

BTW, I will do a trade assist on my 2015 C300. It's fully loaded. If they do not offer a good deal, I think I will seek help from an attorney or just keep driving the C300 as it's got every option I want and now it's driving ok.

The reason I pushed them for a trade assist or buyback was that the car's got too many issues - not major but small things add up - in the shop for over 50 days, and right now it's in again for the engine wrist pin issue.

I really like the C43, so I guess the best scenario is that they offer me a good trade assist so I can finally enjoy a nice car...
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by arnold0523
So I am aware of the lease for C43 is probably going to suck.

But if I get it, I will get it by leasing.

Anyone else decides to lease?

BTW, I will do a trade assist on my 2015 C300. It's fully loaded. If they do not offer a good deal, I think I will seek help from an attorney or just keep driving the C300 as it's got every option I want and now it's driving ok.

The reason I pushed them for a trade assist or buyback was that the car's got too many issues - not major but small things add up - in the shop for over 50 days, and right now it's in again for the engine wrist pin issue.

I really like the C43, so I guess the best scenario is that they offer me a good trade assist so I can finally enjoy a nice car...
I'm considering leasing due to fear of the depreciation of AMG's if I buy it, compounded by the potential costs of owning it outside of warranty (I need to look more into when the cut off is to to decide to purchase the Extended Warranty).

Ultimately, I have a very robust financial model (it's what I do for a living, so it seemed natural for me to build one for this) that will predict the all-in cost of ownership over 3, 4, or 5 years. I will plug all of my inputs in when delivery time is closed and the financial inputs are known (residual, MF, APR if financing, etc) and let the math do the deciding for me.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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Do you guys think the c43 sedan will have better built quality than the c450? My c450 rattled like a metal toolbox full of dishes... The dealer tried to fix them multiple times but they only solved some and some came right back a week later..i want a nice tight car.. Does anyone think I'll probably have the same issues with fit and finish of the interior rattles?
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow
Do you guys think the c43 sedan will have better built quality than the c450? My c450 rattled like a metal toolbox full of dishes... The dealer tried to fix them multiple times but they only solved some and some came right back a week later..i want a nice tight car.. Does anyone think I'll probably have the same issues with fit and finish of the interior rattles?
The Coupe should given that it will be built in Germany, the Sedan...tough to say. It's built the same place as the C450 was, so probably not.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 02:02 PM
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Why is the build quality so different between the car built here and the car built in Germany? Aren't they the same parts and plans.. Why is it so much difference in quality?
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He's just all high and mighty over his German C43. Don't pay any attention to this speculation as it is not founded with any merit.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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He's just all high and mighty over his German C43. Don't pay any attention to this speculation as it is not founded with any merit.
True fanboy I mean fan boi
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