AMG-Sport is dead. C450 will now be AMG C43
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So now that I told everyone my life story, could you please help me figure out how much to put aside so my wife doesn't kill me.. She would go nuts if she knew I was trading my car in for more options after 1 year.. She wants me to put a pool in the yard which I don't want..
You can hide stuff like this when you're just playing house with a girlfriend. Once you're married you need to learn how to man up and take your whippin' when you do dumb stuff.
You don't want to tell her because she will rightly tell you that your plan is dumb and that you should keep the car you got.
I still don't understand why you don't just have some fun modding your car.
Absolute best case scenario for your plan:
The dealer offers you a "special" discount on a new C43 because he loves the taste of fresh pigeon. Expect 8% off of MSRP.
The dealer offers you a trade in value of $45-47K according to KBB for a red C450 with: 19s, premium 1, Burmester, LEDs, no DAP and no Nav with 6,000mi.
Your delta is will be $17-19k depending on the final price of the new C43 and whether or not they lube you before bending you over.
I believe this will be best case scenario for you.
Worst case scenario:
5% discount
They lowball the trade because "it's the end of life for this model and we'll have to lose money to sell it, blah blah...." $42k trade offer
Your delta becomes $24-25k. Which is equivalent to the price of a well equipped new Subaru Forester or the down payment on a modest single family home.
Last edited by Mr. J; Jun 16, 2016 at 08:45 PM.
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I will tell her as the time gets closer.. I think as long as I tell her the difference between cars is like 10-15k she will be ok with that.. But I know it will be more.. That's why I'm trying to figure out how much to put aside... If I cut a check for 10k from our new joint account and then save up another 10-15k on the side from my personal stash.. She doesn't have to know about my personal stuff I keep with my brothers..
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I actually paid 60k for the car ... So at 25% that is 45k trade in... The c43 I'm getting almost fully loaded minus the performance seats so I figured around 70k...so is 25k a reasonable amount I'm calculating for the difference?
By the way I'm trading it in because I want Comand and HUD and driver assistance pack that I didn't get on my c450.. Plus the 9g transmission and exhaust..
By the way I'm trading it in because I want Comand and HUD and driver assistance pack that I didn't get on my c450.. Plus the 9g transmission and exhaust..
$20 grand is a lot to lose on a vehicle that looks the same. Have you considered throwing all that money into your current car? You can do quite a build out for that bread. You could probably make it a Brabus tune for that money. You could swap your scuffed seats with a set of AMG performance seats, add some body mods, wheels, suspension, and every go fast goodie currently available.
You are talking about losing, in one year, my lease payments 3 years. You could lease yourself a Fiat 124 Abarth if you want something that sounds good... and keep your new Mercedes.
PS. As far as the pool is concerned. I just had 2 quotes for a 10'*18' fiberglass in ground pool. The number was nearly $40k. My pool got back burnered thanks to my new Mercedes. Your wife is going to drive your car into the water.
That's got me thinking.
Have you considered leaving your car running after parking in a ****ty neighborhood? Just make sure you wait a while before calling it in.
Last edited by cenzo86; Jun 16, 2016 at 08:48 PM.
I own a chain of restaurants if you must know with my family.. Considering I drive the least expensive car and least expensive house out of my brothers.. My older brother drives a Bently and my younger brother has a s550..I just want a nice c class with awd... Since they don't make the c63 awd I chose the c450 off the lot... Then I wished I got a few more options after a few weeks 
example (since it probably isn't obvious to you): This type of *** backwards financial decision
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Seriously man, look into the aftermarket combiner HUD from continental. They are the same company that makes the OEM MB dash version. Add a tune, some tint, and upgrade the sound system, and add Garmin Nav.
You'll be out
You'll be out
Last edited by Mr. J; Jun 16, 2016 at 09:04 PM.
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I'm serious about the whole insurance job BTW. Are you near a flood zone? I lost my last VW after 3 months from Superstorm Sandy. I ended up getting the same model, color and all, more options, next MY, lower payments.
Cars just vanish sometimes. Poof. Fires, flash floods, hail. Call up your broker, and find out how good your coverage is.
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Originally Posted by Gungaslow
So now that I told everyone my life story, could you please help me figure out how much to put aside so my wife doesn't kill me.. She would go nuts if she knew I was trading my car in for more options after 1 year.. She wants me to put a pool in the yard which I don't want..
But no. It turned out she wanted an actual swimming pool built behind our house.
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I really can't see a 2016 c450 optioned car selling for 43k at this point. That's just too much depreciation. Even kbb (which has a hard time with new cars since there aren't enough actually data points) puts pp at 50k and dealer btw 44-49 k
Just having the c43 name and 9g isn't going to do that much canabalization.
Just having the c43 name and 9g isn't going to do that much canabalization.
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Yea!!!!! I ordered a 2017 c43 sedan.. Got the performance exhaust and 19" black 5 spoke rims.. Premium 4 package with pano, HUD, red paint, black/red leather...I can't wait to trade my c450 for the c43... It's gonna be so nice to have a brand new car again!! Can't wait to beat the snot out of the c450 before I trade it in either.. I wonder if I can get it to do 4 wheel burnouts?!
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i ordered one too.
if i'm lucky itll be here by the start of november. being on the west coast sigh.
I tend to be really careful with options, I guess I feel like options generally aren't the best value and its not like these cars don't come well equipped. just got a base C43 coupe, the ash open pore wood, and the 19" 5 twin spoke wheels in white.
if i'm lucky itll be here by the start of november. being on the west coast sigh.
I tend to be really careful with options, I guess I feel like options generally aren't the best value and its not like these cars don't come well equipped. just got a base C43 coupe, the ash open pore wood, and the 19" 5 twin spoke wheels in white.
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Yea!!!!! I ordered a 2017 c43 sedan.. Got the performance exhaust and 19" black 5 spoke rims.. Premium 4 package with pano, HUD, red paint, black/red leather...I can't wait to trade my c450 for the c43... It's gonna be so nice to have a brand new car again!! Can't wait to beat the snot out of the c450 before I trade it in either.. I wonder if I can get it to do 4 wheel burnouts?!
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Yea!!!!! I ordered a 2017 c43 sedan.. Got the performance exhaust and 19" black 5 spoke rims.. Premium 4 package with pano, HUD, red paint, black/red leather...I can't wait to trade my c450 for the c43... It's gonna be so nice to have a brand new car again!! Can't wait to beat the snot out of the c450 before I trade it in either.. I wonder if I can get it to do 4 wheel burnouts?!
Oh no, your lease is due back but you're over in your milage? He can fix that. Oh no, you kept putting more milage on and need to have the car disappeared? He can fix that too. Check local rates, but over here, these services both cost $350.
Take a quick read through the forums for the thread about insurance costs. Don't cry for Flo and the Gecko. Despite what they tell you, it isn't insurance fraud that drives up rates.
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You said you're in the NE area right?I am certain that if you ask around, someone knows a guy. If you can't find a guy, come down to NYC. I know a guy who knows a guy.
Oh no, your lease is due back but you're over in your milage? He can fix that. Oh no, you kept putting more milage on and need to have the car disappeared? He can fix that too. Check local rates, but over here, these services both cost $350.
Take a quick read through the forums for the thread about insurance costs. Don't cry for Flo and the Gecko. Despite what they tell you, it isn't insurance fraud that drives up rates.
Oh no, your lease is due back but you're over in your milage? He can fix that. Oh no, you kept putting more milage on and need to have the car disappeared? He can fix that too. Check local rates, but over here, these services both cost $350.
Take a quick read through the forums for the thread about insurance costs. Don't cry for Flo and the Gecko. Despite what they tell you, it isn't insurance fraud that drives up rates.
