tmoneyC450amg

I really hope the C43 doesnt come with an upgraded exhaust. From the videos of the C43 cabriolet floating around the web, the exhaust note sounds exactly the same as the current stock C43.

If they do upgrade the exhaust (or give the option for a more tuned exhaust), I will have no choice but to get the AWE Tuning touring exhaust. Currently I'm waiting for the right software tune before I jump on any aftermarket parts.

tivoboy

honestly, I'm not a huge fan of the exhaust as it is (in the current C450) if it got any louder or more pronounced, I would probably not have bought the car.

inhartwetrust

As I said above, there is no button in any picture or video I've seen....which makes me think it's not an option mirrored after the C63 Dynamic Performance Exhaust.

z28lt1

The UK site lists the GLA optional exhaust at $510 (pounds, not dollars, I just have no idea how to get the correct pound currency symbol) and the C43's at $1000. Would not be the first time a similar option costs something different on two different vehicles, or it could actually be different systems. We should know soon enough though. If the pricing holds, that translates to over $1400 US, which isn't cheap for an exhaust.

Cocheche

Lucky boys! I've seen that option in the UK and German websites, no options at all in the Spanish one (well, configurator is not working for 15 days now..).

inhartwetrust

The Dynamic Performance Exhaust is $1250 on the US website for the C63, but on the German site the C43 Performance option is priced higher than the C63 is, so it's quite possible it's going to be a $1400+ option.

Under the Features List of the build summary page of the German site, it shows the Sport as the "Standard Equipment" and the Performance as the "Special Equipment".

Coincidentally I got a voicemail from my dealer today saying I'd have the weekend at most to change my build before it's locked. Was half tempted to call him back and tell him to cancel it, but I figured I'll just let it ride and I'll back out once I know for sure what the C43 situation is. Hopefully this is all cleared up by the end of May.

Germancar1

You can't be serious.

M

tmoneyC450amg

EU car prices are always higher than US. A $60k C450 here is usually about $70k euro car

alexasa

iTrader: (1)

I don't give a damn about the transmission update.

But, I will be upset about an exhaust upgrade (that sounds louder than the current variant).

But, 3 year lease = not too big of a deal.

Graycat305

An aftermarket exhaust will blow the stock AMG Sport exhaust away regardless. Nonissue. (Unless it has electronic switching like the C63s option)

inhartwetrust

I'm on the edge of the 3 year lease not being too big of a deal, simply due my the timing of my lease start since I haven't had my C450 delivered yet. It would be an extra 3-4 months waiting for a C43 to be delivered with a potentially better exhaust, versus just having a "good enough" exhaust in a month from now and dumping it in a few years.

Also if I wait for a C43 it's definitely going to cost me more than the C450 deal I negotiated. Even if I got the same 10% plus my $2K Fleet discount, my MSRP on a C43 would be higher. Right off the bat I see $2800 for the Design Magno paint ($2K more than my Steel Grey Metallic), $1400 for the exhaust (versus $0), and probably another $2500+ because they bundled the ****ing ILS LEDs with the driver assist package (which I currently don't have and don't want, but I paid $800 for the ILS so it's a different of $1700 or more depending on the Premium 3 pricing).

inhartwetrust

All that does is allow you to turn the sound up or down by adjusting the valves open/closed, right?

Graycat305

According to the c63s configurator: "Computer-controlled vanes near the tailpipes of the AMG C63 exhaust system also let the driver escalate its sound at the push of a button, while the system's free-flow design delivers an audible celebration of power with every upshift, downshift and rev."

alexasa

iTrader: (1)

well yeah. It's a lease, I'm not trying to modify it much other than tinting the windows and throwing some spacers on it though.

Yeah, the longer the I wait, the less equity I have in my current vehicle - on top of the MSRP being higher with the c43.

I am sticking with the c450, but can't say I won't wish I had a c43 to some extent, not enough to do anything about it though.

inhartwetrust

Yeah, they are generally louder with a better growl/more popping (the AMG Performance Upgrades always are, across the board, as far as I know) and can be turned on and off. The turning on and off means absolutely nothing to my decision personally, so it will really come down to the sound 100%.

I guess in reality I could just throw an aftermarket exhaust on my 3 year lease and achieve equal or better sound to anything that will come from AMG. If it's a $1400 charge from Mercedes on the C43, it'd cost me an extra $585ish on a 3 year 15K lease capitalized. I don't know what the labor on an exhaust installation is (plus the cost of removing it when I need to turn it back in), but the exhaust itself will probably be around $1500 (AWE Touring)...depending on the resale value of the exhaust (again no idea how these things retain their value, never looked at an aftermarket anything for a car) it could net out to be a relatively immaterial difference in cost.

inhartwetrust

Depending on install and removal costs for exhaust systems, adding an AWE/other aftermarket exhaust might be an even better option than paying more for a C43 plus adding an additional $1400 to the MSRP to add the AMG Performance Exhaust.

Regarding the bold, that's where I stand as well. 3 years seems like a relatively short time to have a car, but it could seem a lot longer if I truly end up pissed off I didn't wait.

Mr. J

Concerns about the minor differences between the C450 and upcoming C43 seem rather trivial if the vehicle is leased.

Cosworth2000

The 9G transmission was created so that MB help increase their vehicles MPG however with the C43 and the AMG 4Matic it will also get the tune for SPORT and SPORT+ including the rear bias.

All other MB with the 9G will always get Front Wheel drive 4Matic preference such as what comes in the W205 C300's.

Also the new ML will get MB first 12 speed or 12G transmission.

RA7822

Motor Authority also reports 9G transmission and 31/69 rear torque split for the sedan

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1103550_2017-mercedes-amg-c43-to-replace-c450

Graycat305

The 450 already has a rear biased torque split: "The standard 4Matic all-wheel-drive system is tuned by AMG for sportier handling with a permanent front/rear torque split of 33/67 percent, and the stability control system is programmed to support cornering with brake-actuated Curve Dynamic Assist."

inhartwetrust

This is already know, it's on the European websites for configuration with the 9G in the Coupe and Sedan, and a guy from Spain here has already place an order. The book is pretty much closed on the Sedan having the 7G or 9G tranny now

Cosworth2000

Yes that is what I said. The standard 4Matic is made front wheel bias while the AMG 4Matic is rear bias.

As per Brabus, the current C450 AMG Transmission can manage just over 700n ft lbs of torque.

z28lt1

It's moving from a 33/67 to 31/69. Pretty sure I won't be able to tell a difference.

Cocheche

No news about delivery times yet. Although, my dealer is buying an Estate unit and he's promised me I'll be able to drive it for a weekend. His is coming early next month.