C43 S E D A N what transmission???
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I really hope the C43 doesnt come with an upgraded exhaust. From the videos of the C43 cabriolet floating around the web, the exhaust note sounds exactly the same as the current stock C43.
If they do upgrade the exhaust (or give the option for a more tuned exhaust), I will have no choice but to get the AWE Tuning touring exhaust. Currently I'm waiting for the right software tune before I jump on any aftermarket parts.
If they do upgrade the exhaust (or give the option for a more tuned exhaust), I will have no choice but to get the AWE Tuning touring exhaust. Currently I'm waiting for the right software tune before I jump on any aftermarket parts.
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honestly, I'm not a huge fan of the exhaust as it is (in the current C450) if it got any louder or more pronounced, I would probably not have bought the car.
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The UK site lists the GLA optional exhaust at $510 (pounds, not dollars, I just have no idea how to get the correct pound currency symbol) and the C43's at $1000. Would not be the first time a similar option costs something different on two different vehicles, or it could actually be different systems. We should know soon enough though. If the pricing holds, that translates to over $1400 US, which isn't cheap for an exhaust.
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The Dynamic Performance Exhaust is $1250 on the US website for the C63, but on the German site the C43 Performance option is priced higher than the C63 is, so it's quite possible it's going to be a $1400+ option.
Under the Features List of the build summary page of the German site, it shows the Sport as the "Standard Equipment" and the Performance as the "Special Equipment".
Coincidentally I got a voicemail from my dealer today saying I'd have the weekend at most to change my build before it's locked. Was half tempted to call him back and tell him to cancel it, but I figured I'll just let it ride and I'll back out once I know for sure what the C43 situation is. Hopefully this is all cleared up by the end of May.
Under the Features List of the build summary page of the German site, it shows the Sport as the "Standard Equipment" and the Performance as the "Special Equipment".
Coincidentally I got a voicemail from my dealer today saying I'd have the weekend at most to change my build before it's locked. Was half tempted to call him back and tell him to cancel it, but I figured I'll just let it ride and I'll back out once I know for sure what the C43 situation is. Hopefully this is all cleared up by the end of May.
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Originally Posted by inhartwetrust
The Dynamic Performance Exhaust is $1250 on the US website for the C63, but on the German site the C43 Performance option is priced higher than the C63 is, so it's quite possible it's going to be a $1400+ option.
Under the Features List of the build summary page of the German site, it shows the Sport as the "Standard Equipment" and the Performance as the "Special Equipment".
Coincidentally I got a voicemail from my dealer today saying I'd have the weekend at most to change my build before it's locked. Was half tempted to call him back and tell him to cancel it, but I figured I'll just let it ride and I'll back out once I know for sure what the C43 situation is. Hopefully this is all cleared up by the end of May.
Under the Features List of the build summary page of the German site, it shows the Sport as the "Standard Equipment" and the Performance as the "Special Equipment".
Coincidentally I got a voicemail from my dealer today saying I'd have the weekend at most to change my build before it's locked. Was half tempted to call him back and tell him to cancel it, but I figured I'll just let it ride and I'll back out once I know for sure what the C43 situation is. Hopefully this is all cleared up by the end of May.
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I don't give a damn about the transmission update.
But, I will be upset about an exhaust upgrade (that sounds louder than the current variant).
But, 3 year lease = not too big of a deal.
But, I will be upset about an exhaust upgrade (that sounds louder than the current variant).
But, 3 year lease = not too big of a deal.
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An aftermarket exhaust will blow the stock AMG Sport exhaust away regardless. Nonissue. (Unless it has electronic switching like the C63s option)
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Also if I wait for a C43 it's definitely going to cost me more than the C450 deal I negotiated. Even if I got the same 10% plus my $2K Fleet discount, my MSRP on a C43 would be higher. Right off the bat I see $2800 for the Design Magno paint ($2K more than my Steel Grey Metallic), $1400 for the exhaust (versus $0), and probably another $2500+ because they bundled the ****ing ILS LEDs with the driver assist package (which I currently don't have and don't want, but I paid $800 for the ILS so it's a different of $1700 or more depending on the Premium 3 pricing).
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According to the c63s configurator: "Computer-controlled vanes near the tailpipes of the AMG C63 exhaust system also let the driver escalate its sound at the push of a button, while the system's free-flow design delivers an audible celebration of power with every upshift, downshift and rev."
I'm on the edge of the 3 year lease not being too big of a deal, simply due my the timing of my lease start since I haven't had my C450 delivered yet. It would be an extra 3-4 months waiting for a C43 to be delivered with a potentially better exhaust, versus just having a "good enough" exhaust in a month from now and dumping it in a few years.
Also if I wait for a C43 it's definitely going to cost me more than the C450 deal I negotiated. Even if I got the same 10% plus my $2K Fleet discount, my MSRP on a C43 would be higher. Right off the bat I see $2800 for the Design Magno paint ($2K more than my Steel Grey Metallic), $1400 for the exhaust (versus $0), and probably another $2500+ because they bundled the ****ing ILS LEDs with the driver assist package (which I currently don't have and don't want, but I paid $800 for the ILS so it's a different of $1700 or more depending on the Premium 3 pricing).
Also if I wait for a C43 it's definitely going to cost me more than the C450 deal I negotiated. Even if I got the same 10% plus my $2K Fleet discount, my MSRP on a C43 would be higher. Right off the bat I see $2800 for the Design Magno paint ($2K more than my Steel Grey Metallic), $1400 for the exhaust (versus $0), and probably another $2500+ because they bundled the ****ing ILS LEDs with the driver assist package (which I currently don't have and don't want, but I paid $800 for the ILS so it's a different of $1700 or more depending on the Premium 3 pricing).
I am sticking with the c450, but can't say I won't wish I had a c43 to some extent, not enough to do anything about it though.
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According to the c63s configurator: "Computer-controlled vanes near the tailpipes of the AMG C63 exhaust system also let the driver escalate its sound at the push of a button, while the system's free-flow design delivers an audible celebration of power with every upshift, downshift and rev."
I guess in reality I could just throw an aftermarket exhaust on my 3 year lease and achieve equal or better sound to anything that will come from AMG. If it's a $1400 charge from Mercedes on the C43, it'd cost me an extra $585ish on a 3 year 15K lease capitalized. I don't know what the labor on an exhaust installation is (plus the cost of removing it when I need to turn it back in), but the exhaust itself will probably be around $1500 (AWE Touring)...depending on the resale value of the exhaust (again no idea how these things retain their value, never looked at an aftermarket anything for a car) it could net out to be a relatively immaterial difference in cost.
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well yeah. It's a lease, I'm not trying to modify it much other than tinting the windows and throwing some spacers on it though.
Yeah, the longer the I wait, the less equity I have in my current vehicle - on top of the MSRP being higher with the c43.
I am sticking with the c450, but can't say I won't wish I had a c43 to some extent, not enough to do anything about it though.
Yeah, the longer the I wait, the less equity I have in my current vehicle - on top of the MSRP being higher with the c43.
I am sticking with the c450, but can't say I won't wish I had a c43 to some extent, not enough to do anything about it though.
Regarding the bold, that's where I stand as well. 3 years seems like a relatively short time to have a car, but it could seem a lot longer if I truly end up pissed off I didn't wait.
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The 9G transmission was created so that MB help increase their vehicles MPG however with the C43 and the AMG 4Matic it will also get the tune for SPORT and SPORT+ including the rear bias.
All other MB with the 9G will always get Front Wheel drive 4Matic preference such as what comes in the W205 C300's.
Also the new ML will get MB first 12 speed or 12G transmission.
All other MB with the 9G will always get Front Wheel drive 4Matic preference such as what comes in the W205 C300's.
Also the new ML will get MB first 12 speed or 12G transmission.
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The 9G transmission was created so that MB help increase their vehicles MPG however with the C43 and the AMG 4Matic it will also get the tune for SPORT and SPORT+ including the Read bias.
All other MB with the 9G will always get Front Wheel drive 4Matic preference such as what comes in the W205 C300's.
Also the new ML will get MB first 12 speed or 12G transmission.
All other MB with the 9G will always get Front Wheel drive 4Matic preference such as what comes in the W205 C300's.
Also the new ML will get MB first 12 speed or 12G transmission.
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Motor Authority also reports 9G transmission and 31/69 rear torque split for the sedan
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...o-replace-c450
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...o-replace-c450
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The 450 already has a rear biased torque split: "The standard 4Matic all-wheel-drive system is tuned by AMG for sportier handling with a permanent front/rear torque split of 33/67 percent, and the stability control system is programmed to support cornering with brake-actuated Curve Dynamic Assist."
As per Brabus, the current C450 AMG Transmission can manage just over 700n ft lbs of torque.
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The 450 already has a rear biased torque split: "The standard 4Matic all-wheel-drive system is tuned by AMG for sportier handling with a permanent front/rear torque split of 33/67 percent, and the stability control system is programmed to support cornering with brake-actuated Curve Dynamic Assist."
