General consensus on current C300 W205 tunes?
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Been driving my new 2016 C300 4MATIC for a week now after turning in a 2014 E350 4MATIC – a night and day driving experience. Wife is driving a 2014 c300 4MATIC with the detuned M276 so I have a couple recent reference points. In absolute terms the 4cyl isn’t as smooth or sounds as refined as the V6s, but not enough for me to care - the 2016 is an amazing car. Also, we live in Denver where these V6 engines are robbed of their power more notably than the turbo charged engines. So the lighter W205 is very comparable power wise even before any mods.
All week I’ve been researching available ECU tunes for the M274. Kleemann does offers a K-Box with 40HP gain for $1495 (odd that the car has been out for two years, but Kleemann can’t find the time to update their website with the C300 spec or dyno stats). Then there’s the OE Tuning ECU software map with 65HP gain for $795 and the promise the same day reprogramming and return shipping. That’s just over $12 per 1HP as compared to over $37 per 1HP gained with Kleemann.
And then it happened; I received an email this afternoon from Rocco at OE Tuning telling me about their 20% Memorial Day weekend sale! Same 306HP tune for $636 (below $10 per 1HP) – I pulled the trigger. I’m traveling in a week so then will be the perfect time to ship the ECU. I'm happy to provide an update once the ECU is back in the car.
All week I’ve been researching available ECU tunes for the M274. Kleemann does offers a K-Box with 40HP gain for $1495 (odd that the car has been out for two years, but Kleemann can’t find the time to update their website with the C300 spec or dyno stats). Then there’s the OE Tuning ECU software map with 65HP gain for $795 and the promise the same day reprogramming and return shipping. That’s just over $12 per 1HP as compared to over $37 per 1HP gained with Kleemann.
And then it happened; I received an email this afternoon from Rocco at OE Tuning telling me about their 20% Memorial Day weekend sale! Same 306HP tune for $636 (below $10 per 1HP) – I pulled the trigger. I’m traveling in a week so then will be the perfect time to ship the ECU. I'm happy to provide an update once the ECU is back in the car.
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Check out the dyno chart on the OE Tuning page for C300 turbo - I guess there are no glaring flaws in my dyno procedure / results... 
http://www.oetuning.com/products/mer...enz-c300-turbo
http://www.oetuning.com/products/mer...enz-c300-turbo
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I'm planing to drive my car down to OE Tuning soon and do an dyno on their machine after doing the tune but the problem is I'm going to install the AWE Exhaust system and then take it for dyno.
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OE Tune after one day:
- VBox has not registered any improvements in 0-60. 6.4 sec before and after the tune
- Mid range torque has improved
- Fuel economy has improved. Have observed better hwy mpg (at least by 3-4, but will have to confirm it manually)
- Speed limiter has been removed whoo-hoo
Emailed OE Tuning regarding no change in the 0-60 time and waiting for their response.
- VBox has not registered any improvements in 0-60. 6.4 sec before and after the tune
- Mid range torque has improved
- Fuel economy has improved. Have observed better hwy mpg (at least by 3-4, but will have to confirm it manually)
- Speed limiter has been removed whoo-hoo
Emailed OE Tuning regarding no change in the 0-60 time and waiting for their response.
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So l did the tune from OETuning as well, and I couldn't be more happy. Ordered on Prime Day while they were doing 20% off. I've driven 300 miles since I did the tune. I didn't dyno the car before and I'm not going to dyno it now (that's been done earlier in this thread), but I will say that I'm impressed with the tune for a number of reasons.
#1) It certainly feels faster. Probably not 60HP faster as claimed, but my butt dyno is impressed with the improvements. The turbo lag seems less severe, throttle response is much better, and the car just feels much peppier; on the low-end, at least. Once I'm up over 50mph, the car feels about the same in S+ mode as it did before, but around town, it has got a lot more oomph.
#2) Torque feels more substantial and shift points seem more logical. IMO, the stock shift points were a bit rough and always felt too late.
#3) Speed limiter is removed though I haven't tested that out.
#4) Fuel economy is better (although, I've been driving with a lead foot lately since it's so much more fun to drive). Highway fuel economy before @80mph highway was 33mpg. Now it's registering as 42mpg. City fuel economy with same driving is about 3-4mpg better.
All-in-all, the tune is definitely worth doing. Don't know if the improvements are greater than those of the BMS, but I don't care. I love driving this car now and it's got that engagement level that was missing before. Must-do tune for any C300 owner, IMO.
#1) It certainly feels faster. Probably not 60HP faster as claimed, but my butt dyno is impressed with the improvements. The turbo lag seems less severe, throttle response is much better, and the car just feels much peppier; on the low-end, at least. Once I'm up over 50mph, the car feels about the same in S+ mode as it did before, but around town, it has got a lot more oomph.
#2) Torque feels more substantial and shift points seem more logical. IMO, the stock shift points were a bit rough and always felt too late.
#3) Speed limiter is removed though I haven't tested that out.
#4) Fuel economy is better (although, I've been driving with a lead foot lately since it's so much more fun to drive). Highway fuel economy before @80mph highway was 33mpg. Now it's registering as 42mpg. City fuel economy with same driving is about 3-4mpg better.
All-in-all, the tune is definitely worth doing. Don't know if the improvements are greater than those of the BMS, but I don't care. I love driving this car now and it's got that engagement level that was missing before. Must-do tune for any C300 owner, IMO.
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Sad that Terry/BMS said he will no longer be supporting the development of the tune. Could be lack of interest from the community, no money in it, not worth the R&D etc. It doesn't help that MB makes it super difficult to mod/tune their cars, BMW will continue to be BMS's bread and butter.
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OE Tune has been in business for quite some time so I don't doubt their ability and knowledge. There should be a logical explanation to no changes in performance in my case. The dyno runs by other forum members show that there should be power gain. Many things could have gone wrong. After all, **** happens and all that matters is how things are handled.
That being said, would I recommend OE Tune to anyone? No...not right now. I'd advise to wait and see how the story ends.
That being said, would I recommend OE Tune to anyone? No...not right now. I'd advise to wait and see how the story ends.
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OE Tune has been in business for quite some time so I don't doubt their ability and knowledge. There should be a logical explanation to no changes in performance in my case. The dyno runs by other forum members show that there should be power gain. Many things could have gone wrong. After all, **** happens and all that matters is how things are handled.
That being said, would I recommend OE Tune to anyone? No...not right now. I'd advise to wait and see how the story ends.
That being said, would I recommend OE Tune to anyone? No...not right now. I'd advise to wait and see how the story ends.
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This would be best handled off line and the end result posted.
Neither party ever seems to look good in back and forth forum posts and I'm sure that's not the case here...
Hope it's all resolved soon, and genuinely looking forward to hearing the performance result in the end...
All the best..
Neither party ever seems to look good in back and forth forum posts and I'm sure that's not the case here...
Hope it's all resolved soon, and genuinely looking forward to hearing the performance result in the end...
All the best..
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This would be best handled off line and the end result posted.
Neither party ever seems to look good in back and forth forum posts and I'm sure that's not the case here...
Hope it's all resolved soon, and genuinely looking forward to hearing the performance result in the end...
All the best..
Neither party ever seems to look good in back and forth forum posts and I'm sure that's not the case here...
Hope it's all resolved soon, and genuinely looking forward to hearing the performance result in the end...
All the best..
I would suggest to OE not treat this as an IT case, pull up from the bits and bytes, and treat this as a customer satisfaction issue. There are many ways (commercially) to make this right. The longer this goes on the more permanent the damage will be.
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Respectfully I feel handling this situation in "the public eye" has tremendous value. The whole concept of an ECU tune is almost entirely a one way trust exercise - based on the tuner's reputation. We ship an expensive piece of electronics, effectively disabling our vehicles, (potentially for weeks should something go wrong) install it in to our cars, and start the ignition trusting that the work was done correctly. How Sales, Technicians, and Customer Service handle this process is of paramount importance and a forward leading indicator of how much trust we should extend in the future. It is unreasonable to put the burden of proof on the customer if such wasn't explicitly stated at the onset.
I would suggest to OE not treat this as an IT case, pull up from the bits and bytes, and treat this as a customer satisfaction issue. There are many ways (commercially) to make this right. The longer this goes on the more permanent the damage will be.
I would suggest to OE not treat this as an IT case, pull up from the bits and bytes, and treat this as a customer satisfaction issue. There are many ways (commercially) to make this right. The longer this goes on the more permanent the damage will be.
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Respectfully I feel handling this situation in "the public eye" has tremendous value. The whole concept of an ECU tune is almost entirely a one way trust exercise - based on the tuner's reputation. We ship an expensive piece of electronics, effectively disabling our vehicles, (potentially for weeks should something go wrong) install it in to our cars, and start the ignition trusting that the work was done correctly. How Sales, Technicians, and Customer Service handle this process is of paramount importance and a forward leading indicator of how much trust we should extend in the future. It is unreasonable to put the burden of proof on the customer if such wasn't explicitly stated at the onset.
I would suggest to OE not treat this as an IT case, pull up from the bits and bytes, and treat this as a customer satisfaction issue. There are many ways (commercially) to make this right. The longer this goes on the more permanent the damage will be.
I would suggest to OE not treat this as an IT case, pull up from the bits and bytes, and treat this as a customer satisfaction issue. There are many ways (commercially) to make this right. The longer this goes on the more permanent the damage will be.
Yeah Fair enough, many ways to achieve an outcome..
IME better resolutions resutled in direct comms with direct conversations followed up with written minutes to prevent confusion. This is ALWAYS in the case of a reasonable, respectful and caring vendour and customer working amicably to resolve. Of course not every scenario has the latter ..
Anyway looking forward to the technical solution and increased understanding it provides to all of us.
Cheers.
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Dinan Tune?
Used this thread recently in doing some research on finding an inexpensive tune to put on a C300. Since it was helpful I thought I would share an email I received this morning from Dinan (BMW tuner) and apparently they are delving into the MB market as they just released a C300 tune today. Looks similar to the Burger one but a bit cheaper ($300) and has bluetooth. Nothing monumental in gains but still respectable for the price tag. Another one to add to the fray.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
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Used this thread recently in doing some research on finding an inexpensive tune to put on a C300. Since it was helpful I thought I would share an email I received this morning from Dinan (BMW tuner) and apparently they are delving into the MB market as they just released a C300 tune today. Looks similar to the Burger one but a bit cheaper ($300) and has bluetooth. Nothing monumental in gains but still respectable for the price tag. Another one to add to the fray.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
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Used this thread recently in doing some research on finding an inexpensive tune to put on a C300. Since it was helpful I thought I would share an email I received this morning from Dinan (BMW tuner) and apparently they are delving into the MB market as they just released a C300 tune today. Looks similar to the Burger one but a bit cheaper ($300) and has bluetooth. Nothing monumental in gains but still respectable for the price tag. Another one to add to the fray.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
