General consensus on current C300 W205 tunes?
08-26-2016, 06:20 PM
#76
Used this thread recently in doing some research on finding an inexpensive tune to put on a C300. Since it was helpful I thought I would share an email I received this morning from Dinan (BMW tuner) and apparently they are delving into the MB market as they just released a C300 tune today. Looks similar to the Burger one but a bit cheaper ($300) and has bluetooth. Nothing monumental in gains but still respectable for the price tag. Another one to add to the fray.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
08-26-2016, 07:28 PM
#77
According to dyno (see pictures in webpage) 234hp measured without DINANTRONICS and 258hp using DINANTRONICS.
Is that in whp?
if is, is ~ 25whp gain, is around the same using BMS Stage1.
Is that in whp?
if is, is ~ 25whp gain, is around the same using BMS Stage1.
Used this thread recently in doing some research on finding an inexpensive tune to put on a C300. Since it was helpful I thought I would share an email I received this morning from Dinan (BMW tuner) and apparently they are delving into the MB market as they just released a C300 tune today. Looks similar to the Burger one but a bit cheaper ($300) and has bluetooth. Nothing monumental in gains but still respectable for the price tag. Another one to add to the fray.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
http://www.dinancars.com/product/d44...?series=&mid=/
May try it out since the wifes C300 could use a little fun mode for when I drive it. Always have had good experiences with the Dinan parts I've had on my BMW's, even if my wallet isn't happy about it.
08-27-2016, 11:30 AM
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I'm interested to see how the dinan unit performs. Seems easy enough to install and is cheap enough for what you get in return. Plus dinan name has pretty solid reputation
08-27-2016, 12:25 PM
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Only $299 for a Dinan piggy-back which delivers an increase of up to 30 HP, 40 lb-ft of torque...wow, now that's an awesome bang for the buck.
I hope Dinan comes out with something similar for the C450.
I hope Dinan comes out with something similar for the C450.
08-28-2016, 12:49 AM
#81
Went by my BMW shop (Dinan dealer) earlier this afternoon for some maintenance on my car and while I was there, ordered one. They mentioned it to me and by impulse I just did it. For $300, I guess thats what they are banking on. Ill pick it up and get it installed early this week. Maybe I'll do an impromptu experiment and just put it on while the wife isn't paying attention and see if she says anything when she drives it.
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08-29-2016, 10:26 AM
#82
yep I saw this as well. Dinan is very well respected on the BMW side. Good to see they are branching out, top quality stuff they have. great price ! let us know how you like it
08-30-2016, 09:55 PM
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yes IF the dealer installs new Engine ECU software it will overwrite the performance tune.
Many offer a limitied number of reflashes for the cost of postage etc, but certainly worth checking before hand.
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08-30-2016, 10:03 PM
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OE Tune does free re-tunes if it gets cleared by dealer or if you require factory tune. you just cover the shipping cost.
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08-31-2016, 10:38 AM
#86
Picked up the Dinan unit yesterday on the way home from work and installed it on the car in about 5 minutes. Spent more time trying to figure out where I wanted to ZIP tie the thing then the actual install which probably took all of 30 seconds.
Proceeded to install the Android app on an old phone as the iPhone app isnt out yet apparently. Went on a short cruise with it and played with some of the settings which was kind of fun. The app is a bit clunky but it serves its purpose and the boost gauge feature is a nice little addition although I don't see myself really ever using it. It's a cool little add though. Its obvious the thing is giving more power and I caught myself smirking a bit as I laid into the throttle. I didn't notice any negatives to the actual driving experience, a la jerkiness or throttle/turbo lag, but then again my time putzing around was pretty minimal. I can say though that it was just more fun. Probably my imagination but the throttle response seems to be significantly more responsive as well. Definitely feel more at home in the wife's car with the extra power with the Dinan unit.
I didn't tell the wife about installing the thing so I will see if she says anything when I see her again tonight... left it in the max setting for maximum potential enjoyment. She tends to complain about my cars so its a bit of a blind test to see if she just likes *****ing about me spending money or if she actually is that sensitive/afraid of more power.
All in all I can't complain and I can say I definitely feel it was worth the cheap cost of entry. Would recommend as an alternative to what already is out there. Makes the Merc enjoyable for me and I suppose that is all that matters. My only real gripe is the lack of the iOS app from a convenience stand point but if its in the pipeline I suppose that's just me nit picking.
Proceeded to install the Android app on an old phone as the iPhone app isnt out yet apparently. Went on a short cruise with it and played with some of the settings which was kind of fun. The app is a bit clunky but it serves its purpose and the boost gauge feature is a nice little addition although I don't see myself really ever using it. It's a cool little add though. Its obvious the thing is giving more power and I caught myself smirking a bit as I laid into the throttle. I didn't notice any negatives to the actual driving experience, a la jerkiness or throttle/turbo lag, but then again my time putzing around was pretty minimal. I can say though that it was just more fun. Probably my imagination but the throttle response seems to be significantly more responsive as well. Definitely feel more at home in the wife's car with the extra power with the Dinan unit.
I didn't tell the wife about installing the thing so I will see if she says anything when I see her again tonight... left it in the max setting for maximum potential enjoyment. She tends to complain about my cars so its a bit of a blind test to see if she just likes *****ing about me spending money or if she actually is that sensitive/afraid of more power.
All in all I can't complain and I can say I definitely feel it was worth the cheap cost of entry. Would recommend as an alternative to what already is out there. Makes the Merc enjoyable for me and I suppose that is all that matters. My only real gripe is the lack of the iOS app from a convenience stand point but if its in the pipeline I suppose that's just me nit picking.
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08-31-2016, 12:08 PM
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thanks for the report !. This is indeed good news , especially at the price point its being offered at. for the guys who are looking for a quick and easy modest increase in performance and not break the bank, sounds like this is what people have been looking for.
08-31-2016, 02:15 PM
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Picked up the Dinan unit yesterday on the way home from work and installed it on the car in about 5 minutes. Spent more time trying to figure out where I wanted to ZIP tie the thing then the actual install which probably took all of 30 seconds.
Proceeded to install the Android app on an old phone as the iPhone app isnt out yet apparently. Went on a short cruise with it and played with some of the settings which was kind of fun. The app is a bit clunky but it serves its purpose and the boost gauge feature is a nice little addition although I don't see myself really ever using it. It's a cool little add though. Its obvious the thing is giving more power and I caught myself smirking a bit as I laid into the throttle. I didn't notice any negatives to the actual driving experience, a la jerkiness or throttle/turbo lag, but then again my time putzing around was pretty minimal. I can say though that it was just more fun. Probably my imagination but the throttle response seems to be significantly more responsive as well. Definitely feel more at home in the wife's car with the extra power with the Dinan unit.
I didn't tell the wife about installing the thing so I will see if she says anything when I see her again tonight... left it in the max setting for maximum potential enjoyment. She tends to complain about my cars so its a bit of a blind test to see if she just likes *****ing about me spending money or if she actually is that sensitive/afraid of more power.
All in all I can't complain and I can say I definitely feel it was worth the cheap cost of entry. Would recommend as an alternative to what already is out there. Makes the Merc enjoyable for me and I suppose that is all that matters. My only real gripe is the lack of the iOS app from a convenience stand point but if its in the pipeline I suppose that's just me nit picking.
Proceeded to install the Android app on an old phone as the iPhone app isnt out yet apparently. Went on a short cruise with it and played with some of the settings which was kind of fun. The app is a bit clunky but it serves its purpose and the boost gauge feature is a nice little addition although I don't see myself really ever using it. It's a cool little add though. Its obvious the thing is giving more power and I caught myself smirking a bit as I laid into the throttle. I didn't notice any negatives to the actual driving experience, a la jerkiness or throttle/turbo lag, but then again my time putzing around was pretty minimal. I can say though that it was just more fun. Probably my imagination but the throttle response seems to be significantly more responsive as well. Definitely feel more at home in the wife's car with the extra power with the Dinan unit.
I didn't tell the wife about installing the thing so I will see if she says anything when I see her again tonight... left it in the max setting for maximum potential enjoyment. She tends to complain about my cars so its a bit of a blind test to see if she just likes *****ing about me spending money or if she actually is that sensitive/afraid of more power.
All in all I can't complain and I can say I definitely feel it was worth the cheap cost of entry. Would recommend as an alternative to what already is out there. Makes the Merc enjoyable for me and I suppose that is all that matters. My only real gripe is the lack of the iOS app from a convenience stand point but if its in the pipeline I suppose that's just me nit picking.
Thanks
08-31-2016, 03:13 PM
#89
I'm in the East Bay but ordered it through my local dealer (M-Service) over the weekend but they didn't stock it. I got a call from M Service to grab it from them on Tuesday afternoon though so it appears it shipped right away. Leads me to believe they have them in stock but you may want to call over to them to make sure.
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08-31-2016, 03:26 PM
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I'm in the East Bay but ordered it through my local dealer (M-Service) over the weekend but they didn't stock it. I got a call from M Service to grab it from them on Tuesday afternoon though so it appears it shipped right away. Leads me to believe they have them in stock but you may want to call over to them to make sure.
Thanks
08-31-2016, 06:11 PM
#91
Definitely feel the extra power. Its not earth shattering but for $300 I wasn't expecting a torque monster though either. For the cost I think its a no brainer. I look at it this way... OETuning flash is $800 for double the claimed power. So a little more then double the price for double the power but with the piggyback I have the convenience of taking off the box (again, about a 30 second process) before dealership visit or changing settings if I feel like it. I also don't have to worry about the flash tune being erased and having it put back on. Makes sense to me but this also isn't my main vehicle though either.
08-31-2016, 06:19 PM
#92
Definitely feel the extra power. Its not earth shattering but for $300 I wasn't expecting a torque monster though either. For the cost I think its a no brainer. I look at it this way... OETuning flash is $800 for double the claimed power. So a little more then double the price for double the power but with the piggyback I have the convenience of taking off the box (again, about a 30 second process) before dealership visit or changing settings if I feel like it. I also don't have to worry about the flash tune being erased and having it put back on. Makes sense to me but this also isn't my main vehicle though either.
09-01-2016, 11:21 AM
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My dad had a stage 2 Dinan tune on an '08 335xi. Was faster than an M3. Most outrageously fun tuned car I've ever driven. Would be fascinated to see how their C300 tune is.
09-01-2016, 11:26 AM
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I just left a message with a Jim at Dinan asking if they plan on coming out with a piggy-back tune for a C450...
...I'll let you guys know the outcome if Jim calls me back...
...I'll let you guys know the outcome if Jim calls me back...
09-01-2016, 12:17 PM
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my guess is they would do something if they have a car accessible to them ? Purely speculation and perhaps it's already under way ?
09-01-2016, 12:32 PM
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I also told Jim about this thread on MBWorld and asked if he could post their dyno results for the W205 C300.
09-01-2016, 07:13 PM
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So as someone who has never "tuned" my car before, I kind of wonder if there are potentially ill side effects to installing a "piggy back" tune like the Dinan chip? I mean long term effects - in 2 years will I discover engine or turbo problems, etc?
Note the disclaimer on Dinan's page:
WARRANTY: DINANTRONICS Sport does not carry the factory matching warranty that Dinan is known for. DINANTRONICS Sport's warranty is a 1 year product only warranty that does not cover consequential damages or labor reimbursement.
Note the disclaimer on Dinan's page:
WARRANTY: DINANTRONICS Sport does not carry the factory matching warranty that Dinan is known for. DINANTRONICS Sport's warranty is a 1 year product only warranty that does not cover consequential damages or labor reimbursement.
09-01-2016, 08:49 PM
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So as someone who has never "tuned" my car before, I kind of wonder if there are potentially ill side effects to installing a "piggy back" tune like the Dinan chip? I mean long term effects - in 2 years will I discover engine or turbo problems, etc?
Note the disclaimer on Dinan's page:
WARRANTY: DINANTRONICS Sport does not carry the factory matching warranty that Dinan is known for. DINANTRONICS Sport's warranty is a 1 year product only warranty that does not cover consequential damages or labor reimbursement.
Note the disclaimer on Dinan's page:
WARRANTY: DINANTRONICS Sport does not carry the factory matching warranty that Dinan is known for. DINANTRONICS Sport's warranty is a 1 year product only warranty that does not cover consequential damages or labor reimbursement.
as far as I know Dinan is the only company in the performance industry who offers a factory matching warranty on their bmw components , directly to the dealer and or consumer . That speaks volumes about their abilities and integrity . It's easy to understand why this inexpensive module wouldn't have that coverage . On the super high end Dinan stuff you are buying an insurance policy for your new 100k car!! No reason for a simple device such as this , but I'm certain the integrity of the product and engineering is still all Dinan
09-02-2016, 10:58 AM
#99
I haven't had a chance to drive the MB since I first did the install but I do have a minor update that made me smile.
I did the install and didn't tell the wife just to see if she said anything/noticed it. This was more of a personal experiment for myself then anything to see if the complaining about me doing power mods on other cars was based upon the actual mod and uncomfort she typically complains about with the higher powered cars or just the money I spend on the hobby. Well the answer is... shes a hypocrite and just doesn't like me to spend money. In short, shes enjoying it and approves, even if it is just because she got called out. The real question is how do I parlay this into letting her have her guard down so I can do more fun stuff...
I did the install and didn't tell the wife just to see if she said anything/noticed it. This was more of a personal experiment for myself then anything to see if the complaining about me doing power mods on other cars was based upon the actual mod and uncomfort she typically complains about with the higher powered cars or just the money I spend on the hobby. Well the answer is... shes a hypocrite and just doesn't like me to spend money. In short, shes enjoying it and approves, even if it is just because she got called out. The real question is how do I parlay this into letting her have her guard down so I can do more fun stuff...
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09-02-2016, 11:03 AM
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So as someone who has never "tuned" my car before, I kind of wonder if there are potentially ill side effects to installing a "piggy back" tune like the Dinan chip? I mean long term effects - in 2 years will I discover engine or turbo problems, etc?
Note the disclaimer on Dinan's page:
WARRANTY: DINANTRONICS Sport does not carry the factory matching warranty that Dinan is known for. DINANTRONICS Sport's warranty is a 1 year product only warranty that does not cover consequential damages or labor reimbursement.
Note the disclaimer on Dinan's page:
WARRANTY: DINANTRONICS Sport does not carry the factory matching warranty that Dinan is known for. DINANTRONICS Sport's warranty is a 1 year product only warranty that does not cover consequential damages or labor reimbursement.
