Tell that to Sir Mix-a-Lot

 

I totally agree, but I wasn't talking about an actual power increase. With a less restrictive air filter, I experienced an improvement in engine response...as in less hesitation.

 

I have heard that some people believe in Santa Claus as well.

 

Re: believing in Santa, maybe so does the MB marketing team, based on last year's holiday ad ?


But seriously, while I totally acknowledge and respect the experience of other thread posters who have been under MB hoods/bonnets for decades, and the comments you have posted, isn't K&N making a decent case that incidents of oil build-up on the MAF sensor aren't related to the treatment on their filters: http://www.knfilters.com/news/news.aspx?id=422 ?

Out of the box, at least. The oil individual consumers add to the filter after washing it may be a different matter: what if you get a few folks who add more than the recommended amount of oil, thinking more is always better? or if the consumer-added oil treatment isn't given sufficient time to dry before re-installation? Could these explain the handful of sensor problems?

 

The responsibility of over oiling is clearly with those other than OEM.
People do things without due consideration.


Point is an oiled filter is unnecessary.


Additionally, removing the intake all together will produce no discernible difference in engine response, ie the rate at which the rpm rise relative to time and accelerator pedal position. So expecting a filter medium to effect a discernible difference is incorrect.


HOWEVER, perception and belief are powerful factors.. so those that hear a little more or different noise will interpret this as a change in xyz... it is only a change in sound however..


Point is get them if you aren't after optimal filtration and want a small change in noise (panel change), a cone or pod with removal of intake system may provide more noise (and often case decrease performance measurably due to the loss of CIA...). That's all fine but at least admit its for the noise / or cos you felt like it... they are perfectly good reasons to do something on your own vehicle....

 

LOL!!!
36-24-36...Only if she's 5'3".

 

From the fact that by its (the panel element) removal there is no subsequent increase in power or torque.
Hence the power gains need to be sourced from either greater power production or loss removal....

What at you experienced was potentially increased noise at a given rpm which you interpret as increased "response". In fact the rate of rpm increase (or response) remains unchanged.

But increased intake noise can be fun so it's cool you got the items and that you enjoy them.

 

First independent clip I found on Youtube.

 

Agree...after switching out to K&N air filters, I don't feel I've gained any power.

I totally disagree. I didn't realize an increase in "noise" per sey, but what I did realize was less engine hesitation when hitting the gas. Case in point, WOT when merging onto the highway. I've experienced the same result in my past vehicles plus a small gain in gas mileage when switching to a less restrictive air filter...either K&N or a dry AEM.

Now when it comes to just a cone filter and intake tube that replaces the stock air box...what I call a hot air intake because air is drawn in from the hot engine compartment (heat shields do nothing), well I don't believe in those and never have. Those are definitely just noise makers.

 

If you watch the entire clip youll see that they tested stock air box replacement filters as well.

 

...which tested for total power gain only, not engine response.

Do you know the difference between power gain and engine response?

 

I'll be most likely taking the plunge if they are to ship it over here.

I just want to get it for the noise it makes

Hoping to pair this with my weistec dp and tune.

 

most likely much more than you do.

 

Doesn't sound like you do...and you say you worked on cars for 16 years?

 

Throttle response will not be affected in any measureable way by the changing of the filter element..


Take the filter out all together and you still won't get a change... i.e. an increase in rate of rpm gain with pedal depression over a time base...


IF you want that a pedal commander or adjusted factory software will certainly make a noticeable difference as the signal from the pedal is amplified (non linearly).


I am about done on this topic though.


All the best.

 

Yeah, go figure, and not only that I have also in spite of my lack of motor knowledge and skills built and tuned two race cars with standalone ECU systems, those experiences have by far exceeded my accumulated knowledge from my 16 years at Daimler.
Hence my interest in fake *** "tuning" products being scammed onto the average joe.

 

Now this is just my humble opinion and all, but I feel that the noise you want to covet is the one coming OUT of the engine, not the one going IN

But pairing it with those other bits should make for a nice little ride with all kinds of decent noises... I'm curious though, what kind of power are people pushing out of the stock turbo on the c300's?


And on a serious suggestion based on my experience of modding 4 bangers to 400+hp: Make sure whatever intake you run has a proper heatshield. Or route it in a way that it gets a substantial flow of fresh, cool air. You do NOT want an intake that is pulling in stagnant engine bay air. In other words: No one has ever had success increasing power with a 'Hot air intake'

 

Finally got back home and ordered it last night. Hopefully gets here soon. Will report back once I get it.

 

update ?

 

It is still on its way here to China.

As of yesterday, it left SFO airport. I estimate it will get here in another week or so. Hopefully customs won't give me issues. They aren't very car friendly usually.

 

Just got my intake today. If I have time, I'll install it today and make a new thread (with a better title )

 

Congrats. Do you plan to do a before and after audio recording? Would be much appreciated!

 

I have no doubt it enhances the engine noise (for better or worse), but undoubtedly does zero for performance.

But I'm a ricer at heart, so would love to know what the sound is like after the install.

 

https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...00-glc300.html

There is a thread with my review already. You can hear it there.