Performance upgrades for C300 with 2l 4cyl?

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Jan 2, 2017 | 02:52 PM
  #1  
Hi!
I just bought a C300 on Saturday and want to know of any performance upgrades (chips, handling etc) that are available and tested? The car is quick already but I wanted to see if I could juice out a little more.
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Jan 2, 2017 | 04:22 PM
  #2  
Dinantronics boost controller
installed the dinan dinatronics boost controller two weeks ago, and it for sure gives the car a little extra kick. Can't go wrong with the price either

http://www.dinancars.com/product/d440-0034-dinantronics-sport-performance-tuner-for-mb-w204-20l-turbo-engines/
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Jan 3, 2017 | 03:59 PM
  #3  
yep, Dinan here also. easy install, price is right and it works.
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Jan 3, 2017 | 09:39 PM
  #4  
thanks
okay thank you I appreciate the responses. Will be ordering the tune soon.
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Feb 10, 2019 | 05:36 PM
  #5  
Quote: Hi!
I just bought a C300 on Saturday and want to know of any performance upgrades (chips, handling etc) that are available and tested? The car is quick already but I wanted to see if I could juice out a little more.
Definitely, but the Dinan boost controller makes very little difference and the app isn’t ready for prime time. The Burger Motorsports JB4 is probably what you’re looking for. It’s 4 plug and play connections vs 1 on the Dinan but it’s closer to full engine management vs the Dinan, which basically just under reports boost to the ECU, and the ECU increases boost to compensate.

I’ve had the Dinan Sportronic chip on both my C300 and my 430i, and the 430 now has the JB4. With the Dinan you’re never quite sure it’s doing anything other than making your wallet a little lighter. No such doubts with the JB4. It’ll scare the **** out of you the first time you let it off the chain.

http://www.burgertuning.com/mercedes_benz_W205_
C200_C250_C300_Stage1.html







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Feb 10, 2019 | 05:59 PM
  #6  
Jb4
Don’t waste your money on the jb4 for the c300

i just dropped over 750$ to buy a jb4 beta with the Bluetooth setup and it doesn’t make any more power than stock really

on the dyno it showed a 6hp increase over stock

even if it was 20-30hp you really can’t feel that much of a difference..the reason why it really doesn’t work (and this is probably the same for the Dinan piggyback) is that it just tricks the ecu into allowing a couple extra lbs of boost to sneak through ..but since the ecu isn’t aware of the boost I’m told that it will pull back the power/timing so it ends up not really making any more power ..I’m not sure of the exact details but Rob at AMR tried explaining it to me ..either way ..it doesn’t make any power ..so I just gave it away

the best bang for the buck is to have an ecu reprogram..not a piggyback

AMR makes handheld controllers that can get you an easy 40-50hp and for less money than the jb4

I ended up doing a big turbo upgrade (turbokits.com) with the armytrix valvetronic exhaust and Catless downpipe with an AEM meth injection kit ..all in that setup costs about 8-9k with tuning etc
but it still only gets you to 300hp at the wheels ..which is a lot better than the stock 190hp at the wheels stock

torque is almost double stock though so it pulls very hard ..still a ton of work to get to this point. This big turbo setup increases the boost from the 12-13lbs stock to a solid 25lbs

if you’re looking for power ..sell the c300 and a c450/43 and call it a day

just my $.02
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Feb 10, 2019 | 06:03 PM
  #7  
Do sprint boosters still exist? I'd try that.
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Feb 10, 2019 | 06:10 PM
  #8  
C:00
Quote: Do sprint boosters still exist? I'd try that.
I have a sprint booster on one of my other cars ..that’s all that does is decrease the peddle “lag” it makes the car feel more responsive but doesn’t increase power in any way
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Feb 10, 2019 | 06:47 PM
  #9  
Quote:
Don’t waste your money on the jb4 for the c300

i just dropped over 750$ to buy a jb4 beta with the Bluetooth setup and it doesn’t make any more power than stock really

on the dyno it showed a 6hp increase over stock

even if it was 20-30hp you really can’t feel that much of a difference..the reason why it really doesn’t work (and this is probably the same for the Dinan piggyback) is that it just tricks the ecu into allowing a couple extra lbs of boost to sneak through ..but since the ecu isn’t aware of the boost I’m told that it will pull back the power/timing so it ends up not really making any more power ..I’m not sure of the exact details but Rob at AMR tried explaining it to me ..either way ..it doesn’t make any power ..so I just gave it away

the best bang for the buck is to have an ecu reprogram..not a piggyback

AMR makes handheld controllers that can get you an easy 40-50hp and for less money than the jb4

I ended up doing a big turbo upgrade (turbokits.com) with the armytrix valvetronic exhaust and Catless downpipe with an AEM meth injection kit ..all in that setup costs about 8-9k with tuning etc
but it still only gets you to 300hp at the wheels ..which is a lot better than the stock 190hp at the wheels stock

torque is almost double stock though so it pulls very hard ..still a ton of work to get to this point. This big turbo setup increases the boost from the 12-13lbs stock to a solid 25lbs

if you’re looking for power ..sell the c300 and a c450/43 and call it a day

just my $.02
Damn, $750 and 6hp? I don't know if BMS would be around long if was selling horsepower at $125 per horse.

I’m guessing the OP isn’t up for bolt-on stuff and an ECU flash, just looking for a little more fun than stock.

On the BMW at least the JB4 is able to manage a f-ton of parameters. Here's a log file. I don't know what half that stuff means but clearly it's more than just a boost controller. On this run I think I was on Map 5 and running 40% E85.


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Feb 10, 2019 | 10:25 PM
  #10  
I got a RaceChip Gts Black for sale. Selling it for 400$ it’s unopened
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Feb 11, 2019 | 06:31 PM
  #11  
Quote:
i just dropped over 750$ to buy a jb4 beta with the Bluetooth setup and it doesn’t make any more power than stock really

on the dyno it showed a 6hp increase over stock

even if it was 20-30hp you really can’t feel that much of a difference..the reason why it really doesn’t work (and this is probably the same for the Dinan piggyback) is that it just tricks the ecu into allowing a couple extra lbs of boost to sneak through ..but since the ecu isn’t aware of the boost I’m told that it will pull back the power/timing so it ends up not really making any more power ..I’m not sure of the exact details but Rob at AMR tried explaining it to me ..either way ..it doesn’t make any power ..so I just gave it away

the best bang for the buck is to have an ecu reprogram..not a piggyback


Sorry to hear about your experience, but this is not typical for our customers. We have hundreds of happy customers out there with our stage 1 and JB4 tuners on the C300 platform. I hope you sent our support staff datalogs to review so we could look them over before moving on.

For most customers on pump gas or mild ethanol mixtures the JB4 is the way to go as for about half the price of a flash handheld you get similar gains and the tuner is not VIN locked and can be resold later. For those of you looking to do turbo upgrades and beyond, the JB4 can still be used to do custom tuning over a flash map if necessary as well, plus all of the JB4's datalogging features, etc.
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Feb 12, 2019 | 12:01 AM
  #12  
Not to mention kissing any warranty and the resale value goodbye with the ECU flash, turbo and catless downpipe. Did BMS sell Beta JB4s for $750 for the w205? Aren’t Betas usually given away as a way to field test?
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Nov 13, 2019 | 09:54 AM
  #13  
please advise if you still have it? i might be interested?
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I got a RaceChip Gts Black for sale. Selling it for 400$ it’s unopened

please advise if you still have it? i might be interested
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Nov 13, 2019 | 11:10 AM
  #14  
Quote: please advise if you still have it? i might be interested

if I didn’t already have a Racechip on mine I’d get it , Works great !
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Nov 13, 2019 | 08:28 PM
  #15  
Quote:
Don’t waste your money on the jb4 for the c300

i just dropped over 750$ to buy a jb4 beta with the Bluetooth setup and it doesn’t make any more power than stock really

on the dyno it showed a 6hp increase over stock

even if it was 20-30hp you really can’t feel that much of a difference..the reason why it really doesn’t work (and this is probably the same for the Dinan piggyback) is that it just tricks the ecu into allowing a couple extra lbs of boost to sneak through ..but since the ecu isn’t aware of the boost I’m told that it will pull back the power/timing so it ends up not really making any more power ..I’m not sure of the exact details but Rob at AMR tried explaining it to me ..either way ..it doesn’t make any power ..so I just gave it away

the best bang for the buck is to have an ecu reprogram..not a piggyback

AMR makes handheld controllers that can get you an easy 40-50hp and for less money than the jb4

I ended up doing a big turbo upgrade (turbokits.com) with the armytrix valvetronic exhaust and Catless downpipe with an AEM meth injection kit ..all in that setup costs about 8-9k with tuning etc
but it still only gets you to 300hp at the wheels ..which is a lot better than the stock 190hp at the wheels stock

torque is almost double stock though so it pulls very hard ..still a ton of work to get to this point. This big turbo setup increases the boost from the 12-13lbs stock to a solid 25lbs

if you’re looking for power ..sell the c300 and a c450/43 and call it a day

just my $.02
You're wrong. There are timeslips to prove it.
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Nov 14, 2019 | 05:08 AM
  #16  
Brabus Power Box
Hi, I am based in Lebanon and my car is German. I installed Brabus Power Box on my Car. Www.brabus.com. I have to say I felt enormous change in its responsiveness, aggressivity and power. Its not cheap but its worth it. I also installed Armytrix exhaust sytem with its down pipe. You need to contact your local Brabus dealer for the price as for some reason they don't mention it online. My Brabus dealer installed it for free. Now I am going for Racechip Pedal Box XLR (please see attached picture), a friend of mine installed it. He realized a great addition in throtle response.
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Jul 14, 2020 | 11:15 PM
  #17  
nvm wrong page delete
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Mar 25, 2023 | 08:42 PM
  #18  
One thing I will say about Burger is that their customer service is top notch. If a unit is under performing, definitely reach out, and they will work with you. I don’t have first hand experience with the JB4 on my C300, but had one on a Giulia Ti, and then my Giulia Quadrifoglio. The Ti dropped .3 0-60, and the Quad dropped .2 0-60. Obviously different platforms will respond differently though.
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