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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 09:05 AM
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Can some one post working link when I click the link on the way thread I am getting " Sorry the item not available right now" is it same for every one??
This is the store I purchased from (there are many sellers with the same item on Aliexpress)

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 09:13 AM
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my car is 2019 w205 64 colours
i confirmed with them the model
i cant find a place to plug this extra 4 pins
Can you post a picture of the entire cable with all connectors visible?

Sometimes they send you the DIY version (not plug and play) and you need to solder wires together.

My car only had 3 colors and they sent me a simple plug and play set with tiny black boxes on the harness. (like below)




I suspect for 64 colors you would need at least 4 - 5 wires on the connector. Power, ground, red, green, blue?

You can follow the OEM wire from door trim ambient light to the controller (on the door) to find the correct plug.

NOTE. Each OEM connector has a specific shape and should be made to fit the plugs on the harness they sent you.

Does your cable have black boxes attached?

Also, Did you contact the seller?

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by benzdude
This is the store I purchased from (there are many sellers with the same item on Aliexpress)

New link:
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...029944382.html
Thanks I didn't won't to get it from other and find out the speaker is not good or other issues is better to get from where you'd got it from
Thanks
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by benzdude
Can you post a picture of the entire cable with all connectors visible?

Sometimes they send you the DIY version (not plug and play) and you need to solder wires together.

My car only had 3 colors and they sent me a simple plug and play set with tiny black boxes on the harness. (like below)




I suspect for 64 colors you would need at least 4 - 5 wires on the connector. Power, ground, red, green, blue?

You can follow the OEM wire from door trim ambient light to the controller (on the door) to find the correct plug.

NOTE. Each OEM connector has a specific shape and should be made to fit the plugs on the harness they sent you.

Does your cable have black boxes attached?

Also, Did you contact the seller?
every thing fit exept the 4 pins i translater what it say on the 4 pin plug tag it say tweeter lights
i followed the oem connected to main plug that wont fit this plug and followed the ambian light end of the wire connected to small chips with led u dont wana play with that

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:24 AM
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every thing fit exept the 4 pins i translater what it say on the 4 pin plug tag it say tweeter lights
i followed the oem connected to main plug that wont fit this plug and followed the ambian light end of the wire connected to small chips with led u dont wana play with that
Wow, you got fuses on your harness? Nice! Did you check that the fuse is GOOD and not burnt?

Your harness looks solid. I just don't know if that extra plug is required or where it goes.


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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:33 AM
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Can you PLEASE separate ALL the wires. so I can properly see where they are coming from and where they go to?

Some wires are outside the photo and cannot be seen. No overlapping wires please.

(Also, Leave your hands out of the photo)

Does that black box have an extra port on it that may fit the extra 4 wire white connector???



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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:37 AM
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i checked fuse becouse speaker rotating and sound commong out i got another one wothout this 4 pins to try and connect same as u sir but still light is not comming
at the election he installed it many time but for 2018 not 2019 and he say it work
he say there is no electricity in the fuse but the fuse is ok
he say 2019 exclusive
have diffrent harness 2 pins r missing

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mabadr
i checked fuse becouse speaker rotating and sound commong out i got another one wothout this 4 pins to try and connect same as u sir but still light is not comming
at the election he installed it many time but for 2018 not 2019 and he say it work
but not in my car he checkes fuse now and its working

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:43 AM
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no that box is closed
he said fuse is ok but is not getting electricity from the oem is not giving 12v to the fuse
there is no power in the harness

[no QUOTE=benzdude;7775332] [/QUOTE]

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:48 AM
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no that box is closed

[no QUOTE=benzdude;7775332]
[/QUOTE]


Did you try BOTH speakers to see if one might be DEFECTIVE?

Also that black box looks like it only has one blue connector on either side. It must connect to the speaker body (at some point) but I can't tell because your wires are all OEVRLAPPING in the photo.

Please separate the wires or I can't help.
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mabadr
no that box is closed
he said fuse is ok but is not getting electricity from the oem is not giving 12v to the fuse
there is no power in the harness

[no QUOTE=benzdude;7775332]
[/QUOTE]


Did you try BOTH speakers to see if one might be DEFECTIVE?

Also that black box looks like it only has one blue connector on either side. It must connect to the speaker body (at some point) but I can't tell because your wires are all OEVRLAPPING in the photo.

Please separate the wires or I can't help.[/QUOTE]

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mabadr
no that box is closed
he said fuse is ok but is not getting electricity from the oem is not giving 12v to the fuse
there is no power in the harness

[no QUOTE=benzdude;7775332]
[/QUOTE]


I found this on Mercedes 64 color tweeter, maybe it can help you.

https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/....233538/page-2

http://www.gzcarphone.com/installati...ry-tweeter_n24

This is what his 64 color harness looks like (with wires separated properly)

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:03 AM
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I found this on Mercedes 64 color tweeter, maybe it can help you.

https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/....233538/page-2

http://www.gzcarphone.com/installati...ry-tweeter_n24

This is what his 64 color harness looks like (with wires separated properly)
[/QUOTE]

i got the model u just send same harness but still no power to light ambient ;(
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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Did you try BOTH speakers to see if one might be DEFECTIVE?

Also that black box looks like it only has one blue connector on either side. It must connect to the speaker body (at some point) but I can't tell because your wires are all OVERLAPPING in the photo.

Please separate the wires or I can't help.[/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]



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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:07 AM
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i got the model u just send same harness but still no power to light ambient ;(
WUT? I am NOT the seller. I didn't send you anything. Huh?

Sorry I can't help you.

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:10 AM
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WUT? I am NOT the seller. I didn't send you anything. Huh?
haha yeah pardon my english i meam same harness u sent i the picture that is just a white sticker
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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:17 AM
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haha yeah pardon my english i meam same harness u sent i the picture that is just a white sticker
Ok.

All I can suggest is unplug the BIG white connector with the black boxes and try BOTH boxes (left and right) on the SAME speaker. Then try it on the other speaker.

Sorry.

This mentions an extra white speaker connector.
http://chalinzhao.blogspot.com/2017/...burmester.html

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Old Jun 10, 2019 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mabadr
haha yeah pardon my english i meam same harness u sent i the picture that is just a white sticker

I just saw this photo. Looks like your Chinese blue connector doesn't match the 2019 W205 #6 blue connector wiring?

ASK THE SELLER.

Do you have a friend with a 2018 c-class?


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well no but electron told me it work with 2018 plug
i also was testing the same hardness as urs not getting light also it i think the wiring in my car is completely different
now but iam waiting another electrion maybe he can make a fabrication on the electric harness

i will let u know
yes problem harness doesnt match the pins no electricity going in there

Originally Posted by benzdude
I just saw this photo. Looks like your Chinese blue connector doesn't match the 2019 W205 #6 blue connector wiring?

ASK THE SELLER.

Do you have a friend with a 2018 c-class?

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Old Jun 12, 2019 | 03:23 PM
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now we got it to light by using jumper but the problem is 3 pins we cant get the right combination to get the right color's



QUOTE=mabadr;7775464]well no but electron told me it work with 2018 plug
i also was testing the same hardness as urs not getting light also it i think the wiring in my car is completely different
now but iam waiting another electrion maybe he can make a fabrication on the electric harness

i will let u know
yes problem harness doesnt match the pins no electricity going in there[/QUOTE]
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My driver side tweeter stopped rotating out after a couple weeks. I can't even hear the motor trying to turn or anything. Anyone have this happen to them? I haven't taken it apart again.

It still lights up and sound works just doesn't rotate out.
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Old Jun 13, 2019 | 05:41 AM
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My driver side tweeter stopped rotating out after a couple weeks. I can't even hear the motor trying to turn or anything. Anyone have this happen to them? I haven't taken it apart again.

It still lights up and sound works just doesn't rotate out.
I'd contact the seller and hear what he say...
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UPDATE.

While upgrading all of the speakers in my car I discovered that my aftermarket tweeters had their polarity different to the front door mids.

The mids popped positive in tests and tweeters popped negative.

Luckily the seller including a tweeter Y cable with an additional speaker connector that is wired opposite, so the fix was easy.

You can check your speaker polarity using a $10 FH-168 and speaker pop tone cd (included).

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UPDATE.

While upgrading all of the speakers in my car I discovered that my aftermarket tweeters had their polarity different to the front door mids.

The mids popped positive in tests and tweeters popped negative.

Luckily the seller including a tweeter Y cable with an additional speaker connector that is wired opposite, so the fix was easy.

You can check your speaker polarity using a $10 FH-168 and speaker pop tone cd (included).

https://www.amazon.com/AUTUT-Automot...dp/B07MQ55QHL/


And what’s the difference in sound? Asking for a friend lol
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And what’s the difference in sound? Asking for a friend lol
Sounds great.

The first step to installing an aftermarket DSP amp is to verify all speakers are wired correctly (positive/negative).

You disconnect the harness and send pop test tone directly from the harness to each speaker and test. They should all be in phase (+) if wired correctly.

Afterwards, the JL Audio Fix 82 calibration CD has phase test tones (someone saying "in phase", "out of phase"), that can be used to verify all connections with the new AMP and speakers installed.

You will actually hear the vocals/sound move location and feel a change in pressure in your ears when out of phase.

Track 02: Left / Right Channel Identification
Track 03: Phase Test (20 Hz - 200 Hz)
Track 04: Phase Test (200 Hz - 2 kHz)
Track 05: Phase Test (2 kHz - 20 kHz)
Track 06: Phase Test (full-range)

Here is sample in phase/out of phase test track.



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