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Old Feb 6, 2022 | 03:38 PM
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Remote FOB needs reset every day even with new battery

Hi,
Recently I have replaced my CR2025 remote battery as the W205 was reporting low battery.
Subsequent to that I am finding that i have to remove the remote battery and re-install it for it to become visible to the car.

It will immediately work, but again repeat with the same issue in a day or 2.

Any thoughts on what may be the cause?

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Old Feb 6, 2022 | 04:27 PM
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Perhaps try a different battery, I never have this issue. I too use CR2025 batteries on my 2017 but I heard you can use CR2032 for longer battery life and a tiny bit thicker in size of the cell.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Perhaps try a different battery, I never have this issue. I too use CR2025 batteries on my 2017 but I heard you can use CR2032 for longer battery life and a tiny bit thicker in size of the cell.
The difference is the thickness - 2025 is 2.5mm thick, 2032 is 3.2mm thick.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by matt.jessop
The difference is the thickness - 2025 is 2.5mm thick, 2032 is 3.2mm thick.
How come I heard the capacity of the cell is also bigger? Perhaps what I read wasn't true then, thanks for your reply.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
How come I heard the capacity of the cell is also bigger? Perhaps what I read wasn't true then, thanks for your reply.
Apologies, you are correct. CR2025 has roughly 170 mAh capacity, CR2032 has roughly 235 mAh.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by matt.jessop
Apologies, you are correct. CR2025 has roughly 170 mAh capacity, CR2032 has roughly 235 mAh.
no worries at all thanks for confirming for us all. Do you think you want to switch to CR2032? I am considering if it is worth it with the extra thickness for longer battery life which means the cover might stick out a little.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 12:14 PM
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Why are you putting a CR 2025 in the key fob? The key fob explicitly requires a CR 2032 battery.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Why are you putting a CR 2025 in the key fob? The key fob explicitly requires a CR 2032 battery.
Not sure, CR2025 is what my dealership puts in back when I had PPM here in Canada and so that is what I did. I don't recall seeing it specifically saying it is CR2032 but that is probably because I didn't actually check before putting it in.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Not sure, CR2025 is what my dealership puts in back when I had PPM here in Canada and so that is what I did. I don't recall seeing it specifically saying it is CR2032 but that is probably because I didn't actually check before putting it in.
Not sure if the PFL key fob type perhaps used a CR 2025, but it's pretty clear in the owners manual for the FL.




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Ah yeah, there it is. PFL uses a CR 2025. OP, what year is your car?


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Originally Posted by superswiss
Not sure if the PFL key fob type perhaps used a CR 2025, but it's pretty clear in the owners manual for the FL.

Interesting, let me grab my key and check, if there are no changes for the facelift I am surprised why my dealership puts CR2025 in it then. Does the new key fob consume more power or they design it so a CR2032 will fit better? I would think the new key fob actually consumes less since the key deactivates during inactivity but not sure when it is active it actually consumes more than the older key.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Ah yeah, there it is. PFL uses a CR 2025. OP, what year is your car?

Sorry I didn't see this post before my previous reply but ya I also confirmed the key itself says CR2025 on the cover.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 12:42 PM
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OP seems to have a 2016 I believe?
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
OP seems to have a 2016 I believe?
In that case I'd recommend trying a new battery. Unfortunately with batteries you never know how long they've been sitting on a shelf and whether they were always stored at proper temperatures. It's not unusual for new batteries to be bad already. I also believe the CR 2032 is more common than the CR 2025, so the latter might be sitting on shelves longer.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
In that case I'd recommend trying a new battery. Unfortunately with batteries you never know how long they've been sitting on a shelf and whether they were always stored at proper temperatures. It's not unusual for new batteries to be bad already. I also believe the CR 2032 is more common than the CR 2025, so the latter might be sitting on shelves longer.
Very true, I am confused why the vehicle didn't give OP an alert that the new battery is low though.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Very true, I am confused why the vehicle didn't give OP an alert that the new battery is low though.
It seems his key fob stops working within a day or two, so if the key fob no longer communicates with the car properly then there won't be a low battery warning. Now it could also be an electrical fault in the key fob because it was opened up to change the battery. Maybe a bad contact or something. If a new battery doesn't do the trick, I'd try to clean it out with some contact cleaner spray. There might be debris in it.
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Old Feb 7, 2022 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
It seems his key fob stops working within a day or two, so if the key fob no longer communicates with the car properly then there won't be a low battery warning. Now it could also be an electrical fault in the key fob because it was opened up to change the battery. Maybe a bad contact or something. If a new battery doesn't do the trick, I'd try to clean it out with some contact cleaner spray. There might be debris in it.
That explains it and good suggestion to clean the metal contacts.
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 08:37 AM
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Ah yeah, there it is. PFL uses a CR 2025. OP, what year is your car?

Mine is a Dec 2014 build, 2015 compliance
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
In that case I'd recommend trying a new battery. Unfortunately with batteries you never know how long they've been sitting on a shelf and whether they were always stored at proper temperatures. It's not unusual for new batteries to be bad already. I also believe the CR 2032 is more common than the CR 2025, so the latter might be sitting on shelves longer.
I popped in a new battery, as well as testing the CR2025 with a battery tester which reported it as full.
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Is the exact symptoms happening on your other key? If so it might have to do with the EIS module in your vehicle if I remembered what you call that. Usually it is just a software issue if not a hardware replacement might be necessary.
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Old Feb 16, 2022 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Is the exact symptoms happening on your other key? If so it might have to do with the EIS module in your vehicle if I remembered what you call that. Usually it is just a software issue if not a hardware replacement might be necessary.
Good point!

I tested both batteries in a tester (identical to this https://www.amazon.com.au/Dlyfull-Un.../dp/B07DPLD6KB ) and both batteries reported well into the GOOD. Infact they were only a notch different.

How ever the issue does not occur with the other FOB, so my next test is to swap batteries and rule out a FOB issue and hopefully close this off as a fickle battery problem.
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Originally Posted by GLO
Good point!

I tested both batteries in a tester (identical to this https://www.amazon.com.au/Dlyfull-Un.../dp/B07DPLD6KB ) and both batteries reported well into the GOOD. Infact they were only a notch different.

How ever the issue does not occur with the other FOB, so my next test is to swap batteries and rule out a FOB issue and hopefully close this off as a fickle battery problem.
Thanks for your update, please keep us posted of your further findings.
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