Serhan

And all these failing V4 engines are coming from Germany, including GLB engines We'll see how newer 2023 GLC engine will last.... GLK350 with V6 was the most reliable car that I had, even in comparison to Japanese brands...MB will switch fully to electric cars by 2030...

E55Greasemonkey

Yes, the GLK was a solid and reliable car!

Fury

<I>Sorry to hear man. It's really disappointing because the W205 with the 2.0 is a great car and the engine has good power for what it is. It's really a shame there are engineering/material issues plaguing the M274 with no relief from MB.</I><P>

To be fair, it was a couple of other issues that also were factors, but not like the engine issues previously discussed;

1) Panel between windshield and pano roof wearing (pretty badly) - see https://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w...oxidizing.html for an example. It started wearing at the 3 1/2 year mark.

2) Noisy ride - largely due to MOE tires, but was surprised at how much louder than my '13 C300. I know the A220s also use MOE and don't make use of as much sound isolation material - on a relatively smooth asphalt road the A220 is actually 1-2 dB better. On a rough road, the C300 is 4-6 dB better.

4) The '17 C300 was just such a different car than my '13. The '13 had that satisfying "clunk" when you closed any of the doors. That was not happening with the '17 C300.

Picked up a 2022 A220 with about 6900 miles on it. Can't wait to get the MOE tires off it! (haha)

Keith66

I totally agree about the MOE's... the greatest power of run-flats are their ability to ruin just about every car they're put on.

My new car has Goodyear F1 MOE's and they are horribly loud (like mud tires) and uncomfortable. I also miss the grip of Michelin PS's and can't wait to get rid of these run-flats and swap back to normal Michelins.

Congratulations on the new car dude! Enjoy.

W205C43PFL

Couldn't agree more, if that was MB's intention, it served them well

AzurSL

The door clunk was one of my favorite things about my W204. When I went from my 2010 C300 to my 2015, the first thing I noticed was the ”clunk” that was gone. It was like a bank vault, similar to MBs of old. It wasn’t tin canny like a Camry but definitely wasn’t what it used to be. Luckily for the refresh they reinforced the front doors just for the noise. I’m happy to say that the front doors on my 2020 C300 sound much better than my 2015 did (and feel a little heavier), although not quite to the level of the W204. For the W206 they went back to steel like the w204 as opposed to aluminum in the W205. It added weight and you can certainly feel it when opening the door (which I kinda like). The feel like the old w204 did and are as close to the old “clunk” as I think we will ever get.

W205C43PFL

I guess you gain some you lose some, steel is heavier than aluminum after all but then it is more solid feeling in that case.

qmciver

I have a 2016 W205 4Matic Sedan with the ubiquitous M274 2.0l and it’s been nearly Toyota reliable for me. I’m currently at 141,000 miles and I’m just now doing my first somewhat major repair. My car is in the shop for a failing oil pump and its second failed PCV valve (these valves crack over time). Only other repairs I’ve had to do were a A/C sensor & PCV valve at roughly 70k miles. I’m averaging about 530 miles per fill up, I plan to keep it until the wheels fall off.

AzurSL

That’s great to hear, sounds like you found a gem. If I were you, I too would be holding onto it until it couldn’t drive anymore. Here’s to many more miles!

W205C43PFL

That is a lot of miles and wish you many more.

Richie315

did you end up selling it cause I’m about ready too I just can’t enjoy it anymore after hearing all these things mine is 2017 with almost 80k on it

Keith66

Yes I did, the rest of the thread holds the story. I hated to part with my W205 and I miss it but no regrets at all. I believe I dodged a bullet.

It felt good to no longer worry that my engine could eat itself at any moment. Too bad because it's otherwise a great car.

Best of luck to you!

W205C43PFL

but then you got an E 43, enjoying a different beast altogether, E is a step above a C at the end of the day, the luxury, ride/comfort etc. shows in every way. Back then, C was known as a "fake" benz and to get a "real" benz, got to at least get an E.

I compared a C 43 to my family member's E 53, night and day. Feels so famiiliar yet so different.

Keith66

I had to step up to compensate for the mental anguish the M274 caused me, lol.

You are so right, everything seems so familiar coming from a W205, but the E has a much different driving experience, more "solid" may be the best way to describe it.

Dude, I'm happy very happy with the way things turned out for me and I'm glad I bailed when I did.

But I still miss my W205.

W205C43PFL

Fair enough : ), enjoy in good health.

For me in my case I personally prefer a smaller car (I am in the minority but I wish there was a car that was as small as a C-Class or around the size of an A and C but have the creature comforts of an E), I understand the majority prefers to have a bigger car if it has the creature comforts of an E, which is what the E is about.

I admit I am terrible with parking, so the smaller size of a C versus E helps a lot. That said, the introduction of rear wheel steering on newer MB such as the W214 solves that problem, it is then having to get used to the dramatic decrease in turning radius just like first learning how to use MBUX on newer MB, it is not hard to learn just takes time I guess. However, that also adds complexity that could otherwise break down.

The 48V mild-hybrid system on the E 53 (other than physical size) was the reason I shyed away from it. I heard about satisifed owners and also horror from owners, I get it, it is the forums, most who have problems voice out and few that have no problems comment. I am considering the CLE 53 however : ) hopefully whatever issues with the 48V system is worked out by then.

Please enjoy your car with the solid M276 without the complexity of the 48V.

Keith66

Thanks brother! The M276 is silk and I'm loving it.

I hear you about the parking. I don't have any issues, but if you did, the 360 camera with overhead view would definitely help. I must say, it does take considerably more room in my garage, but I enjoy the larger size. I grew up in the era of land yachts, so in comparison a W213 is almost small, lol. Overall though, It's really not that much bigger than a W205.

I totally agree that in car forums, some issues will appear worse than the reality because we are reading more about the number of failures without the greater number of successes to add to the perspective.

I have no worries about the 48v system at all, in fact, I wanted a 2020 E53 but I personally couldn't justify the difference in cost compared to a E43.

W205C43PFL

Yup, the E 53 I tested has all the cameras you can ask for and I still find it too big unfortunately. You know, size matters

Oh yes! That certainly helps! I should try that, might take a few years for me to start seeing big things small though : )

Well, I mean I agree that it is not THAT much bigger but the increase in size did made a difference that made it pretty much a deal breaker (at least to me).

Ah I see, curious and eager to see pricing of the CLE 53 when it arrives to our North American shores, I am thinking it will be way more expensive than the E 53 even, we will see.

It is pretty much the trend that cars are growing in length every generation. ie. E became the last S and C became the last E (at least length wise). It is the matter of getting used to but rear wheel steering helps for sure. ie. the S-Class (W223 specifically) with A-Class (W176) turning radius.

Cosworth2000

Nice new car man... E43 with EVERYTHING in it

Keith66

Thanks dude! I've owned a lot of cars in my life so far and this is the first one I've ever had that doesn't have a single blank button inside. I'm digging all the gizmos.

Keith66

After having the E43, I can now answer this open ended exhaust question:

The E43 does not have the Performance Exhaust option with the exhaust button on the RH console like the C63/C43. But it does have a E43 specific exhaust system. It has electronically controlled exhaust valves just like the PE exhaust option on other models but instead of being operated by the console button, the valves are opened when selecting Sport+.

Selecting Sport+, the exhaust gets considerably louder inside and out.

Mystery solved!

W205C43PFL

Perfect, so the ASR module will workl then?

Keith66

I don't think so, I think what I have is different. I need to crawl under and do an inventory of what's under there and how it's working.

W205C43PFL

I see.

383

I just got rid of a 2017 C300 due to the piston issue. I have a good friend who is a Mercedes tech and he said its a ticking time bomb. I only had 44,000 miles. I was a nervous wreck every time i drove it, took all the fun out of it.

Keith66

Sorry to hear but I completely understand, as I was in the exact same scenario and got tired of worrying about it. I got out before the potential bomb went off, luckily.