juicee63

This result is spread out but all were done on dynojet.
1. stock May 2007
2. Powerchip ECU June 2007
3. Evotech ECU Feb 2008(This also includes the VRP 530)
4. Run through the gears, with Evotech and Vrp 530

The first tune (powerchip) produced better Throttle response and felt better over stock, 1/4 mile times suffered and I had the ECU re-tuned and my times improved a little. (powerchip)

In November 2007 I sent my ECU to ADAM at EE. Oliver retuned the ECU , a dyno was not used. There was a small improvement in Trap in the 1/8th and 1/4 mile.

The VRP 530 package plus Evotech tune are #3 and 4


Please check the latest dyno results and let me know if the A/F is unsafe, car was on 93 octane. Let me know if anybody has had any problems with the Evotech ECU tun



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MB_Forever

Juicee, did your car dyno at 489 at the wheels

cicbenz

x2 That's about 570 at the crank !!!!!

juicee63

LOL..kinda , yeah but hit 430-440 on the other 4th gear only pulls. That run was to 182 mph and it had easy 200 but the dyno stops at 180.. The inertia allowed the power output as the wheels were already spinning so yeah it did hit that # but he said the 440 was really what she was making through the gear.


I did not cool her and she pulled 430-440 3 times, add 2% for the old model dynojet(according to op) his dyno is lower than newer models.. Car definately has no limiter
438-449 seems to be what he thought the range on a new dynojet would be.

Anybody in LA needing a Dyno DC Performance is tremendous value, 75.00 This is nextto 110 motoring, which I drove by, sorry guys for not stopping , great looking 63 sitting in front.

Vadim @ FD

Juicee: Your current run looks good, except the fuel curve looks stock.

I will pull some data tomorrow and post the graphs.

juicee63

great man, looks like the 530 package is as advertised.



funny she shifted out to 7th gear at 173 mph!! I definately make it to 200 if the dyno could take it. Just as I suspected from 90-130 the 63 is amazing then it shifts out, 4th gear definately=most power

490 at the wheels LOL!!! How the heck did that happen?

gripforce-cl65

440whp, that's one strong CLS63 with just about perfect AFR. I too got the ECU/TCU upgrade from Evotech and I'm little concerned about the tuning I got because all that drama going on with Evotech tuning. I've scheduled my dyno run on Fri. and I hope mine comes out as satisfying as yours. And yes, DC performance is a great place and they are very well known in viper nation . Dan and Lyle always take good care of my viper.

juicee63

THAY ARE AWESOME!!! I really got alot of tips from LYLE!! Those vipers were SIK

Mathmik

Nice!! 490rwhp

juicee63

The engine made it but it only happened once , the rest of the pulls were 430-450 RWHP and appx 390-400RWTQ. But yeah my video's and now the dyno have shown that the car has real pop from 90-130 FTMFW

SAMSSONZ

Im speechless. Its time for a rematch.

Thericker

sorry to burst the bubble it's called a rwhp spike..... surprised they didn't explain this simple fact to you juicee63 Your car didn't really make 489rwhp

It' s a glitch...Happens all the time.. Infact that entire last run is full of spikes, it should be like the rest of them, more flat..

juicee63

Chris explained it a little differently

The spikes are shift points as we ran to 7th hitting 182 mph

I will ask Chris to explain the "spike" to 489. He stated the car made it but it was due to the inertia produced from "running through the gears".

The spikes in the run are from shifting , the power produced was not a glitch , however spikes are not really a true indicator of usable peak hp as you see in the graph what goes up comes down. The car sweet spot is 90-135. and shifting 6800-7100. In previous dyno runs I think operators stopped short of peak, car must redline IMO.

Thericker

Sorry bro, they are Dyno Spikes... I've seen them hundereds of times... Your other runs w/flatter curves are your TRUE RWHP & RWTO that last run is all messed up...

Or do you actually believe an ECU tune on N/A 93 octane can garner, 83+ RWHP & 108 RWTO gainsNot unless you're using Turbos or nos
That U would get w/600/65 motors, Think logically, the other (3) Dynos show your aerage being muh lower, but thi 1 3rd i totally higher w/notable pikes...

Erveryone knows a good eu tune is worth @ bet 15-20 rwhp & rwto on N/A vehile
& please lets run my C6 410rwp 397 rwto on the frwy (advantage to you) & you should take me up on that?? my lower weight shouldnt matter at frwy speeds, are you down bro? Halfway? Laters

No hard feeling, just trying to get this straight.

joeybenz106

i would say have them redyno the car but only in 4th gear, dont let it up **** to 5th. that way you will get a true hp #

juicee63

we did three 4th gear pulls and they were all within 437-449 rwhp and 381-397 tq. I will re dyno in all the gears to see where the sweet spot is in each gear.

The car went from 408 to 440 and there is alot of room in the tune.

juicee63

I agree the spike is not a true peak reading but I want you to understand it is an actual reading not a glitch. The engine according to DC Performance made 489 but thety also told me not to use it because it was aided by the inertia of gear changes.

No biggie bro. Where the heck have you been????

Thericker

I've been around.... sorry they are pulling your leg, you didn't really make 489 rwhp, Dyno Spikes are not TRUE readings I had (1) that spiked to 503 rwhp! Does it look cool? Yes, did my C6 really make 503 rwhp No... she makes an average 410 rwhp...

juicee63

I was just happy to see a gain since my last dyno after the power chip netted 1 hp. There are alot of weird thing on the dyno that cannot be applied to the real world, no drag, no air flow, no friction..I was doing one eighty in 10 seconds LOL

Thericker

so true! & then we can compare different Dyno machines, settings etc.. it goes on & on...Glad you got a good result! deff shows on your 1/4

BenzoBoi

nice numbers!!!

Maserati GTS

Hey guys, I just picked up a 2007 CLS63 AMG and I also want to do some modding. Do you think the evo ECU tune is the best? What mods can I do to get the best bang for my buck? The car is supposed to have 507 hp, but at the wheels much less. I have heard that some people are making 470/480hp at the wheels with an ecu, headers, exhaust,pulley- but not sure how to go about this without spending a fortune. I am also told they don't make supercharger/turbo for the 6.3 amg. What other mods can be done? Anybody have experience? Thanks in advance. Want to make my car as fast as can be, since this is going to be the fastest car I own out the gate.

slownrusty

Very informative post. I have never heard of a dyno spike even though I have been to the dyno several times with many of my cars incl. my E55. Your post makes sense though especially given what is a "realistic power gain" from the OP given mods.

We tend to get caught up with big numbers these days and even amongst friends and forums the term 500whp seems like such a common number thrown out..when most guys have no clue how much power that truly is and how much money it takes to build that (most guys could not control a 120hp stock 1990 Miata around a track either..LOL).

Either way good post Ricker and good dyno pulls Juice. Good read.
Yasin

DAGREEKNYC

LONG tube headers + tune

BurnR8

Hey Guys....Nice numbers on the 63....I have had this print out sitting in my drawer for a while, but I guess my CLS55 is kind of a beast with the numbers I have. I did a Renntech Pulley and ECU and that is it.... I never really looked at some of the CLS numbers because I was just happy with my car, but now I think I am PRETTY DARN HAPPY. Sorry for the small attachment....first time I tried to upload anything.