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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Lowering Kits from AdvancedPerformance GOOD OR BAD? Your experiences please ...

Advanced Performance is right down the road from me and they make a three piece lowering kit that will lower my baby 1". Not a big deal, but the lower the better in my view. Trying to get info from anyone who bought and installed the kits.

The reason I'm creating a thread is, I called and spoke to them. Trying to find out if there was a video on how they work and how to install them. Guy on phone said no, that the instructions come with the package. So, I said how bout if I come by and get a look see how they work? He says fine that's OK and we can even install them for you. Mentioned some slight discount, and he said we can do an alignment at the same time. I said in my head "alignment?" but I thanked him and got all the particulars to put in my WAZE gps app.

I thought these lowering kits were reversible. That is, put em on and if you don't care for them you can just put the OEM links back on. Why would there be a need (if there is a need perhaps he just wanted to sell
me an alignment) to align my CLS55 AMG?

The suspension geometry of course would be slightly altered, but not much more than the already programmed lifting and lowering that takes place with speed and the lift button on the console. One inch is not out of that range, it just starts that range of automatic adjustments one inch lower than usual. Perhaps that is the reason...

Anyway, would be nice to learn from someone with hands on experience... Anyone out there done it?

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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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Are you talking about lowering links ?
And wheel alignment is always needed after installation of lowering links or lowering module.
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Old Mar 16, 2015 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GuestFromTampa
Are you talking about lowering links ?
And wheel alignment is always needed after installation of lowering links or lowering module.
Yes Sir,
That is what I am talking about. It looks like threaded rod with a locking nut and some kind of fitting on each end. Apparently two go on the front left and right and the third one is located near the differential...

Why is an alignment needed? I'd like to have my 2006 CLS55 AMG lower, but it is worrisome that it is necessary to alter the factory alignment. What is it about those links that makes that necessary.

I always heard that it was reversible ... Please educate me

and Thanks Popeye
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Old Mar 17, 2015 | 10:27 PM
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What you refer to when you are saying factory alignment ? You never had an alignment done since you purchased the car ?
Lowering gives you more negative camber and toe out. It will cause uneven tire wear .
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 04:05 AM
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Thumbs up OK, now I understand why the alignment...Thanks

Originally Posted by GuestFromTampa
What you refer to when you are saying factory alignment ? You never had an alignment done since you purchased the car ?
Lowering gives you more negative camber and toe out. It will cause uneven tire wear .
Appreciate the education. To be honest I don't know if this particular car has had an alignment. I bought it used in December 14, and it was so pristine it looked like it never had a wrench on it. Thanks for the information I couldn't conceive why that would be needed since these links merely fool the leveling and height sensors. But I guess it does get into the geometry of the wheels...

Thanks again...Popeye
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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If you are only looking for 1", find someone to lower your CLS through STAR. Its a laptop program that they hookup to your car and adjust the vehicles ride height. All of the vehicle height settings will still work normally but you will be about 1" lower.

I had mine done for $100 through a local shop, then another $100 for an alignement
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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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Now your talking Finance Mike..

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If you are only looking for 1", find someone to lower your CLS through STAR. Its a laptop program that they hookup to your car and adjust the vehicles ride height. All of the vehicle height settings will still work normally but you will be about 1" lower.

I had mine done for $100 through a local shop, then another $100 for an alignement
That sounds like the way to go Mike. I want to do an alignment anyway as when I get on uneven road at speed my baby tends to wander a bit. So, getting it lowered and aligned at the same time would be a winner...
I see you are in Florida, are you anywhere near Ocala. I have no clue about any shop here in horse country that would have a Star system...
Any suggestions on a shop up this way?

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Old Mar 18, 2015 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by popeyebedford
Appreciate the education. To be honest I don't know if this particular car has had an alignment. I bought it used in December 14, and it was so pristine it looked like it never had a wrench on it. Thanks for the information I couldn't conceive why that would be needed since these links merely fool the leveling and height sensors. But I guess it does get into the geometry of the wheels...

Thanks again...Popeye
When you raise or lower any vehicle, you will change the alignment. A car which was properly aligned to factory specs will now be out of spec. There will be some negative camber gained from going lower and you will definitely have your toe out of spec. Being too far toed in or out will lead to tire wear fairly quickly so any time you raise or lower a vehicle, you want to have an alignment done to bring the car back into the recommended factory specifications. Most of the time, Mercedes camber isn't adjustable without camber bolt kits (Mercedes sells them and they're cheap) but you can simply correct toe and be fine.

These cars are meant to be driven around at the standard ride height and that's the height you set the car to when you perform an alignment, the lifted ride height settings are mainly meant for low speed driving so the car will go out of spec when in those modes but it's not much of a concern. We've put Airmatic and ABC cars on our alignment rack and put them through the various ride height modes to show owners how much they affect their alignment settings, some people like to drive around with the car lifted and then wonder why their tires wear so quickly.
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Originally Posted by popeyebedford
I see you are in Florida, are you anywhere near Ocala. I have no clue about any shop here in horse country that would have a Star system...
Any suggestions on a shop up this way?

Thanks Popeye
Not much going on in Ocala. There's an indy shop, "European Car Clinic", on SS Blvd, 2 blocks off the square. They did basic service, etc. on my E55 without issue; I would imagine they have a STAR system.

For actual "work" on the car, I've always taken mine down to C2 Design in Tampa. Chris & his team can do anything you want/need/desire, although Tampa is a bit of a haul just to lower the car a bit.. you should incorporate ECU, pulley & headers. It will make it a different car.
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Thanks mate, ECC declines my request

Originally Posted by Andy0331
Not much going on in Ocala. There's an indy shop, "European Car Clinic", on SS Blvd, 2 blocks off the square. They did basic service, etc. on my E55 without issue; I would imagine they have a STAR system.

For actual "work" on the car, I've always taken mine down to C2 Design in Tampa. Chris & his team can do anything you want/need/desire, although Tampa is a bit of a haul just to lower the car a bit.. you should incorporate ECU, pulley & headers. It will make it a different car.
Thanks for the reply, European Car Clinic declined my request, although they do have the equipment. For liability reasons. It may eventually become clear that instead of being held hostage that investing in an SDS C4 would be a practical solution. $1200 bucks is a fair amount of moolah for me, but it's not necessarily a deal breaker...Thanks again...Popeye
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For $1200 you can get an ELM ( electronic lowering module ) which is much better
ProgRama has a sale right now $599 - http://www.programainc.com/product_d...aspx?sf=LCMR01

Also Renntech and Carlsson make reliable ELMs with good reputation.
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