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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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What tire pressures are you all using, and what size tires? Thanks
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon Winter
What tire pressures are you all using, and what size tires? Thanks
I set my preasures from stone cold and back off a few Lbs from Max load since its usually only myself and maybe one passanger most of the time.

31.5 front and 35 rear 225.40.18F and 255.35.18R
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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38/41 19's 265/30 rears, can't remember the fronts. Great tires though.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Did your 265's fit w/o any rubbing or modifications?

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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best tires out there. ever.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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It sounds like you guys all have had pretty good experiences with the PS2. Mine should be here within the week
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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I received 2 of my 4 PS2's today Thanks Michelin!
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon Winter
What tire pressures are you all using, and what size tires? Thanks
Just an FYI for everyone. Mercedes service had a service bulletin from headquarters advising them not to put Pilot Sport/2 on any AMG cars. I had them on the car and had Michelin call the dealer that I bought the tires from and had them put plain jane Pilot Sports on the car. The PS/2's were causing the car to pull. All was good. 14K miles later....time for some more.

* note this was over a year ago. so they may have fixed the problem by now.
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Just an FYI for everyone. Mercedes service had a service bulletin from headquarters advising them not to put Pilot Sport/2 on any AMG cars. I had them on the car and had Michelin call the dealer that I bought the tires from and had them put plain jane Pilot Sports on the car. The PS/2's were causing the car to pull. All was good. 14K miles later....time for some more.

* note this was over a year ago. so they may have fixed the problem by now.

From what I understand that was the VERY EARLY production and the problem was resolved sometime last summer
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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that's good news. So which tire as better PS or PS/2?
Sorry I wasn't trying to hijack the tread.

Tire pressure 32psi in front and 34psi in back?? I think.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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still shhhttyyy rainy here in HK , can't wait any longer to replace my Rosso with PS2 ( as said, I am at 12th month, done 15000km with the stocked Rosso )
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cliverman
that's good news. So which tire as better PS or PS/2?
Sorry I wasn't trying to hijack the tread.

Tire pressure 32psi in front and 34psi in back?? I think.
Bump your rears to 35

An old High School buddy works at Michelin product developement in S Carolina and says the drifting problem was actually with the Pilot Sport A/s(built for European roads without a center crown) and was not an issue with the PS2

Here is Michelin's "Official" Response:

"In North America, roads have a slight slope towards the outside of the road built in to evacuate water. Unchecked, this road slope or "road crown" would normally cause a vehicle to pull to the right. Vehicle and tire manufacturers design in a slight left hand pull for North American applications to account for road crown. This characteristic in the tire is known as Residual Aligning Torque.

In original equipment programs, tire manufacturers work with OEM's to achieve the perfect Residual Aligning Torque balance between the tire and vehicles. The OEM specifies the amount of left hand pull for the specific original equipment tire. Replacement tires, on the other hand, are designed to match a broad range of vehicles and therefore employ an "industry average" approach to drift. Depending on the specified drift for the original equipment tire, some vehicles may be more sensitive to alternate, replacement tire fitments. Some Mercedes customers experienced vehicle drift after mounting Pilot Sport A/S tires. This does not reflect an issue
with the tire or its manufacture but points to an application issue - one of matching tire drift to vehicle drift. To accommodate Mercedes customers, we made a very slight modification to the Pilot Sport A/S to increase the level of left pull and eliminate the sensation of drift due to the road crown.

You may view a Mercedes Star Bulletin on Mercedes STAR Tekinfo for a bulletin concerning this issue. This bulletin, states that the Pilot Sport A/S is now approved for Mercedes Vehicles.

If you have additional questions, you may call us at 1-800-847-3435
(toll-free) between
8:30AM and 6:00PM Eastern Time Monday through Friday to allow one of our Consumer Relations Representatives to assist you.

Michelin North America
Consumer Relations Department"

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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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Hong Kong has been under heavy rain storm in past days; so I did not want to upgrade the Rosso to PS/2 yet. Incidentally, I saw some PS/2 tires and I guess it is supposed to be ZR but not sure if the letter "Y" (stands for Heavy Load) does matter or not to be on C55 ? Or should I be getting something else ?

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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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F ukin rain in HK is pissing me off too.........
it rained in Taiwan....and now im in HK and its still raining!
cant take the CLS out for a spiN coz mom wont allow!
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by derrick_lui
F ukin rain in HK is pissing me off too.........
it rained in Taiwan....and now im in HK and its still raining!
cant take the CLS out for a spiN coz mom wont allow!
Yes...you read the news , serious landslides in HK , affected both the rich and both poor as they both by the side slope of maintains!
I did ride C55 under signal 'yellow rain' on pretty flooded roads, risky but very exciting. Amazing a rear drive car like C55 can perform so well on flooded roads...may be the low rev torque gives good grip even drive slow?
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Old Aug 20, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NORTH 44 C55
Bump your rears to 35

An old High School buddy works at Michelin product developement in S Carolina and says the drifting problem was actually with the Pilot Sport A/s(built for European roads without a center crown) and was not an issue with the PS2

Here is Michelin's "Official" Response:

"In North America, roads have a slight slope towards the outside of the road built in to evacuate water. Unchecked, this road slope or "road crown" would normally cause a vehicle to pull to the right. Vehicle and tire manufacturers design in a slight left hand pull for North American applications to account for road crown. This characteristic in the tire is known as Residual Aligning Torque.

In original equipment programs, tire manufacturers work with OEM's to achieve the perfect Residual Aligning Torque balance between the tire and vehicles. The OEM specifies the amount of left hand pull for the specific original equipment tire. Replacement tires, on the other hand, are designed to match a broad range of vehicles and therefore employ an "industry average" approach to drift. Depending on the specified drift for the original equipment tire, some vehicles may be more sensitive to alternate, replacement tire fitments. Some Mercedes customers experienced vehicle drift after mounting Pilot Sport A/S tires. This does not reflect an issue
with the tire or its manufacture but points to an application issue - one of matching tire drift to vehicle drift. To accommodate Mercedes customers, we made a very slight modification to the Pilot Sport A/S to increase the level of left pull and eliminate the sensation of drift due to the road crown.

You may view a Mercedes Star Bulletin on Mercedes STAR Tekinfo for a bulletin concerning this issue. This bulletin, states that the Pilot Sport A/S is now approved for Mercedes Vehicles.

If you have additional questions, you may call us at 1-800-847-3435
(toll-free) between
8:30AM and 6:00PM Eastern Time Monday through Friday to allow one of our Consumer Relations Representatives to assist you.

Michelin North America
Consumer Relations Department"
Thanks for clearing that up Barry. Sorry if I confused anyone. My bad.
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