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c55 engine same as e55/s55?

Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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c55 engine same as e55/s55?

is this the exact same engine as in 210 e55 and early 220 s55 amg (both non supercharged)??
if yes how come it produces more hp?

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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOnation
is this the exact same engine as in 210 e55 and early 220 s55 amg (both non supercharged)??
if yes how come it produces more hp?

pete

i believe so, with the exception of i think a different set of Cams
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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I would imagine different pistons for the compression ratio. The C55 has I think 11.5.1 which is high for a SC engine.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rockgt302
I would imagine different pistons for the compression ratio. The C55 has I think 11.5.1 which is high for a SC engine.
The C55 is not supercharged.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOnation
if yes how come it produces more hp?

pete
Why shouldnt it produce more hp? After market software tuners can remapp your ECu to produce more hp's, I'm sure MB can do the simple tweaking themselves!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Um, isn't the C55 engine N/A and E55 and S55 engines S/Ced?
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by newton22
Um, isn't the C55 engine N/A and E55 and S55 engines S/Ced?
He mentioned we was referring to the older versions of the E and S which were n/a.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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The following is taken from press material from Mercedes Benz when they launched the C55 in 2004. It explains in part what is "new" in the C55 engine and exhuast system.

"Engine design benefits from more than three decades of AMG motor racing
The eight-cylinder engine equipped with three-valve technology and a twin-ignition system is loaded with high technology straight from the race track. In designing the engine, the engineers at Mercedes-AMG GmbH were able to call on the deep knowledge gained over more than three decades of motor racing. Cast pistons made of aluminium are used in the cylinders. Specially developed oil-gun jets keep the pistons cooled even during peak stress. “Hand-crafted” camshafts, a newly developed double-flow induction-pressure unit and a specially tuned variable induction pipe ensure that the cylinders are optimally filled at all engine speeds and create the technical basis for the engine’s sporty character.

Newly developed AMG sport exhaust system with low emission levels
The totally redesigned exhaust system equipped with wider pipes and modified mufflers reduces the exhaust back pressure and promotes higher power and torque levels. Four ceramic catalytic converters teamed up with secondary air injection and AMG’s specially tuned engine management system ensure highly effective emission control. None of the emission limits in effect around the world pose any problem for the C 55 AMG. It even meets the EU4 exhaust standard scheduled to take effect in 2005. The AMG sport exhaust system with its two oval chrome-plated twin tailpipes serves as more than an eye-catcher at the back of the vehicle. Its unmistakable V8 sound also expresses the dynamic character of the new AMG V8 top model in the C-Class. "
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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The C55 is not supercharged.
Yes I know. I stated that the CR would be too high for a supercharger. MB would not use a blower with CR this high. Others that do use low boost PSI. Optimal CR for a blower is around 8.0.1-9.0.1 for high boost. I diddnt realize he was talking about the old N/A E's and S's.
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My understanding is that the C55 is naturally aspirated..I could be wrong..



Originally Posted by EVOnation
is this the exact same engine as in 210 e55 and early 220 s55 amg (both non supercharged)??
if yes how come it produces more hp?

pete
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rockgt302
Yes I know. I stated that the CR would be too high for a supercharger. MB would not use a blower with CR this high. Others that do use low boost PSI. Optimal CR for a blower is around 8.0.1-9.0.1 for high boost. I diddnt realize he was talking about the old N/A E's and S's.
OKay just making sure you knew. You wrote your response in a way that could be misinterpreted.
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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It irritates me to read what certain members keep posting! Please guys, read carefully and avoid ignorant posts!

The guy was referring to OLDER NATURALLY ASPIRATED AMG MODELS!!!!
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 12:25 PM
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from 98-2004 all of the M113 V8's are the same.In 2001 they raised the compression from 10.5:1 to 11.0:1.
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