Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
03-10-2006, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JR1
I know something that you don't know.......... 
Is it a Three Digit Number ...and Starts with a 3? From HPS?
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03-10-2006, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JR1
and I also know something that you know 
Ohhhh...Do Tell....Please
First Two Numbers a Three and a Two?
03-10-2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
What's going on? Am I still the record holder?
Highest HP?
Highest A/F?
Highest Miles on The HPS system?
03-10-2006, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK CUMMINS
That Depends on What RECORD you are holding on to?
Highest HP?
Highest A/F?
Highest Miles on The HPS system?
Highest HP?
Highest A/F?
Highest Miles on The HPS system?
03-11-2006, 12:41 AM
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2006 Weistec 3.0L SC'd C55, 2006 MaxPsi PT6466 Turbo'd M3, 2019 Maserati GTS , 2020Alfa Quadrifoglio
Originally Posted by AMGSC
Just got off the phone with Jesse. He needs just one more day of tuning. According to him, So far all check engine codes have been cleared. No longer running too rich, No longer MAF faults due to air overflow and no longer Tranny overload caused by the 8lb pulley. He said the hesitation problem dissapeared after tightening a loose ECU plug. I will dyno the car Friday at MechTech when I install the Boost, AFR and EGT guages. He says that the car feels like it is making about the same HP as before but is running smoother and tighter. I'll report on Drivability and HP on Friday evening. This is it guys and gals! 
03-11-2006, 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Well...Picked up the car last night at 6:00pm. Jesse left already so I got the keys from his partner at EuroRev. Surprisingly the car felt even stronger with the 8lb pulley removed, at least in the low rpms when I first step on it. It felt much more responsive and the lag/hesitation completely disappeared. I was quite pleasantly surprised. So far no check engine lights at all and the car idles low and smooth. On my way to work this morning I actually averaged 29.5 MPG!!!! over a 38 mile commute with 10 miles of street driving and 29 freeway miles. Not bad eh? I will soon post my dyno results after I get it to fit as an attachment.
03-11-2006, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MARK CUMMINS
That Depends on What RECORD you are holding on to?
Highest HP?
Highest A/F?
Highest Miles on The HPS system?
Highest HP?
Highest A/F?
Highest Miles on The HPS system?
03-11-2006, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownS500
Ahhh come on man what kinda report is this? What are your NUMBERS PLEASE????????
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03-11-2006, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BlownS500
Ahhh come on man what kinda report is this? What are your NUMBERS PLEASE????????
The numbers is posted !!!! Go back and read all the posts that posted today. I still can not believe the numbers !!! I can't wait for another dyno tomorrow.
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03-11-2006, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
I know the suspense is killing me also but I need to do another dyno elsewhere on Monday to confirm if the UNBELIEVABLE power is real!!
I swear every other post is-------Next week final results,wait this week, No this time is it! blah,blah,blahJust tell us what you have so far man, hatch this phuken egg already
No disrespect meant but this is beyond frustrating.....
03-11-2006, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Clk&Slk
The numbers is posted !!!! Go back and read all the posts that posted today. I still can not believe the numbers !!! I can't wait for another dyno tomorrow.
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03-11-2006, 01:53 AM
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It's no secret anymore!
Well...Looks like someone already spilled the beans! 
Here it is BUT remember I will dyno it again. Linh told me (probably through Jesse) that the car was ONLY road tuned and NOT WOT tuned so that power is expected to be low. Should I give them ANOTHER chance? with my car OR just call it quits and GO KLEEMANN S8? With Port and Polish I dream of making 600HP!!! It's going to cost a bit but it may be worth it compared to all this BS!!! 
Just so you all know, I did witness 3 consecutive pulls in the high 390's STD correction factor at MechTech WITH the 8lb pulley and downshifting problems because they did'nt put the car in dyno mode like Josh R did today. I did'nt ask for the files because I was waiting for Jesse's new tranny files from Europe which never came. I wonder if it would have made over 400 if they knew how to set the car in dyno mode. I guess it doesn't matter because I know it would be unsafe and caused all kinds of faults in my engine and tranny before. I really think I can't win either way unless I switch.
Here it is BUT remember I will dyno it again. Linh told me (probably through Jesse) that the car was ONLY road tuned and NOT WOT tuned so that power is expected to be low. Should I give them ANOTHER chance? with my car OR just call it quits and GO KLEEMANN S8? With Port and Polish I dream of making 600HP!!! It's going to cost a bit but it may be worth it compared to all this BS!!! Just so you all know, I did witness 3 consecutive pulls in the high 390's STD correction factor at MechTech WITH the 8lb pulley and downshifting problems because they did'nt put the car in dyno mode like Josh R did today. I did'nt ask for the files because I was waiting for Jesse's new tranny files from Europe which never came. I wonder if it would have made over 400 if they knew how to set the car in dyno mode. I guess it doesn't matter because I know it would be unsafe and caused all kinds of faults in my engine and tranny before. I really think I can't win either way unless I switch.
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03-11-2006, 03:07 AM
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2006 Weistec 3.0L SC'd C55, 2006 MaxPsi PT6466 Turbo'd M3, 2019 Maserati GTS , 2020Alfa Quadrifoglio
Originally Posted by Dan ****
$6800 Materials + $1500 Labor = $8300
Before: 293rwhp
After: 336rwhp
Increase: 43HP
Cost per HP: $193/HP (not including intangibles)
Before: 293rwhp
After: 336rwhp
Increase: 43HP
Cost per HP: $193/HP (not including intangibles)
Let's see that comes out to $ 21,850/43 = $508/HP.
03-11-2006, 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
...Should I give them ANOTHER chance? with my car OR just call it quits and GO KLEEMANN S8? With Port and Polish I dream of making 600HP!!! It's going to cost a bit but it may be worth it compared to all this BS!!!
I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but be realistic. Do you think a tuner like Kleeman would even want to touch your car after the crap it went through? If I were a tuner, I wouldn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole for fear of dealing with a problematic car. The fact that you dealt with HPS for so long makes it really difficult for another 3rd party (dealer or aftermarket tuner) to want to fix it. It's probably a lot harder for another tuner to fix the mess HPS and Jesse made now. Why get involved in this whole shady shim-sham deal? 
Sorry dude.
Keep dreaming. It will cost a grip.
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03-11-2006, 05:17 AM
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I don't quite get the whole "Jesse tuned the car for drivability #'s and not wide open throttle?"
Is Amgsc'er suposed to run two differnt ECU'S ???? 1)when he actually wants to drive the car and the 2nd)When he wants to take it to a Dyno to show higher #'s and loose all drivability????
Sorry this isn't looking good at all
We all and I'm sure Amgsc included, Were expecting these latest tuning results to net the highest drivable working dyno #'s.
These results are truely pathetic, where are MechTech's Dyno #'s and Chart?
I know this is where this all started w/bogus high#'s.... What the hell is going on? This has literally gone in a complete circle and were back to the ****y #'s we had a few weeks ago
Is Amgsc'er suposed to run two differnt ECU'S ???? 1)when he actually wants to drive the car and the 2nd)When he wants to take it to a Dyno to show higher #'s and loose all drivability????
Sorry this isn't looking good at all
We all and I'm sure Amgsc included, Were expecting these latest tuning results to net the highest drivable working dyno #'s.
These results are truely pathetic, where are MechTech's Dyno #'s and Chart?
I know this is where this all started w/bogus high#'s.... What the hell is going on? This has literally gone in a complete circle and were back to the ****y #'s we had a few weeks ago
03-11-2006, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Intangibles: Tax $530, Rental Car $900, Gas approx. $400, Mileage 1,500 miles x $.45 cents per mile = $675, Hours off from work: 30 hrs x $91/hr = $2745, Wear and Tear from dyno runs = 200 pulls x $5? = $1,000, Phone calls = $200, ECU replacement = $400, Voided Extended Warranty = $3,000, Uninstall & Check = $2,000, New bracket replacement = $200. Lost use of car during Auto Show: 3 weeks - Auto Insurance and Car Payment = $1500, Potential Engine or Tranny Damage: UNKOWN Aggravation = PRICELESS.
Let's see that comes out to $ 21,850/43 = $508/HP.
Let's see that comes out to $ 21,850/43 = $508/HP.
