Need Advice on Adding More Power to HPS SC
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Adam Follman, Vice president of sales for HPS, Filed a Civil Lawsuit in Orange County Against me Sean H. a PRIOR CUSTOMER (I purchased the Gen II HPS Supercharger last Aug in 2005) Adam Follman's lawsuit demanded $500,000.00 + for INSINUATING HE WAS A HOMOSEXUAL, & INSINUATING HE HAS A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE.
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Originally Posted by Thericker
Adam Follman, Vice president of sales for HPS, Filed a Civil Lawsuit in Orange County Against me Sean H. a PRIOR CUSTOMER (I purchased the Gen II HPS Supercharger last Aug in 2005) Adam Follman's lawsuit demanded ....
should I or shouldn't I ... I guess I am ... If you hadn't been such a douch bag to me and others in the past I might'a actually been like, "WTF; how the hell?" ... but no need ... 
Damn, Karma's got it in for you...
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Originally Posted by c55m8o
should I or shouldn't I ... I guess I am ... If you hadn't been such a douch bag to me and others in the past I might'a actually been like, "WTF; how the hell?" ... but no need ... Damn, Karma's got it in for you...
I didn't post this info to illicit sympathy in any way, But to merely keep all abreast of the current situation.
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If this thread was made into a movie, which actors would be the characters?
Yes, I know this is off topic, but this thread should be continued somehow. I'm certain that if somebody had an 'in' on the hollywood scene, Miramax or someone would make a movie out of this thread in a heartbeat! Something along the lines of 'Disclosure'. Lot's of drama and suspense, but of course, we'll need to cast a couple of females.
Reading the C32 / C55 forum is addictive enough, but THIS thread.........!!!! Wow!
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....we'll need to cast a couple of females...
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Originally Posted by Richard023
Hummm....The MP122H 2.0L is still in "beta form" and a long way off production as suggested by Jerry (Magnuson). Yes, it's got good potential and a 8% increase from the MP112 1.8L, bolt flange is not the same tho, I've seen the muscular blower on a 402 LS2.
HPS can keep installing bigger blowers they want, just be prepared!!!! Without proper design system engineering and suffcient R&D, this blower will break parts...hence "beta form".
HPS can keep installing bigger blowers they want, just be prepared!!!! Without proper design system engineering and suffcient R&D, this blower will break parts...hence "beta form".
I missed your sound advice. Yes I'm still trying to work things out with HPS so we don't have to go to the mat at the courthouse. I've called Magnusson yesterday and today and spoke to Bill Stiso? (Hot Rod Manager) and Dennis (Sales Manager). I will call the Chief engineer (Terry Reddicor) tomorrow but this blower has now been out in the commercial market for a while now. I want to buy it and have HPS mount their existing hardware on it. Will it work?What types of changes in hardware, plumbing, components would I need?
Do you also know of a good chip tuner that can reprogram the 2006 ECU's as well as the transmission control unit? Finally can you give me your sources once again for the upgraded heat exchanger, coolmist/aquamist methanol spray and upgraded high-flow heavy duty intercooler pump.
I really value your knowledge and expertise and would be grateful if you replied.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
I'm sure you remember me from our get-together in Corona months back.
On a non-related matter. How did you get your KW kit to fit a C55? I was told by Robert@Eurorev that KW does not make them for the C55. Can you give me the part number, where you bought them and how much? Kit + Installation? I put my Bilstein order on hold until I hear from you.
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Originally Posted by Richard023
HPS can keep installing bigger blowers they want, just be prepared!!!! Without proper design system engineering and suffcient R&D, this blower will break parts
Originally Posted by AMGSC
I want to buy it and have HPS mount their existing hardware on it.
Why don't you actually LISTEN to anyone's advice?
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Originally Posted by jgsx
Dear god! What is wrong with you AMGSC? The kit doesn't work well, and you think that putting on a 'bigger' supercharger will make things better?
Why don't you actually LISTEN to anyone's advice?
Why don't you actually LISTEN to anyone's advice?
If this custom kit works and is powerful, reliable and safe, then ALL MB motorsport enthusiast will win because the kit may still cost only half of the big name foriegn tuners kits like Kleemann, Renntech, Carlsson and Brabus. Then we can finally say that there is an AMERICAN maker of MB superchargers that can compete at a more reasonable price.
If HPS is not willing to go all the way, then I am willing to start a business venture with my two brothers (both Multi-Millionaires) to develop a Supercharger kit for MBs since this market is still underserved. The hardware and components can easily be fabricated in China for a 1/10th of the cost of the U.S and 1/15th of the cost in Europe and I will work a deal with Magnusson to put the MP122H in the kit which costs much less than Lysholm, Autorotor, Sprintex or IHI brand of twin-screws.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Look, They're looking for a new chip tuner, upgrading the entire cooling system and I'm exploring the new blower for the finishing touch JUST for my car. Accoding to Magnusson the cooling upgrades will make a HUGE difference in power. He also told me that because the MP122H is so efficient the boost should be lowered to only 5lbs/psi and still generate gobs of torque. With lower boost intake temperatures are also lower. Combined with upgraded cooling, I should expect to see 450rwhp without a doubt.
If this custom kit works and is powerful, reliable and safe, then ALL MB motorsport enthusiast will win because the kit may still cost only half of the big name foriegn tuners kits like Kleemann, Renntech, Carlsson and Brabus. Then we can finally say that there is an AMERICAN maker of MB superchargers that can compete at a more reasonable price.
If HPS is not willing to go all the way, then I am willing to start a business venture with my two brothers (both Multi-Millionaires) to develop a Supercharger kit for MBs since this market is still underserved. The hardware and components can easily be fabricated in China for a 1/10th of the cost of the U.S and 1/15th of the cost in Europe and I will work a deal with Magnusson to put the MP122H in the kit which costs much less than the Lysholms, Wipples or that Japanese brand of twin-screws.
If this custom kit works and is powerful, reliable and safe, then ALL MB motorsport enthusiast will win because the kit may still cost only half of the big name foriegn tuners kits like Kleemann, Renntech, Carlsson and Brabus. Then we can finally say that there is an AMERICAN maker of MB superchargers that can compete at a more reasonable price.
If HPS is not willing to go all the way, then I am willing to start a business venture with my two brothers (both Multi-Millionaires) to develop a Supercharger kit for MBs since this market is still underserved. The hardware and components can easily be fabricated in China for a 1/10th of the cost of the U.S and 1/15th of the cost in Europe and I will work a deal with Magnusson to put the MP122H in the kit which costs much less than the Lysholms, Wipples or that Japanese brand of twin-screws.
The established tuning companies you mentioned like Kleeman, Evosport, HOP, Brabus, Carlsson, and Renntech will not share their knowledge with you, or anyone else for that matter. Outsourcing fabrication of these components to China is just plain wrong, and makes me mad as hell. Of course it's cheaper for Chinese companies to make them when labor and materials are so damn cheap there. Factory workers in China live in crappy conditions; I've been to four factories in Southern China in the last year. Do not take a cookie cutter approach to tuning a Benz, it won't work.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Ling,
I'm sure you remember me from our get-together in Corona months back.
On a non-related matter. How did you get your KW kit to fit a C55? I was told by Robert@Eurorev that KW does not make them for the C55. Can you give me the part number, where you bought them and how much? Kit + Installation? I put my Bilstein order on hold until I hear from you.
Thanks,
I'm sure you remember me from our get-together in Corona months back.
On a non-related matter. How did you get your KW kit to fit a C55? I was told by Robert@Eurorev that KW does not make them for the C55. Can you give me the part number, where you bought them and how much? Kit + Installation? I put my Bilstein order on hold until I hear from you.
Thanks,
As for the KW's, there is no C55 kit, though there might be in the near future (don't hold your breath). I am currently running the C-class 6 cylinder kit. Neal also used that same kit with his car as well. According to KW there is not much of a weight difference between the V6 and V8 (~50lbs). Below is the pic of the part number. I will PM you the rest of the info.
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Originally Posted by AMGSC
Ling,
I'm sure you remember me from our get-together in Corona months back.
On a non-related matter. How did you get your KW kit to fit a C55? I was told by Robert@Eurorev that KW does not make them for the C55. Can you give me the part number, where you bought them and how much? Kit + Installation? I put my Bilstein order on hold until I hear from you.
Thanks,
I'm sure you remember me from our get-together in Corona months back.
On a non-related matter. How did you get your KW kit to fit a C55? I was told by Robert@Eurorev that KW does not make them for the C55. Can you give me the part number, where you bought them and how much? Kit + Installation? I put my Bilstein order on hold until I hear from you.
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
Please do enlighten us as to why.
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Originally Posted by RawAMGpower
The Bilstein's are more adjustable I've been told and from what I've heard are designed more for the C55. Plus I prefer the blue color of the pss9's over the yellow kw's. As to performance wise I have no idea since I don't think anyone has ever compared the two.
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Originally Posted by sdsilverm3
I, too, can't compare performance since I've never been on the Bilstein side of things. As far as adjustability goes I believe the Pss9 is 9-way adjustable while the KW v2 do not restrict you in regards to how many preset positions (infinitely adjustable until full firm/soft).
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Originally Posted by RawAMGpower
That my be true, but I believe there are other aspects that you can adjust on the pss9 that you can't on the KW. Neal told me the difference once. Maybe he can chime in here or someone else with more knowledge of this.
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Robert, good luck with your supercharger adventure and don't forget when you build your kit, make sure you turn that blower upside down. If i were you I could sue HPS, get my money back and build my own kit. I have a buddy that is a Maggie dealer and he would now what to do. He is also the guy that put in my CoolingMist.
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Originally Posted by E55Cent
Robert, good luck with your supercharger adventure and don't forget when you build your kit, make sure you turn that blower upside down. If i were you I could sue HPS, get my money back and build my own kit. I have a buddy that is a Maggie dealer and he would now what to do. He is also the guy that put in my CoolingMist.
I may have to go underground again for a while on disclosing anything about my kit as it relates to HPS. But through the help of some of you on this forum I have been able to hook up with a MAJOR player in the Chip tuning industry and they are not local. Think outside of this continent. Not China but Europe. Thats' all I can say for a while but MAN I'm excited and all MB enthusiasts should be like yourself because your kit may now get some real tuning!!!!!
BTW...Can you PM me with the contact information on the CoolMist? I'll buy you lunch.
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